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Alrighty, so up until two or three weeks ago, any burns I'd done had taken place at the university I attend, on a nice big open field. From the hundreds of people walking over the field, it was quite muddy and pretty much dead. Thus, I noticed no ill effects to the field that were caused by the spinning I was doing.
I'm now home for the summer and I've been doing loads of burns since I arrived. That was about two weeks ago. Well, my dad just came up to me and asked if I knew what was wrong with the lawn. So I took a peek out the window, and there are all these lines of dead grass, and they're all in pairs which are parallel to one another. It looks like our lawn was gangbeaten by the other yards in the neighborhood.
It didn't take long to realize they were all the places that I'd spun off before lighting up. I could even place 'em..."Hey, there's monday over there, and that's thursday right there, and hey, there's the one from just before I set my hair on fire," I thought to myself.
Now, I didn't think kero would be GOOD for grass by any means but I didn't think a little bit of excess would kill so much of it either. Ah well. Will spin off in neighbor's yard from now on.
This ever happen to anyone else?
Alrighty, so up until two or three weeks ago, any burns I'd done had taken place at the university I attend, on a nice big open field. From the hundreds of people walking over the field, it was quite muddy and pretty much dead. Thus, I noticed no ill effects to the field that were caused by the spinning I was doing.
I'm now home for the summer and I've been doing loads of burns since I arrived. That was about two weeks ago. Well, my dad just came up to me and asked if I knew what was wrong with the lawn. So I took a peek out the window, and there are all these lines of dead grass, and they're all in pairs which are parallel to one another. It looks like our lawn was gangbeaten by the other yards in the neighborhood.
It didn't take long to realize they were all the places that I'd spun off before lighting up. I could even place 'em..."Hey, there's monday over there, and that's thursday right there, and hey, there's the one from just before I set my hair on fire," I thought to myself.
Now, I didn't think kero would be GOOD for grass by any means but I didn't think a little bit of excess would kill so much of it either. Ah well. Will spin off in neighbor's yard from now on.
This ever happen to anyone else?
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Yeah, That happened to me... when I was in Brisbaine, in Oz, I got banned from even looking at the grass with a spinning glint in my eye, cos I nearly destroyed the whole lawn they had, just from the kero from a few burns!. Bummer!
Yeah, That happened to me... when I was in Brisbaine, in Oz, I got banned from even looking at the grass with a spinning glint in my eye, cos I nearly destroyed the whole lawn they had, just from the kero from a few burns!. Bummer!
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Location: San Diego, California, USA
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Location: San Diego, California, USA
Posted:
Same thing happened here. After a while I just took to not spinning off and letting the access fuel burn off in the first 20 seconds or so.
Same thing happened here. After a while I just took to not spinning off and letting the access fuel burn off in the first 20 seconds or so.
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Posted:
this sounds like it should be in the you might be a fire spinner if. . . thread.
use biodeisil, it isn't supposed to kill the grass.
this sounds like it should be in the you might be a fire spinner if. . . thread.
use biodeisil, it isn't supposed to kill the grass.
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Posted:
sup yall same thing cept'without fire my parctise poi waz to long and patches of grass started to fly my mom got mad she almost freaked it scared me look like she kill me
sup yall same thing cept'without fire my parctise poi waz to long and patches of grass started to fly my mom got mad she almost freaked it scared me look like she kill me
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Oh baby, yeah. My grass got murdered by an anonymous fire group rehearsing in my yard a few years ago... I bought in some majorly tuff type turf ( mucho expensive, even off the back of a truck...) and it's been handling the odd burn really well.. till just a few months ago...now its looking rather sad.
Well sad. 
Burned out .
Clues I've picked up from this seem to be... don't spin off (we do mostly poi, and devil stick, not a lot of staff) Or if we do, do it on the bricks by the pool..... or maybe use a clever spin jar like I saw on a video here somewhere...
Has anyone found any other things that help?
eg giving it a good watering stragiht after helps?? Dilutes it?? Or is it just too late once fuel gets on it. We not using kero btw. d60 or Ksol.
*bumpZ*
Oh baby, yeah. My grass got murdered by an anonymous fire group rehearsing in my yard a few years ago... I bought in some majorly tuff type turf ( mucho expensive, even off the back of a truck...) and it's been handling the odd burn really well.. till just a few months ago...now its looking rather sad.
Well sad. Burned out .
Clues I've picked up from this seem to be... don't spin off (we do mostly poi, and devil stick, not a lot of staff) Or if we do, do it on the bricks by the pool..... or maybe use a clever spin jar like I saw on a video here somewhere...
Has anyone found any other things that help?
eg giving it a good watering stragiht after helps?? Dilutes it?? Or is it just too late once fuel gets on it. We not using kero btw. d60 or Ksol.
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Location: Cambridge UK
Posted:
have a spin off bucket:
plastic bottle that poi will fit in with string attached to the top.
as you spin off the excess collects in the bottle, then you pour it back in the fuel dump.
There's a thread on spin off buckets somewhere
have a spin off bucket:
plastic bottle that poi will fit in with string attached to the top.
as you spin off the excess collects in the bottle, then you pour it back in the fuel dump.
There's a thread on spin off buckets somewhere
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I'm not sure where the thread is but heres the link to the 'Fuel and the Environment' bit on Nicks site
https://www.thevenue.org/fuelandenvironment.htm
And here are the links for the shake off vids
https://www.playpoi.com/global/videos/staffshakeoff.wmv
https://www.playpoi.com/global/videos/poishakeoff.wmv
I'm not sure where the thread is but heres the link to the 'Fuel and the Environment' bit on Nicks site
https://www.thevenue.org/fuelandenvironment.htm
And here are the links for the shake off vids
https://www.playpoi.com/global/videos/staffshakeoff.wmv
https://www.playpoi.com/global/videos/poishakeoff.wmv
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Location: london
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Posted:
always water the grass b4 u spin(helps it survie better) and also wash it off after to get rid of as much as possible...also i found that miricle grow helps with the dead patchs if u do get em.... the things is with grass u can buy uber boxes of seed that u just chuck down over the dead bits n it will grow bak within a few weeks
thanks for the knoweledge of my dad(keen grass grower)
always water the grass b4 u spin(helps it survie better) and also wash it off after to get rid of as much as possible...also i found that miricle grow helps with the dead patchs if u do get em.... the things is with grass u can buy uber boxes of seed that u just chuck down over the dead bits n it will grow bak within a few weeks
thanks for the knoweledge of my dad(keen grass grower)
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That only works if your soil isn't poisoned from massive amounts of burn time. Its taken me a year to grow my grass back. Because the soil was hammered from burning, i had to dig the whole thing over and fence it!
It was a huge hole in my front lawn, like it was burnt in there 
I called it Mordor.
Spin over concrete first or use a bucket. DONT spray water over the burn zone before! All that will do, is make you slip over. Im pretty sure Kero wont be absorbed by water anyway and its made no difference in my lawn. And water mixed with kero is just slippery.
Do water it after the burn, not much just to keep it green. If it starts to fade, find a new place. I noticed that spinning off in the sme place kills it faster than anything, but not spining off at all STILL kills the grass. It must turn to mist and fall ?
Best idea is : spin on concrete. You wont slip over or burn a hole in your grass.
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boxes of seed that u just chuck down over the dead bits n it will grow bak within a few weeks
That only works if your soil isn't poisoned from massive amounts of burn time. Its taken me a year to grow my grass back. Because the soil was hammered from burning, i had to dig the whole thing over and fence it!
It was a huge hole in my front lawn, like it was burnt in there I called it Mordor. Spin over concrete first or use a bucket. DONT spray water over the burn zone before! All that will do, is make you slip over. Im pretty sure Kero wont be absorbed by water anyway and its made no difference in my lawn. And water mixed with kero is just slippery.
Do water it after the burn, not much just to keep it green. If it starts to fade, find a new place. I noticed that spinning off in the sme place kills it faster than anything, but not spining off at all STILL kills the grass. It must turn to mist and fall ?
Best idea is : spin on concrete. You wont slip over or burn a hole in your grass.
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Posted:
Mordor!
Well, my backyard is mostly grass... some bricks around the pool, and a concrete area that is too slopey to be much use. Re-seeding wouldn;t really help, the bubby seeds would get trampled again! That's why I actually bought in turf after the Big Summer.
* I think the spin off jar will become a part of our lives.. saves masses of fuel too from what I saw on the vid.
* Water afterwards to at least get the stuff diluted.
I agree not before.
*Also there is a huge park at the bottom of my street... maybe we need to start trotting down there with our buckets if we're gonnna do more than a quick spin..
* and seeing my favorite thing is glowies anyway I'll just indulge myself with my fabulous double decker multicoloured spectaculights at home and save bulk fire for Moonfest (or the park...)
Mordor!
Well, my backyard is mostly grass... some bricks around the pool, and a concrete area that is too slopey to be much use. Re-seeding wouldn;t really help, the bubby seeds would get trampled again! That's why I actually bought in turf after the Big Summer.
* I think the spin off jar will become a part of our lives.. saves masses of fuel too from what I saw on the vid.
* Water afterwards to at least get the stuff diluted.
I agree not before.
*Also there is a huge park at the bottom of my street... maybe we need to start trotting down there with our buckets if we're gonnna do more than a quick spin..
* and seeing my favorite thing is glowies anyway I'll just indulge myself with my fabulous double decker multicoloured spectaculights at home and save bulk fire for Moonfest (or the park...)
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Posted:
Hydrocarbon rich petrolium distilates are harmful to plant life?
Get out of town!
Hydrocarbon rich petrolium distilates are harmful to plant life?
Get out of town!
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Yeah yeah Sparkey, It's true!!!!!!!! No kidding!!!!
Next week:
How firespinning contibutes to global warming.....
Yeah yeah Sparkey, It's true!!!!!!!! No kidding!!!!
Next week:
How firespinning contibutes to global warming.....
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Location: australia
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Posted:
you people need bromeliads 
kero (in small amounts - and conveniently close to the amounts given off from spinning) is actually good for bromeliad wells - it helps keep away mosquitoes
Even so, it's AFTER I've finished spinning that I tend to wet the area down afterwards - I hadn't thought so much for the dilution of fuel, but more so, to ensure the area is damp and a fire can't break out from any residual fuel left behind after I leave an area...
you people need bromeliads
kero (in small amounts - and conveniently close to the amounts given off from spinning) is actually good for bromeliad wells - it helps keep away mosquitoes
Even so, it's AFTER I've finished spinning that I tend to wet the area down afterwards - I hadn't thought so much for the dilution of fuel, but more so, to ensure the area is damp and a fire can't break out from any residual fuel left behind after I leave an area...
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So much fun swatting mozzies with a staff 
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Location: Oregon, USA
Posted:
so would this be the time to remind all of us who are 30 or so that that's what schools used to use to mark out football fields? am i the only one who read the subject line and went, "well, duh...."?
so would this be the time to remind all of us who are 30 or so that that's what schools used to use to mark out football fields? am i the only one who read the subject line and went, "well, duh...."?
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