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PeleBRONZE Member
the henna lady
6,193 posts
Location: WNY, USA


Posted:
So, I am posting this here because I am really infuriated on so many levels.
Cassandra sent this to me in PM, and gave me permission to copy it here. I feel this is prudent to publically address because so many of us were named in this letter, and in blatant lies and mistruths that I feel is offensive and should be known about.

"just got an email from "cantus fraggle" but I KNOW it was not him cause
it is not his style and not his email address either

here is what the mail said


listen, I think we have all had enough of you and it is time for you
to know that.
I get emails from people such as Fluffly Napalm Fairy, valura, Trippy
Hippy, Bam Bam, Lunchbox, Bluecat, 1112, Magnus, Dio, Rozi,
Pele and even Malcolm telling me they are tired of you.
So given your post about some of us changing our identities online
but I am writing you with my real name
Stop "shining" on Home of Poi, we do not want you and your fake
kindness
Cantus"



Now, we fully realize this is not Cantus writing this. It is not his style at all and the way the names are listed is completely incorrect for what Cantus would say.
However.....
I am upset that someone used HoP resources to cause pain.
I am livid that this was a violation against someone I LOVE DEARLY
I am angry because so many unsuspecting people, whom I also care about, were brought into this.

The blatant lies and ignorance with which this was done was to levels of immaturity that are completely incomprehensible to me. The astounding amount of disrespect for HoP and the people named is astronomical.
It is from a very insecure place, a very jealous and cruel heart that this letter comes from. It sickens me that the attack was on someone so lovely, so giving and so beautiful inside and out as Cassandra. But it is always the lovely ones that the insecure try to take down isn't it.

So here is my note to the person who did this. I pity you for your cowardice (hiding behind a wall of strangers, pretending to speak for them? How cowardly can you get?). Whatever you were trying to pull didn't work. Cassandra knows I have a big mouth and a protective attitude. Truly if she wishes, Cassandra can actually have the email tracked (written from a Cantus Fraggle hotmail account, btw for all you net savvy) and take legal measures to have your service provider ban you. She is wonderful and should not bat an eyelash at your pettiness however.
I sincerely hope that someday you find peace with yourself, because maybe then you will find that these actions are not funny, nor are they productive in anyway. Perhaps when that day comes you will find yourself in her place and know how it feels.

[ 11. April 2003, 06:06: Message edited by: Pele ]

Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK


e-Lix-ieaBRONZE Member
member
37 posts
Location: Chicago, IL USA


Posted:
Cass,
we have never met but all the awesome people who have brought me so much joy while i have been visiting Oz love and care about you the feeling is supported by me.

i'm sorry that this had to happen, but keep smiles high and the fire warm.

big hugs! and smooches!

these smiling eyes are just a mirror for the sun!


Magnusmember
279 posts
Location: Bath, UK


Posted:
That's a bit mean and rude.

I'm quite flattered to think that someone thought my name was worth including in that list, but what a loser.

What sort of a petty little mind do you have to have, that you'd send a mail like that. As Pele says, I hope you find peace.

Doesn't look like Cass has been phased by this, it's not worth giving the person any more energy, let karma deal with them. You have to be pretty insecure and unhappy to send a mail like that anyway.

hugs to all.

Magnus... pay it forward


ValuraSILVER Member
Mumma Hen
6,391 posts
Location: Brisbane, Australia


Posted:
My god.
I was on my way home in the car this arvo, after work, when Arsn told me what had happened.
Honestly for one moment I sat there and told him he was bullshitting. Then when he promised that he wasnt I went off my nutter for about fifteen minutes bleeting about how could anyone attack such prue love energy that has graced us in this phyiscal world in the form of our wee cass.
I wont have a bar of this who ever you are.
If you had paused to open your closed mind for just one second you would see that we as a family shall over come your negative energy and only emerge stronger and more satisfied for the lesson that you are providing for us right now.
I say get some help for your bitterness, and leave us alone in our happy world, because nothing will ever break our spirit espically not anyone attacking part of our family. We will just pull together tighter and support each other more.
Cass your presence in my life, even if it was for a fleeting moment, touched me and uplifted my energy for days. You are truley one of the special ones Cass, and this yuckkyness that has found its way to you will flow past you without even disrupting you natural flow sweets.

I love you all, and hugs to everyone that has been mentioned in that letter, I know we will beat this.
And to the sorry individual who did this. BACK OFF.

TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"


BamBamPooh-Bah
1,810 posts
Location: London


Posted:
Well put Valura

Thank you

A kiss blown is a kiss wasted, the only kind of kiss is a kiss tasted.

I'm a woman. We don't say what we want, but we reserve the right to be pissed off if we don't get it. That's what makes us so fascinating and not just a LITTLE bit scary.


Bender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
i'm not sure if i'm more digusted at how blatantly incedulous the letter was or more disgusted at the tone of it.

i am though reassured that no-one for a second took this sick joke seriously!
btw, very nice quote, lightning! and flid, once again, a very correct a relevant technical explanation, mate!

---> Shine ON CASS!!! (et al) <<---

Laugh Often, Smile Much, Post lolcats Always


LuNcHbOx...(Aka. Nathan)-un-singlemember
536 posts
Location: beneath a cloak of self-torture


Posted:
Hey!?
Were is C@ntus?!

-LuNcHbOx, Aka. Nathan...Give a man to fish, and that man knows where to come for more fish...Teach a man to fish and you have just destroyed your market base...


RoziSILVER Member
100 characters max...
2,996 posts
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia


Posted:
I think C@ntus is having a bit of a holiday with his fraggle-queen, but I am not sure. However, from what FNF said, he knows about this and is understandably upset.

C@ntus FNF

It must be awful to have your name taken in vain in this way.

In a strange way, I am almost glad it was Cass who received this and not another. Cass knows most of the people on the list so well she could never believe that it is real. Also, she is incredibly level-headed and secure, and can take these things in her stride. I know that if I had received an email like this when I was in a more vulnerable stage in my life, I would never have posted again.

oh, and Malcolm. Much respect to you. We know how hard you work to look out for all of us who use this board.

It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.

What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...


Raymund Phule (Fireproof)Enter a "Title" here:
2,905 posts
Location: San Diego California


Posted:
Cass, since you dont want anything to happen to this individual nothing will. But let me find out who and where that person is and I can not garnte anything!

Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"


pozeeBRONZE Member
old hand
887 posts
Location: san diego, USA


Posted:
just goes to show you how ignorant some peoploe can be. love ya cass. myst was asking about your baby the other night. hi everyone else miss you all too...

anyone got a light?


.:* Moon Pixie *:.Carpal \'Tunnel
3,492 posts
Location: .:*over the rainbow*:.


Posted:
Big hugs to ALL ...especially to the person who wrote it... you obviouslly need it

Cass... needless to say... We all LOVE you

*:...one day all the fairy fridges will be aligned and my pixie world will be complete...:*


Pink...?BRONZE Member
Mistress of Pink...Multicoloured
6,140 posts
Location: Over There, United Kingdom


Posted:
I can't believe someone would sink so low to do something so horrible to Cass, and what's worse is saying it's from the most beautiful and caring people i know!

to everyone (Except the person who done this)

Alice

Never pick up a duck in a dungeon...


.Morph.SILVER Member
addict
669 posts
Location: Lancashire, UK


Posted:
That is bang out of order.

's to all involved!

for the person that sent this, if that's how you try to communicate with people you really need to take a long hard look at your perspectives!! There are some great people in the world, like the people you have abused, but you will never feel their great energy by sending out your pain.


gάrbǿaddict
521 posts
Location: Bristol / London / Norwich / Chennai, India (UK) (...


Posted:
this is horrible

:garbo:

be excellent to each other: safe:


CassandraFroggie ... Ribbit !!!
4,224 posts
Location: Back in Paris... for now !


Posted:
Just wondering ... is it just me or can t all of you open the first page of this thread ????

shine on
Cass

"I want brown bread... no, that is diesel oil..."
"So I was raised in Europe, where History comes from ..."
"NON !!! La Plume de mon oncle n est pas Bingibangibungi !!!"


MikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
I can open it, Cass.

However, much as I respect the hurt that this act has caused not only our community, but our Cass , I feel like I'd like to see it "de-featured."

One of the things about HOP that has impressed me the most is the speed at which our wounds heal and the way that they leave little or no scars. I'd like to see this message sink down the boards so that we can start that healing process.

I think we've proven here that we are such a strong community that no action by a single person can really tear us apart. Even using our names in a fraud E-mail can't do it. We just stand together and refuse to be taken down.

Whoever did this, thanks for demonstrating that fact.

to all of HOP.

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


CassandraFroggie ... Ribbit !!!
4,224 posts
Location: Back in Paris... for now !


Posted:
I agree with you Mike and I know pele was going to do that anyway

shine on
Cass

"I want brown bread... no, that is diesel oil..."
"So I was raised in Europe, where History comes from ..."
"NON !!! La Plume de mon oncle n est pas Bingibangibungi !!!"


poiaholic22member
531 posts

Posted:
Did they really say "Fluffly Napalm Fairy"?
And then expect anyone to believe that Cantus sent it.

Unfortunately there are people as such in all walks of life who find it necessary to do such things.Is better just to ignore them being that they are only trying to invoke a reaction,no?

Let's not give him/her the satisfaction of knowing that this has affected us in any way.

WintermuteLost in the world but loving it :)
119 posts
Location: Maybe Oxford, maybe Brighton ;)


Posted:
Oh well, the wheel turns and whoever it was will get 3x3 karma, so they messed up bad

Hugs to everyone, don't let the trolls get to you

If fishes were wishes we'd all cast nets


Twirl'N'BurnBooojakasha
121 posts
Location: Brisbane QLD Australia


Posted:
Boils down to one thing JEALOUSY, whoever sent the email has taken a cheap shot at some of this boards most promenient members who are really the ones who make this place as friendly and happy as it is.

Simple things amususe simple minds.

Simply an excuse to play with fire.


King Of Bongoaddict
522 posts
Location: Berlin


Posted:
To be perfectly honest, I don't actually know anyone involved, but echoing the sentiment of all other posts, respect&happiness to everyone except the coward who sent that mail...
glad its all sorted.

If we ever find them or anyone doing the same, who's up for tieing a big chain to them, pouring paraffin over them and playing poi with them off the top of a very high building?!

Your life is ending one minute at a time...
So live it.


Itsgottabmember
244 posts
Location: NZ


Posted:
this person has done bad, but we are all uniting by excluding/demeaning this 'bad' person who we have allowed to share the darkness they feel with us.

the bad person has let in darkness to this room of light. nip it in the bud. limit your pain to close friends share your joys with everyone. why would you punish someone with hate when it is clear they have enough already. the absence of love within them is allowing hatefulness to roam unrestrained in our house.

lets pray together for this most beautiful soul who has fallen temporairly. bring love to your hearts and smothering the 'fallen one' with the love as Cassandra has shown us to do.

[ 15. April 2003, 13:31: Message edited by: Itsgottab ]

KajiQuantum Theorist
564 posts
Location: Vansterdam


Posted:
I go away for three weeks and all hell breaks loose. I don't know of anyone who doesn't like Cass.... I'm confuzelled
Why would someone say that?
If there IP just happened to be PM'd to me....

Sorry you had to see that Cass, cheer up.

In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird, now the world is weird and they take prozac to make it normal again.


FlyntSILVER Member
Intrepid Penguin
5,635 posts
Location: Australia


Posted:
i'm actually gonna agree with Itsgottab here.

we've had our rant and rave, and express our dismay/disgust/disgruntlement at this incident. Now lets let it be. Nothing is gained here by continueing to spread bad feelings towards the person responsible, and i think it highly unlikely that they would bother to read this thread anyway.

we preach peace and love and harmony
lets practice it
`

Currently on the right side up of the world.


brainstormaBRONZE Member
old hand
1,186 posts
Location: under the fairie wheel, Australia


Posted:
all i have to say is fogy you are beutiful specialy lightly fryed in a nice red wine and garlic sauce

oops sorry wrong frogs legs im thinking of there

cass shine on

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, and screaming "WOO-HOO What a ride!"


pkBRONZE Member
Lambretta Fanatic
4,998 posts
Location: United Kingdom


Posted:
aint been here much for 2 months but just checking in and now feel utterly sickened that such things have been said, if there is a person i care about more than any one in my life cept for nat is cass... she knows this and i am truly ****ed off that some one has insulted me personally by enlisting my name to such a message.
i'm off... this has upset me.

AnonymousPLATINUM Member


Posted:
Yeah I have a lot of respect for Cass' behaviour in all this. Just goes to show you the true light within her.

nice one mate. Whoever it is, is just jealous, but I'm not telling anyone anything they didnt know hey?

I guess I'm not posting enough, or otherwise I'd be on the list too?



Josh

ASTRO FAERIEBRONZE Member
ummmmmmm.............
724 posts
Location: Rotherham, UK


Posted:
Ive just read this thread and i am really dissapointed to know that someone can be so petty and cruel. It must be a very sad and twisted person to come up with that kind of garbage.
Ive only been on HoP a short while, but in that time most people have made me feel welcome. Cassandra being one of them as she welcomed me when i joined. Cassandra is obviously a warm and loving person, and its genuine, you cant fake kindness!!. And Cantus is obviously a nice person too.I 'm rambling i know but one last piece of info.
Whoever set out to cause harm you have obviously messed up, cos it seems to me that all you have done is bring people even closer together!. Anyway big hugz all round i think!.

Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned
and the last fish has been caught
will we realise that we
cannot eat money.

Cree Indian, 1909


vanizeSILVER Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,899 posts
Location: Austin, Texas, USA


Posted:
I've avoided reading this thread up till now even though Cass told me about it because I had my own funk going and didn't need to hear about this sort of thing at the time.

But of course who other than Cassandra would pick up on my mood in a PM and call me despite the enourmous long distance costs just to try (sucesfully) to cheer me up? She did this even when this mess was weighing on her heart.

There are very few people in this world outside of my immediate family that I love and adore as much as Cassandra (I don't say that lightly). I am not only outraged and deeply saddened that someone would take such a cheap shot at such a tender person, but am also personally insulted even though I wasn't mentioned in the original PM (be glad I wasn't).

I'm just as happy I don't know who the perpetrator was, because I don't like holding a grudge.

And Cass, I'm sorry I was wound up in my own blues and didn't pay more attention to what was bothering you when I should have been among the first to express my support on this thread. At least some of my other words for you were well timed if ignorant of the situation at hand.

I still say you are a crepe witch though! Perhaps you should just mail this person a jar of nutella...

-v-

Wiederstand ist Zwecklos!


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