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Posted:
Hi,
Sorry if this has been asked before, Im not even sure what it's called so my search wasnt that effective. I recently saw a twirler with a staff who lit one end manually, then licked it so his tongue was on fire and lit the other end. Just wondering what kind of fuel he would be using - I assume its something that is less combustable? Is there a term for this kind of stuff?
Thanks
JD
PS Has anyone used those Flaming Hacky Sacs?! Wow, Im gonna get me one of them!
Hi,
Sorry if this has been asked before, Im not even sure what it's called so my search wasnt that effective. I recently saw a twirler with a staff who lit one end manually, then licked it so his tongue was on fire and lit the other end. Just wondering what kind of fuel he would be using - I assume its something that is less combustable? Is there a term for this kind of stuff?
Thanks
JD
PS Has anyone used those Flaming Hacky Sacs?! Wow, Im gonna get me one of them!
Incendiary meditation
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Posted:
Most likely plain and simple lamp oil or possibly kero. Not white gas though, burns to hot. That tounge thing is just a more extreme version of when people light their hand on fire to light the other end of a staff. It's a nice trick.
Most likely plain and simple lamp oil or possibly kero. Not white gas though, burns to hot. That tounge thing is just a more extreme version of when people light their hand on fire to light the other end of a staff. It's a nice trick.
Don't mind me, just passing through.
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Posted:
So do you need to prepare or coat your hand with something? It seems weird that something akin to dipping your hand in kero and lighting it could be harmless
Thanks for the reply, by the way.
JD
So do you need to prepare or coat your hand with something? It seems weird that something akin to dipping your hand in kero and lighting it could be harmless
Thanks for the reply, by the way.
JD
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Posted:
Most likely kero or something similar as JayKitty pointed out, I only say that because he was twirling a staff.
Fire eaters use something more combustible (like shellite for example). When you perform a tongue transfer from one fire torch to another unlit fire torch you want it to catch fire and burn easily. If it was less combustible you could be holding an unlit torch over your tongue for a couple of seconds while your tongue continues to burn (in the bad way).
New Oxford American Dictionary, 2nd Edition
combustible:
adjective
"able to catch fire and burn easily"
Tongue transfers, palm on fire, there are many different names and most people will understand if you call it something different. Fire Painting is a term I use to describe the "painting motion" when you move a fire torch over bare skin.
NO, No! Very bad! JayKitty is actually referring to another move used alot in fire eating most commonly called palm transfers. This is where you tap or dab the end of a torch on your palm. Your palm is only on fire with a small amount of fuel compared to dipping your whole hand. From which i'll say again is a very bad idea!
Written by: Typhon
I recently saw a twirler with a staff who lit one end manually, then licked it so his tongue was on fire and lit the other end. Just wondering what kind of fuel he would be using?
Most likely kero or something similar as JayKitty pointed out, I only say that because he was twirling a staff.
Written by: Typhon
I assume its something that is less combustable?
Fire eaters use something more combustible (like shellite for example). When you perform a tongue transfer from one fire torch to another unlit fire torch you want it to catch fire and burn easily. If it was less combustible you could be holding an unlit torch over your tongue for a couple of seconds while your tongue continues to burn (in the bad way).
New Oxford American Dictionary, 2nd Edition
combustible:
adjective
"able to catch fire and burn easily"
Written by: Typhon
Is there a term for this kind of stuff?
Tongue transfers, palm on fire, there are many different names and most people will understand if you call it something different. Fire Painting is a term I use to describe the "painting motion" when you move a fire torch over bare skin.
Written by: Typhon
So do you need to prepare or coat your hand with something? It seems weird that something akin to dipping your hand in kero and lighting it could be harmless
NO, No! Very bad! JayKitty is actually referring to another move used alot in fire eating most commonly called palm transfers. This is where you tap or dab the end of a torch on your palm. Your palm is only on fire with a small amount of fuel compared to dipping your whole hand. From which i'll say again is a very bad idea!
NYC
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Posted:
Wow... there is some scary advice in this thread already.
I've done this for years. I've heard it called 'painting' by Pele who I think showed me how... maybe it was Chuck.
I use whitegas.
I have specific wands and such and have never had a problem. You really need to find more information before you go lighting body parts on fire. I certainly don't feel comfortable explaining how to do it online.
I have specific wands and such and have never had a problem.
Done correctly it can be quite beautiful. I've seen some amazing doubles routines passing flames between kisses and such.
Wow... there is some scary advice in this thread already.
I've done this for years. I've heard it called 'painting' by Pele who I think showed me how... maybe it was Chuck.
I use whitegas.
I have specific wands and such and have never had a problem. You really need to find more information before you go lighting body parts on fire. I certainly don't feel comfortable explaining how to do it online.
I have specific wands and such and have never had a problem.
Done correctly it can be quite beautiful. I've seen some amazing doubles routines passing flames between kisses and such.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Posted:
Hey guys,
Sorry, there seems to be a misunderstanding. I wasnt actually saying I was going to dip my hand in kero and light it, I was just highlighting the fact that common sense would dictate that a fairly common fuel like Kero and skin contact is going to burn you. I am interested to know why it doesnt - does anyone know if its just because its such a small amount, or is it the angle of the surface doesnt allow a bare flame to touch skin.... Sorry to be so incredulous, its just such a reversal of the normal thinking that accelerant+flame+skin=pain.
Joel
Hey guys,
Sorry, there seems to be a misunderstanding. I wasnt actually saying I was going to dip my hand in kero and light it, I was just highlighting the fact that common sense would dictate that a fairly common fuel like Kero and skin contact is going to burn you. I am interested to know why it doesnt - does anyone know if its just because its such a small amount, or is it the angle of the surface doesnt allow a bare flame to touch skin.... Sorry to be so incredulous, its just such a reversal of the normal thinking that accelerant+flame+skin=pain.
Joel
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Posted:
I understood you completely
I know you weren't about to make human torch out of your hand, I was simply pointing out how bad that idea would be.
Good question but the answer is quite simple. It does burn you. When I run fire down my arms it not only hurts but sometimes stings for hours after. However, there is a difference between 1st degree burns and arms that are a little red. I would say my arms are burnt but not seriously burnt.
Written by: Typhon
Sorry, there seems to be a misunderstanding. I wasnt actually saying I was going to dip my hand in kero and light it
I understood you completely
I know you weren't about to make human torch out of your hand, I was simply pointing out how bad that idea would be.
Written by: Typhon
I was just highlighting the fact that common sense would dictate that a fairly common fuel like Kero and skin contact is going to burn you. I am interested to know why it doesnt
Good question but the answer is quite simple. It does burn you. When I run fire down my arms it not only hurts but sometimes stings for hours after. However, there is a difference between 1st degree burns and arms that are a little red. I would say my arms are burnt but not seriously burnt.
Stargazer
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Posted:
is using kero a bad idea, if whitegas isn't at hand?
one burns hotter, the other longer?
how much you take?
on the tongue? now that's another kind, hum?
*smells some kind of bbq-sausage somewhere, shakes his head and gets hungry*
is using kero a bad idea, if whitegas isn't at hand?
one burns hotter, the other longer?
how much you take?
on the tongue? now that's another kind, hum?*smells some kind of bbq-sausage somewhere, shakes his head and gets hungry*
the best smiles are the ones you lead to 
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Posted:
Is using kero a bad idea for what
Kero is the easiest and most common fuel for fire spinning. Good for mostly everything, it's multipurpose!
Fuels such as shellite are a Very Bad Idea for spinning.
Shellite burns cleaner, hotter, faster than kero.
It also ignites before a match even hits the ground
Get my drift?
Shellite: I use it for contact (fire painting) and anything else fire eating related. Vapour Tricks don't work with kero, which makes shellite or a whitegas ideal but if your a fire eater use what works (what's comfortable) for you.
Out of common fuels, citronella would be the only thing better than kero for fire breathing.
Written by: FireTom
is using kero a bad idea, if whitegas isn't at hand?
one burns hotter, the other longer?
how much you take?
Is using kero a bad idea for what
Kero is the easiest and most common fuel for fire spinning. Good for mostly everything, it's multipurpose!
Fuels such as shellite are a Very Bad Idea for spinning.
Shellite burns cleaner, hotter, faster than kero.
It also ignites before a match even hits the ground
Get my drift?Shellite: I use it for contact (fire painting) and anything else fire eating related. Vapour Tricks don't work with kero, which makes shellite or a whitegas ideal but if your a fire eater use what works (what's comfortable) for you.
Out of common fuels, citronella would be the only thing better than kero for fire breathing.
Stargazer
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Posted:
Hey Mat
Sorry that I didn't come across sound enough
So it's Kero or Whitegas for passing flames?
Or Shellite?
What's the difference between Shellite and Whitegas?
How much you aproximately take to pass the flames?
(Vapour tricks have to look up this term)
On the tongue? :eeks: don't that leave a petty burn?
Citronella smells nice, but actually I find it fumes out even worse than Kero...
Thanks for the info
Hey Mat
Sorry that I didn't come across sound enough
So it's Kero or Whitegas for passing flames?
Or Shellite?
What's the difference between Shellite and Whitegas?
How much you aproximately take to pass the flames?
(Vapour tricks
have to look up this term)On the tongue? :eeks: don't that leave a petty burn?
Citronella smells nice, but actually I find it fumes out even worse than Kero...
Thanks for the info
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
NYC
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Posted:
Do you guys care that Kerosine doesn't work AT ALL for transfering flames? You guys seemed so happy with it you seem to have failed to address it.
Since this thread is about "body flames"... kero, lamp oil, and torch fuel (Citronella) will NOT burn unless it has a wick (which is one of the reasons I LOVE lamp oil and kero for poi because you CAN'T light your face on fire.)
Whitegas will burn on it's own.
If you pour lamp oil on the ground (or on your hand) and light a match, NOTHING will happen. If you do the same with whitegas you will start a large hot fire.
The way transfering works is that a thin layer of fuel burns off the top of your skin before your skin starts to burn. If you put the fire out before the skin burns, you get the effect you're looking for.
I've ONLY done this with whitegas but am unfamiliar with shellite.
This thread still scares me. You guys seem really content with guessing.
Do you guys care that Kerosine doesn't work AT ALL for transfering flames? You guys seemed so happy with it you seem to have failed to address it.
Since this thread is about "body flames"... kero, lamp oil, and torch fuel (Citronella) will NOT burn unless it has a wick (which is one of the reasons I LOVE lamp oil and kero for poi because you CAN'T light your face on fire.)
Whitegas will burn on it's own.
If you pour lamp oil on the ground (or on your hand) and light a match, NOTHING will happen. If you do the same with whitegas you will start a large hot fire.
The way transfering works is that a thin layer of fuel burns off the top of your skin before your skin starts to burn. If you put the fire out before the skin burns, you get the effect you're looking for.
I've ONLY done this with whitegas but am unfamiliar with shellite.
This thread still scares me. You guys seem really content with guessing.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Stargazer
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Posted:
Besides Kerosene burns without a wick also - as it's a matter of temperature (sparkpoint so to say) - in general your information seems to be correct and I still thank you for the input...
Just in the future you may consider your attitude?! All I was doing - as being completely unfamiliar with the subject - was asking for information...
You may hit me in the face for my stupidity - this tells more about you, than it does say anything about me.
Sorry to frighten you...
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Remember to breathe
Besides Kerosene burns without a wick also - as it's a matter of temperature (sparkpoint so to say) - in general your information seems to be correct and I still thank you for the input...
Just in the future you may consider your attitude?! All I was doing - as being completely unfamiliar with the subject - was asking for information...
You may hit me in the face for my stupidity - this tells more about you, than it does say anything about me.
Sorry to frighten you...
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Remember to breathe
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
NYC
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Posted:
I'm sorry, I did not realize you are claiming to be stupid. I will try to be more sensitive to that fact in the future.
Written by: FireTom
You may hit me in the face for my stupidity
I'm sorry, I did not realize you are claiming to be stupid. I will try to be more sensitive to that fact in the future.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Posted:
thanks for the consideration dude - very much appreciato
Tell me why are some people just about to act out in here these days? get a punching ball
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Keep your attitude - I got my own
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thanks for the consideration dude - very much appreciato
Tell me why are some people just about to act out in here these days?
get a punching ball ----------------------------------------
Keep your attitude - I got my own
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the best smiles are the ones you lead to
NYC
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Posted:
HA HA!
That's great!
Good job!
Written by: FireTom
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Keep your attitude - I got my own
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HA HA!
That's great!
Good job!
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Posted:
Hey NYC,,,mind if I have a go?
And yes, I was the one who taught you, many eons ago on a roof top in Bushwick while some seriously stoopid people were firebreathing badly (til I skooled 'em!) while people thought I was the one being dangerous for teaching you, KT and LN. I remember it so fondly!
Now...
Close proximity fire- and form of fire work done on or in super close proximity to the flesh.
Painting- when the flame goes down the body.
Transfers- passing the flames...either from tool to tool, tool to body or body to body. What you saw was a transfer and all transfers require a low flashpoint fuel.
Okay...so...
He *was* using White Gas.
Quick lesson in fuels.
Everything has a flash point.
The flash point is the temperature at which things ignite. With liquids it is the temp at which the fumes ignite. The higher the temp, the higher the flashpoint.
Kero, lamp oil, torch fuel all have a high flashpoint. They do not ignite well.
White Gas, any Naphtha derrivitive, Butane, Gasolene and high proof alcohols all have low flashpoints. Their fumes are concidered explosive.
White Gas is used in transfers because of the low flashpoint. It evaporates and burns off quickly, which makes it better to use than oils which stay on the skin and can be irritating and it is obviously safer than gasolene and produces a better flame than alcohol.
The key to doing transfers is to know when to put it out, usually by rubbing your hand over the ignited area. The fuel will burn off and sometimes the flame will burn out with it. Sometimes your skin or hair will continue to burn if you allow it to go on too long. I have an arm full of painting scars from one that went a bit off plan. It is a matter of control, which we don't always have. Like all fire arts, you will get burned doing it.
This type of thing can not be done with the oil based fuels though. They simply do not have the flashpoint nor the evaporation/burn off rate required.
Hey NYC,,,mind if I have a go?
And yes, I was the one who taught you, many eons ago on a roof top in Bushwick while some seriously stoopid people were firebreathing badly (til I skooled 'em!) while people thought I was the one being dangerous for teaching you, KT and LN. I remember it so fondly!
Now...
Close proximity fire- and form of fire work done on or in super close proximity to the flesh.
Painting- when the flame goes down the body.
Transfers- passing the flames...either from tool to tool, tool to body or body to body. What you saw was a transfer and all transfers require a low flashpoint fuel.
Okay...so...
He *was* using White Gas.
Quick lesson in fuels.
Everything has a flash point.
The flash point is the temperature at which things ignite. With liquids it is the temp at which the fumes ignite. The higher the temp, the higher the flashpoint.
Kero, lamp oil, torch fuel all have a high flashpoint. They do not ignite well.
White Gas, any Naphtha derrivitive, Butane, Gasolene and high proof alcohols all have low flashpoints. Their fumes are concidered explosive.
White Gas is used in transfers because of the low flashpoint. It evaporates and burns off quickly, which makes it better to use than oils which stay on the skin and can be irritating and it is obviously safer than gasolene and produces a better flame than alcohol.
The key to doing transfers is to know when to put it out, usually by rubbing your hand over the ignited area. The fuel will burn off and sometimes the flame will burn out with it. Sometimes your skin or hair will continue to burn if you allow it to go on too long. I have an arm full of painting scars from one that went a bit off plan. It is a matter of control, which we don't always have. Like all fire arts, you will get burned doing it.
This type of thing can not be done with the oil based fuels though. They simply do not have the flashpoint nor the evaporation/burn off rate required.
Pele
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Posted:
Thanks a lot Pele, that's exactly the kind of explanation I was looking for
. I dont really want to get into the full blown body 'painting', but I reckon transfers would be fun. I usually spin with kero though, so I guess I'll have to look into white gas...
Thanks again
JD
Thanks a lot Pele, that's exactly the kind of explanation I was looking for
. I dont really want to get into the full blown body 'painting', but I reckon transfers would be fun. I usually spin with kero though, so I guess I'll have to look into white gas...Thanks again
JD
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Stargazer
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Posted:
exactly to the point!!!
Thanx bro
exactly to the point!!!
Thanx bro
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NYC
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Posted:
Except that was at the waterfront and I wasn't there.
I don't think you did much of anything on the rooftop cuz your wrist was messed up. I thought it was the next day at the waterfront that you played. And I don't remember meeting Pere in New York.
But then again, I AM older than you so my memory's not so good.
Written by: Pele
Hey NYC,,,mind if I have a go?
And yes, I was the one who taught you, many eons ago on a roof top in Bushwick while some seriously stoopid people were firebreathing badly (til I skooled 'em!) while people thought I was the one being dangerous for teaching you, KT and LN. I remember it so fondly!
Except that was at the waterfront and I wasn't there.
I don't think you did much of anything on the rooftop cuz your wrist was messed up. I thought it was the next day at the waterfront that you played. And I don't remember meeting Pere in New York.
But then again, I AM older than you so my memory's not so good.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Ooo thank you Pele I have just learned lots
Ooo thank you Pele I have just learned lots
Geologists do it in the dirt................
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Posted:
Thank you Pele.
I did have a question about whether it was possible to use a mix of kero and white gas but judging by what you've said that is a daft idea.
Thank you Pele.
I did have a question about whether it was possible to use a mix of kero and white gas but judging by what you've said that is a daft idea.
Have faith in what you can do and respect for what you can't
NYC
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Posted:
Yeah, won't work.
That's one of the reasons I like mixing lamp oil into whitegas when spinning poi becuase it keeps it from transfering properly.
Oh, and now that I remember, I think I found whitegas in Paris but found it to burn a bit differently than whitegas in the US for the purposes of trailing. So be careful.
Yeah, won't work.
That's one of the reasons I like mixing lamp oil into whitegas when spinning poi becuase it keeps it from transfering properly.
Oh, and now that I remember, I think I found whitegas in Paris but found it to burn a bit differently than whitegas in the US for the purposes of trailing. So be careful.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Posted:
Mah pleasure...s'what I'm here for!
'Specially for you FNF. You sweet thang!
And NYC, yup..Pere was there. It was Nomad, LN, You, Pere and I in the cab ride from hell!;) I remember you doing sticks on the rooftop that night and we had to stop doing fire after I firebreathed cause the local sirens went off. It was the absynth and newspaper firebreathing . I only did trailing and breathing on the rooftop because of my arm. I also remember Skunk and Greg from that night. And I shouldn't have spun at the waterfront! lol Old men and your memories! Sheesh! :rolleyes:
Mah pleasure...s'what I'm here for!
'Specially for you FNF. You sweet thang!
And NYC, yup..Pere was there. It was Nomad, LN, You, Pere and I in the cab ride from hell!;) I remember you doing sticks on the rooftop that night and we had to stop doing fire after I firebreathed cause the local sirens went off. It was the absynth and newspaper firebreathing
. I only did trailing and breathing on the rooftop because of my arm. I also remember Skunk and Greg from that night. And I shouldn't have spun at the waterfront! lol Old men and your memories! Sheesh! :rolleyes: Pele
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NYC
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Posted:
I remember none of that.
I just remember you ending up in my bed the next morning. Or was that Nyx?
I remember none of that.
I just remember you ending up in my bed the next morning. Or was that Nyx?
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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NYC
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Posted:
That was back before I knew any better. Clearly it wasn't that memorable. Despite the fact that she does often wear leather.
Don't worry, your side of the bed has since been reserved for just you. And the mole. And the marmotte. And the air filter. And pillows. And a box of tissues. And books and the phone. And a yellow legal pad and pencil. And a bottle of water.
But no other humans. At least not while I'm in it. I try not to think about when my sister house sits with her boy.
That was back before I knew any better. Clearly it wasn't that memorable. Despite the fact that she does often wear leather.
Don't worry, your side of the bed has since been reserved for just you. And the mole. And the marmotte. And the air filter. And pillows. And a box of tissues. And books and the phone. And a yellow legal pad and pencil. And a bottle of water.
But no other humans. At least not while I'm in it. I try not to think about when my sister house sits with her boy.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Posted:
I do love my leather...and evidentally you remember the best part of the night...me on the other side of your bed! But only after I got off sharing the couch with Gear 
(really Molly....it was NOTHING..lol)
Sorry for the hijack.
But this reminds me...a pair of leather pants that are old and well loved already is a great way to practice your trailing without burning your flesh. This way you can refine your technique. Practice the amount of fuels you need and placements, etc.
Just, as always, keep a trained safety nearby at all times, with the correct safety gear.
Written by: NYC
That was back before I knew any better. Clearly it wasn't that memorable. Despite the fact that she does often wear leather.
I do love my leather...and evidentally you remember the best part of the night...me on the other side of your bed! But only after I got off sharing the couch with Gear
(really Molly....it was NOTHING..lol)
Sorry for the hijack.
But this reminds me...a pair of leather pants that are old and well loved already is a great way to practice your trailing without burning your flesh. This way you can refine your technique. Practice the amount of fuels you need and placements, etc.
Just, as always, keep a trained safety nearby at all times, with the correct safety gear.
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
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Posted:
I know this may seem a little to simple,
But just take 1 can of spray deoderant. (BO Killer)
Then spray on hand, light and your done.
I know this may seem a little to simple,
But just take 1 can of spray deoderant. (BO Killer)
Then spray on hand, light and your done.
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Posted:
Wow...
Now, I've had a REALLY bad day so I am going to say....this is a very bad idea and I will get into it later, unless someone else wants to take it....
But I know I'm personally in no mood to be nice about it and as a mod I can't let it go without saying what a bad idea it is.
Written by: jc_firetricks
I know this may seem a little to simple,
But just take 1 can of spray deoderant. (BO Killer)
Then spray on hand, light and your done.
Wow...
Now, I've had a REALLY bad day so I am going to say....this is a very bad idea and I will get into it later, unless someone else wants to take it....
But I know I'm personally in no mood to be nice about it and as a mod I can't let it go without saying what a bad idea it is.
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
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Location: Glasgow
Posted:
I know a guy at high school who did that and ended up with third degree burns all over his hand. Its not a good idea.
Written by: jc_firetricks
I know this may seem a little to simple,
But just take 1 can of spray deoderant. (BO Killer)
Then spray on hand, light and your done.
I know a guy at high school who did that and ended up with third degree burns all over his hand. Its not a good idea.
Have faith in what you can do and respect for what you can't
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Location: North Queensland, Australia
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63 posts
Location: North Queensland, Australia
Posted:
I seriously hope you're joking...
A while back, when I was in junior highschool, I saw some senior boys messing about with lighters and deodorants; it ended really badly.
The poor guy (who wasnt even apart of the group messing around, innocent bystander really) probably still has scaring along his legs from that incident.
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As for those wanting to learn fire painting and the sort, I'd highly suggest going to a workshop and learning from professionals who'd be able to point out flaws in your technique, and helping you along the way all up to the process of lighting up.
It may just be me, but when trying something new, I'd rather be supervised by someone who KNOWS what they're doing then experimenting in the backyard.
If 'backyard learning' is the only alternative you have, then do your research before hand. Find out the correct fuel types, temperature it burns at, burn time (how much time before the heat'll burn you), application method, etc. You may want to try and get in touch with someone who has experience in the art. Online or offline, they can offer advice and information from their own experiences.
And most importantly... Practice, pratice, practice. Only light up AFTER you've gained enough confidence in yourself and your ability. Have your safety supervising you, walk them through each step of what you're doing and what to do in a worse case senario beforehand .
If you feel you're not ready to light up, even after setting up - just stop. No one is forcing you to continue with this, trust your insticts and your abilities. If your mind is telling you not to do it, then simple as that, dont. It's not worth the risk if you make a mistake.
As beautiful as the fire arts are, they're all dangerous to a degree and at the end of the day, you want to make sure that you're safe and unharmed.
Edit: For fuels, be careful if any may cause allergic reations and the ones that have a low flashpoint - be EXTREMELY careful you dont do anything that can cause the fuel to explode or ignite unintentionally.
~ Neser
EDITED_BY: Neser (1141647194)
Written by: jc_firetricks
I know this may seem a little to simple,
But just take 1 can of spray deoderant. (BO Killer)
Then spray on hand, light and your done.
I seriously hope you're joking...
A while back, when I was in junior highschool, I saw some senior boys messing about with lighters and deodorants; it ended really badly.
The poor guy (who wasnt even apart of the group messing around, innocent bystander really) probably still has scaring along his legs from that incident.
---
As for those wanting to learn fire painting and the sort, I'd highly suggest going to a workshop and learning from professionals who'd be able to point out flaws in your technique, and helping you along the way all up to the process of lighting up.
It may just be me, but when trying something new, I'd rather be supervised by someone who KNOWS what they're doing then experimenting in the backyard.
If 'backyard learning' is the only alternative you have, then do your research before hand. Find out the correct fuel types, temperature it burns at, burn time (how much time before the heat'll burn you), application method, etc. You may want to try and get in touch with someone who has experience in the art. Online or offline, they can offer advice and information from their own experiences.
And most importantly... Practice, pratice, practice.
Only light up AFTER you've gained enough confidence in yourself and your ability. Have your safety supervising you, walk them through each step of what you're doing and what to do in a worse case senario beforehand .If you feel you're not ready to light up, even after setting up - just stop. No one is forcing you to continue with this, trust your insticts and your abilities. If your mind is telling you not to do it, then simple as that, dont. It's not worth the risk if you make a mistake.
As beautiful as the fire arts are, they're all dangerous to a degree and at the end of the day, you want to make sure that you're safe and unharmed.
Edit: For fuels, be careful if any may cause allergic reations and the ones that have a low flashpoint - be EXTREMELY careful you dont do anything that can cause the fuel to explode or ignite unintentionally.
~ Neser
EDITED_BY: Neser (1141647194)
Fuel your fascination, burn your desire and dance with flames
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