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...a recent article titled "Moral Health Care vs. 'Universal Health Care'" shows that so-called "universal health care" is factually immoral, that health care providers have a moral right to use and dispose of their products as they see fit, that the government has no moral right to coerce them in any way, and that the recognition of these facts is good for everyone.
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A final (and often unacknowledged) consequence of government interference in medicine is that it leads to violations of individual rights in other areas of life, such as violations of the right to free speech and mandates regarding what people may and may not eat.
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I think Lighning's original post was frustration at the current US system of insurance controlled access to healthcare, not a call for a particular universal health care plan. But as a doctor he's probably best qualified of all of us to outline what such a system should allow.
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Written by :Stone
My point is if people use the nanny state argument, the slippery slope to the limitation of people’s rights argument, the pro-choice’s argument if you like. Then it seems rather incongruous to me, to then turn around and suggest that it’s a good idea to start nationalizing things.
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2. The right of doctors to only treat those who can pay them handsomely
Which doesn't exist...-Mike
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-Mike
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Written by :dream
1. The right of everyone in the country to receive medical treatment - the principle behind this being that all citizens should be treated equally.
2. The right of doctors to only treat those who can pay them handsomely
3. The right of rich people not to pay taxes which are spent on treating the poor
If you were to abolish all private medical practice in favour of socialized healthcare then you could add
4. The right of rich members of the community to receive a superior service to poor people.
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Written by :Dentrassi
Point 2 - so doctors shouldnt have the same freedom to do as they choose? Im no doc, but I can certainly refuse work if someones not going to pay me as much. Rights of doctors who have worked there ass for 10yrs to get qualified i suppose dont count.
-Mike
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-Mike
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Written by :Doc Lightning
Actually, in an emergency situation, a physician may not refuse to treat a patient on the basis of inability to pay. And this is one reason why doctors get paid as much as we do. Or used to, anyway.
However, for elective/preventative care (which can often prevent said emergencies) the physician may
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The average GP in the UK earns over 100,000 pounds a year. That's not exactly bad money. If you don't think that's enough money to live a comfortable life with then you have issues...
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Besides which... If you want to be a doctor you ought to do it because you want to save lives and help people become/stay healthy, not because you want to make as much money as possible by only treating rich people.
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Not everyone who earns a lot of money is using it to buy a private yacht.
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Besides which... If you want to be a doctor you ought to do it because you want to save lives and help people become/stay healthy, not because you want to make as much money as possible by only treating rich people.
-Mike
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