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audaxBRONZE Member
freelance bum
286 posts
Location: Upstairs, Australia


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I have been going to my local weekly fire gathering for months now and have taken it upon myself to keep it posted on the internet to get more people to come. Currently we get about 30-40 people every week and sometimes more. Not all twirlers as there are drummers and friends as well. I find it's better to have more people around (within reason) as it's more fun, people learn and share more as there is a diversity of styles and it's just great to watch twirling as well as do, right?But my issue here today is that I actually have problems convincing people to come along and twirl. Some who are quite good. Now I know that sometimes a twirler may not be in the mood to twirl with other people. But I ask, why never twirl in front of more a few people? I understand that some people are sensitive to the public gaze and suffer stage fright. But our meeting for one involves more just getting up and twirling in a HUGE space sometimes many at a time and with plenty of twirlers to help with learning new stuff. If someone is new and thinks they're "shit" it's the perfect place to get better as the more experienced have been there and know the feeling. A fire gathering is the most supportive crowd to "come out" in front of.Not to mention the vast possibilities of picking up new ideas/moves, progressing styles, getting advice on materials and the best website wink Surely these people must realise that getting together with like-mindeds is going to be better than smacking yourself in the head in the privacy of your own coccoon. These reluctant people are missing out on their best resource because of a little shyness (I guess?). If you've ever performed in front of a large vocal non-twirler crowd you may know what a bad or indifferent response can feel like (in no way exclusive to fire performance) but a fire gathering is a very different environment to be in.On a good day this reluctant attitude saddens me a little. On a grumpy day if someone says they don't want to twirl in front of people who know what they're doing, it makes me feel crap about my own twirling.I think that this reluctance is a stage that some people go through that they may eventually get over. A part of life in general. But practically everyone who comes to gatherings say (sometimes with surprise) how great it was and how much better they feel about their twirling through the progress they've made.So why is it so hard to convince some people? I note that in the current survey, a fair proportion of voters say that they have never twirled in front of others or prefer to be solo. Can these people shed some light as to why otherwise confident rational people won't meet me in the park at night?------------------Your parents were wrongFire is good Play with fire

UYI wink OLDSKOOL


DarkFairyQueenmember
557 posts
Location: The Underworld


Posted:
- Almost forgot!-

Bender! Midget porn??!! Got ay links?

Az abouve, So below...


GlåssDIAMOND Member
The Ministry of Manipulation
2,523 posts
Location: Bristol, United Kingdom


Posted:
have you tried
www.homeofmidgetporn.com
????
i didn't know that fairies like dwarves so.

not coming to play tonight.
wurk.
(might drop in for 10mins at the end).
maybe probably see you'll thurs.
lots of gloves
Drew

Kyromember
24 posts
Location: Portland, OR USA


Posted:
Last year I emailed an invite to play in the park on Sunday afternoons (non-fire event). I browsed Home of Poi for a list of people in Portland Oregon area. I got 10 people at first and before we knew it there were 30 or more of us playing in the park.

I recently sent out new invites for people to join the local list again; and found only a handful responded. The list has grown to over 80 members; but we only get a few that actually come out and play.

Even our First Sunday Fire Jams dwindled down to a handful of people. And I know many people in town who've never come to any of the events, fire or not.

The gatherings are very friendly and many of us bring extra toys to share with people who walk up to us curious to see if they can try. It's a lot of fun, I just wish many more performers in the area would come out to play.

From the most primitive cultures to the most advanced civilizations,man has had to manufacture things;his well-being depends on his success at production.The lowest human tribe cannot survive without that alleged source of pollution: fire. Ayn Rand


.:* Moon Pixie *:.Carpal \'Tunnel
3,492 posts
Location: .:*over the rainbow*:.


Posted:
I think everyone is too busy worrying about who is watching them (introverts) or who's not watching them (extroverts) that no one's really watching anyone anyway Kee hee

But I deffinately got that shy self consious feeling (that I haven't felt in a while) when I was at an African drumming and dance Workshop... I found it amazing that I feel compleatly comfortable dancing (in my usual way) in any other situation...Performing (belly dance) or just on the dance floor or in the middle of the drumming circle at Moon Fest... I love dancing When ever there's good music... I can't help but dance... But in a learning situation I felt so self consious and unco. and I was tripping over my own feet! I think most people feel shy when they're learning. But anything that you do a lot of, you get better at so... Twirl on! The more you do things the better you get at them and the more confident you become And it always helps to have someone else at the same level as you (or more unco than you ) for moral support. So bring a friend

*:...one day all the fairy fridges will be aligned and my pixie world will be complete...:*


splerphBRONZE Member
member
75 posts
Location: Perth Australia


Posted:
Just wanted to add its all shyness. I've been wanting to go down to South Freo and twirl for a couple of months but I'm just to shy to do it.

I don't htink its just getting up and twirling in front of other people its the actually going there part. (if that makes sense)

Its a daunting thought that the people there know each other and I don't know anyone.

Its alot different from twirling in my backyard with my boyfriend and friends watching.

Smile and the whole world smiles with you


.:* Moon Pixie *:.Carpal \'Tunnel
3,492 posts
Location: .:*over the rainbow*:.


Posted:
In a Sark Book it says "You are welcome everywhere." if you have this attitude... quite often you will be. Go out into the world with everyone as your best friend and the world will seem so much friendlier!
I know that if someone is friendly to me I'll treat them with the same friendliness... and it works the other way... People just cant be grumpy with you when your smiling and being lovely.

*:...one day all the fairy fridges will be aligned and my pixie world will be complete...:*


DarkFairyQueenmember
557 posts
Location: The Underworld


Posted:
Moon Pixie, your a cutie
where do you cum from?

DFQ xx

Az abouve, So below...


audaxBRONZE Member
freelance bum
286 posts
Location: Upstairs, Australia


Posted:
I like that attitiude and I know what you mean about it. I've met people that are like that and you just can't help but be friendly back to them.
But if you're not so confident and feel as though you couldn't pull that off, try to at least a bit more open, courteous and give people the benefit of the doubt that they may not actually bite your head off!

UYI wink OLDSKOOL


audaxBRONZE Member
freelance bum
286 posts
Location: Upstairs, Australia


Posted:
I've recently just moved to Broome in North West Aus and have been looking to start a regular gathering but haven't met enough people to gather yet. There are a couple guys who have been busking at the best pitch in the area every night for a long time now, and they get there very early to make sure they have the spot to themselves. They are both very macho aggressive staff twirlers who I met a while ago and were happy enough to pick up tricks from our gathering (and burn our fuel) but did no teaching or much friendliness otherwise themselves. Anyone else come across this problem?

UYI wink OLDSKOOL


Thistleold hand
950 posts
Location: Nottingham UK


Posted:
When I was first learning I would get up and twirl anytime in front of any one and didn't care. But as time has passed and my skills have improved I have become shy about performing in front of other twirlers. I think it's because I'm scared they're judging me and I'm not going to come out of it with a good result. Although I never judge anyone I'm just proud of anybody who has the guts to get up and have a go. The better I get the worse the shyness gets. At gatherings I hardly pick up my poi now. This shyness is new to me because I've never been bothered what anyone thought of me before, and have always been quite extroverted. Writing about this has made me want to do something about it. Is there such a thing as stage fright therapy?

Catboy, I remember that cold wet night you were talking about. You wouldn't have spun at all if I'd not dragged you kicking and screaming out of my van and made you have a spin. Marlboro came that night too and I seem to remember him having the same feelings as you. And look at you both now you can do more technical moves than me.

[ 16 June 2002, 08:15: Message edited by: Thistle ]

Are we nearly there yet?


audaxBRONZE Member
freelance bum
286 posts
Location: Upstairs, Australia


Posted:
Stage fright therapy exists, but otherwise just get up!

UYI wink OLDSKOOL


audaxBRONZE Member
freelance bum
286 posts
Location: Upstairs, Australia


Posted:
Staging a gathering in a setting that is awesome to twirl in is a good step in the right direction.

UYI wink OLDSKOOL


Thistleold hand
950 posts
Location: Nottingham UK


Posted:
Thanks Audax I will be more specific about my problem. If I'm at a gathering in my home town I spin and spin without shyness, also if I'm at a free party or clubbing I have no problems. The shyness only comes on when I'm at poi gatherings in other places when there's lots of spinners I don't know. I liken it to feeling like one very small spinner in a sea of big spinners.

Are we nearly there yet?


Bender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
It helps to visualise the last time your friends took you to the beach when it wasn't warm - goddamn it was cold in the water,
'I'm soo not gettin in there dude!'
then some fool dunks you in when you least expect it.
the exhiliration!
'ah it's not so bad! what was i really worrying about!?!?'
That scenario and fire sessions are not that dissmiliar.
later, you don't need the drunken mate to dunk your head.
Let the freedom infect your spirit!

you have nothing to loses and forty pounds to gain.
...not ...wait.. ahh I was supposed to .. ah..sod it! I'm off for coffee!

Laugh Often, Smile Much, Post lolcats Always


audaxBRONZE Member
freelance bum
286 posts
Location: Upstairs, Australia


Posted:
Gotcha now! definitely a different scenario in front of people you don't know. If you have a move that noone there is doing, practise that with your non fire poi and for sure, someone will notice and want to know how it is done. Or bring out a funky new toy they don't have. Let the people who are amongst there own friends be the comfortable bold ones and bring you in.
Try not to look competetive in any way as some of us are sensetive artist types who baulk easily.

UYI wink OLDSKOOL


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