Written by:
From: simian
09/07/07 03:21 PM
context is what its all about now baby
"WOW what was that!?"
"what it was is unimportant. What matters is the context in which it was placed."
"hmm, that didn't look so hot"
"it will do, i just need to find the right context"
The heckle of 2008:
"Do it CONTEXTUALLY!"
Yeah baby. Context. You know you love it.
Written by:
From: mcp
10/07/07 08:37 AM
are you on drugs?
Clearly the best heckle in this new regime will be: Do in a the context of a female tennis player!
Written by:
From: simian
10/07/07 09:56 AM
i'm high on CONTEXT sweetcheeks
Phi phenomenons and chuu chuus got me thinking about it -
the individual movements are kinda simple and almost trivial, and not enormously effective. But the context in which they're placed, what goes before and after it, is what gives them their greater significance (makes them look cooler)
But temporal context is just one part of it.
enviromental context:-
obvious example: glowtoys in bright sunlight vs. glowtoys in the dark
Now imagine different visual effects from different kinds of spinning against fast moving horizontal\vertical backgrounds (motorway/waterfall)
And Cultural context:
Ironic spinning
Spinning where knowledge of the spinners personality is important
spinning as part of a story
Musical context:
what kind of music you're playing - well duh...
ETCETERA!
so you can play with the contexts in different ways, using them to reinforce an impression \ create a counterpoint or even trigger phi phenomenon.
have i dun gon mad?
Written by:
From: mcp
10/07/07 11:21 AM
you're talking about performance techniques simian, who would have ever thought it?
so yeah, i think you dun gon mad!
Written by:
From: simian
10/07/07 11:32 AM
hmmm
only in the sense that poi is performance
which isn't even necessarily true, because it depends on the context
Written by:
From: mcp
10/07/07 11:37 AM
if you're spinning and nobody is watching you, in the middle of a forest and a tree falls, does it matter what the context is?
Does context only matter when there is somebody to understand the context, other than you?
If nobody see's you spin, did you even really do it?
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
Written by: mcp
Simian, you have to define this context thing. It means TOOO much! First I thought you were talking about the context of your spin, then it could be the context of the move and how it relates to the movements before and after... and now you've added the context of one prop to the other... to create illusion.
Ah so in essense I agree with Tom, unfortunately. I think we need different names for each form of 'context'. But that could be cos I am a systematical naming by-atch.
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Burner of Toast
Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude
Written by: megnah, i read it. i quickly got used to looking back to deal with overlaps in this thread
I made a post above your's you probably haven't read.
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
Written by: simian
Yeah, so creating cognitive dissonance with temporal and spatial context of two props is cool. You seem disappointed this thread doesn't mean that. But you could make a new one about that, and give it a cool name and everything, if you like![]()
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Written by: mcp
I just call illusions. And using them to mindfuck the audience. Win.
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
Written by: simian
it doesn't get some magical new meaning when you apply it to poi any more than "up" or "down" does.
yes it can apply to an awful awful lot. But it's meant to.
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
Written by: simianWritten by: mcp
I just call illusions. And using them to mindfuck the audience. Win.
Your definition is a description of end result.
my definition is explanatory.
Win.![]()
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
Written by: simian
and Mr Cole!
that's why i didn't want to start compartmentalising.
Those two contexts are the only ones are they? Temporal and spatial, thats all there is. Yup, just two types of context there, not an infinitie number of them pretending to be two at all...
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
Written by: simian
Those two contexts are the only ones are they? Temporal and spatial, thats all there is. Yup, just two types of context there, not an infinitie number of them pretending to be two at all...
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
Written by: coleman
if it were finite we might be able to communicate it effectively and where the hell is the fun in that?
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
Written by: simian
And actually i said you should name other contexts. So nerr again. What i object to is the creation of some faux-formal family of contexts that would confuse meanings with their descriptions.
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
Written by: simianWritten by: coleman
if it were finite we might be able to communicate it effectively and where the hell is the fun in that?
erm mr cole, the infinite variety of the english language seems to be doing us kind of ok. Its not really infinite of course. But it's big.
should i start only talking using 10 words so you understand me better?![]()
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
Written by: mcp
But you seem to be arguing we should all use just one big word
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
Written by: coleman
[if you put the word context into a more specific context] you find that its probably describing something that already has a fairly context-specific and adequately descriptive name.
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
Burner of Toast
Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
POI THEO(R)IST