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Come faeries, take me out of this dull world, for I would ride with you upon the wind and dance upon the mountains like a flame.

- W B Yeats

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HOW TO FLY 101:
step 1. Throw your self at the ground.
step 2. Miss.

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. Guidelines issued to children's writers combine "Left-wing political correctness with Right-wing fundamentalism", she writes, and aim "to create a new society, one that will be completely inoffensive to all parties".

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Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"

Come faeries, take me out of this dull world, for I would ride with you upon the wind and dance upon the mountains like a flame.

- W B Yeats

Burner of Toast
Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude

Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"

The experience of learning is living.

But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.

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Originally posted by Raymund P.:
How isolated is this, I didnt read both articles but is this a State thing or are they trying to make it a Country wide thing?

Personally I think teaching evoloution as fact is stupid, but then again you cant teach religion either so why not skip the pre-history assumptions and move on to current times. Let the kids know whats going on around the world.

Why do people, societies act the way they do? Those are things we should be teaching, not that man evolved from monkies.

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'It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Of course the great wastage is in the verbs and adjectives, but there are hundreds of nouns that can be got rid of as well. It isn't only the synonyms; there are also antonyms. After all, what justification is there for a word which is simply opposite of some other world? A word contains its opposite in itself. Take "good", for instance. If you have a word like "good, what need is there for a word like "bad"? "ungood" will do just as well - better, becasue it's an exact opposite, which the other is not. Or again, if you want a stronger version of "good", what sense is there in having a whole string of vague useless words like "excellent" and "splendid" and all the rest of them? "plusgood" covers the meaning, or "doubleplusgood" if you want something stronger still. of course we use those forms already, but in the final version of newspeak there'll be nothing else. In the end the whole notion of goodness and badness will be covered by only six words - in reality, only one word. Don't you see the beauty of that, Winston? It was B.B's idea orignally of course,' he added as an afterthought.
A sort of vapid eagerness flitted across Winston's face at the mention of big brother. Nevertheless syme immediatly detected a certain lack of enthusiasm. 'You haven't a real appreciation of newspeak, winston,' he said almost sadly. "even when you write it you're still thinking in oldspeak. I've read some of those pieces that you write in The Times occasionally. They're good enough, but they're translations. In your heart you'd prefer to stick to oldspeak, with all it's vagueness and its useless shades of meaning. You don't grasp the beauty of the destruction of words. Do you know that newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?'
Winston did know that, ofcourse. He smiled, sympathetically he hoped, not trusting himself to speak. Syme bit off another fragment of the dark-coloured bread, chewed it briefly, and went on:

'Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? in the end we shall make thoughcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. Every concept that can ever be needed, will be expressed by exactly one word, with it's meaning rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and forgotten. Already, in the eleventh edition, we're not far from that point. But the process will still be continuing long after you and I are dead. Every year fewer and fewer words, and the range of conciousness always a little smaller. Even now, of course, there's no reason or excuse for comitting thoughtcrime. It's merely a question of self-discipline, reality-control. But in the end there won't be any need even for that. The revolution will be complete when the language is perfect. Newpseak is Ingsoc and Ingsoc is Newspeak,' he added with a sort of mystical satification. 'Has it ever occured to you Winston, that by the year 2050, at the very latest, not a single human being will be alive who could understand such a conversation as we are having now?'
'except-' began Winston doubtfully, and he stopped. It had been on the tip of his tongue to say 'except the proles {proleteriats)' but he checked himself, not feeling fully certain that this remark was not in some way unorthodox. Syme, however, had divined what he was about to say.
'The proles are not human beings' he said carelessly. 'By 2050-earlier probably - all real knowledge of oldspeak will have disappeared. The whole literature of the past will have been destroyed. Chaucer, shakespeare, Milton, Byron - they'll exist only in newspeak versions, not merely changed into something different, but actually changed into something contradictory of what they used to be. Even the literature of the party will change. Even the slogans will change. How could you have a slogan like "freedom is slavery" when the concept of freedome has been abolished? The whole climate of thought will be diffrent. In fact there will be no thought, as we understand it now. Orthodoxy means not thinking - not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconciousness.

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Originally posted by Astar:
There is no physical evidence for everything in the bible. Which is very comparable for the THEORY of macro-evolution that almost everyone seems to regard as indisputable fact. To people who don't understand the scientific method or choose to ignore it when it comes to discussions of evolution it is indisputable fact. For religious people the words in the bible, the historical evidence+the few artifiacts that are exist are indisputable fact. See how this works?

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Your life is ending one minute at a time...
So live it.

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Originally posted by Chimera:
... Teach religion along with evolution? Which religion? Zoroastrianism? ....

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But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.