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Location: Mpls, MN, USA
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As one who is currently suffering from it right now (I've been awake for 60 of the past 66 hours and havn't shut my eyes in close to 24 hours), what does one think about putting you body in stress to complete things like finals? A big part of the college experience, well, that is if you're not some big frat lush, is staying up all night to get that big project done. Is it worth it??? What are we gaining? And why, after 30 hours, does it become so oddly entertainging?
sorry, mildy serious topic on if we're pushed to far as college students but at the same time kind of random and inspired by delirum.
As one who is currently suffering from it right now (I've been awake for 60 of the past 66 hours and havn't shut my eyes in close to 24 hours), what does one think about putting you body in stress to complete things like finals? A big part of the college experience, well, that is if you're not some big frat lush, is staying up all night to get that big project done. Is it worth it??? What are we gaining? And why, after 30 hours, does it become so oddly entertainging?
sorry, mildy serious topic on if we're pushed to far as college students but at the same time kind of random and inspired by delirum.
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I have a saying for you
"Hard work sometimes pays off in the long run, but laziness always pays off now."
I have a saying for you
"Hard work sometimes pays off in the long run, but laziness always pays off now."
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i had a 30 page essay due yesterday, so i decided to stay in each night last week to work on it. Anyway I ended out going out every night drinking/parties/bowling, then having a few hours of sleep and working. The night before the deadline I was out till about 11pm and still had 15 pages to write.
Luckily its a topic i know a lot about so i wrote it all that night and got it handed in. It is of course complete b*****ks, but then most lecturers tend to read the first few pages then put the rest on a pair of scales to decide a mark.
Personally I think university/college is the last chance you have before retirement to have a few years of being able to go out all night on a week day etc and have fun. Whilst it's important if you get the oppertunaty to go to complete it and set yourself up for a job etc, if you spend the whole time working for a top grade you'll completely miss the social aspect. Personally I came to uni as much for social side as I did academic. Now i've been here a few years and found my course is complete pants, i just do the bare minimum to scrape through and keep me living essentially in holiday camp for 4 years. After all it's essentially school, with bars, a credit card and no parents!
i had a 30 page essay due yesterday, so i decided to stay in each night last week to work on it. Anyway I ended out going out every night drinking/parties/bowling, then having a few hours of sleep and working. The night before the deadline I was out till about 11pm and still had 15 pages to write.
Luckily its a topic i know a lot about so i wrote it all that night and got it handed in. It is of course complete b*****ks, but then most lecturers tend to read the first few pages then put the rest on a pair of scales to decide a mark.
Personally I think university/college is the last chance you have before retirement to have a few years of being able to go out all night on a week day etc and have fun. Whilst it's important if you get the oppertunaty to go to complete it and set yourself up for a job etc, if you spend the whole time working for a top grade you'll completely miss the social aspect. Personally I came to uni as much for social side as I did academic. Now i've been here a few years and found my course is complete pants, i just do the bare minimum to scrape through and keep me living essentially in holiday camp for 4 years. After all it's essentially school, with bars, a credit card and no parents!
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Back to topic: Sleep deprivation does silly things to you. A first it makes my brain get more active, then it slowly shuts down to the point that I don't know that I'm not thinking straight and everything's a bit weird.
It's proven that sleep deprivation has some serious mental and physical effects. Might be mildy entertaining, but completely the wrong time to be doing work. Put your body under that much stress and you're actually losing out. Resting your brain and body before your finals is probably wiser!
quote:Bally Locks!!!!!!! Think like that and you're condemning yourself. I'm 5 years out of uni, and when I was working my home was where I slept and apart from that spent little time there. Now I'm travelling I'm actually living a lots less hectic life
university/college is the last chance you have before retirement to have a few years of being able to go out all night on a week day etc and have fun
Back to topic: Sleep deprivation does silly things to you. A first it makes my brain get more active, then it slowly shuts down to the point that I don't know that I'm not thinking straight and everything's a bit weird.
It's proven that sleep deprivation has some serious mental and physical effects. Might be mildy entertaining, but completely the wrong time to be doing work. Put your body under that much stress and you're actually losing out. Resting your brain and body before your finals is probably wiser!
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i did a 24 hour film-athon last week... 24 hour worth of great films non stop mmmmmm. shawshank redemption at 5 in the morning. nice.
i did a 24 hour film-athon last week... 24 hour worth of great films non stop mmmmmm. shawshank redemption at 5 in the morning. nice.
One fine day in the middle of the night,
Two dead men got up to fight,
Back to back they faced each other,
Drew there swords and Shot each other.
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My record is a week straight with a couple of 6 hour sleep breaks here and there (I can't remember what part of the week these breaks occured in, or if they were at day or night)
Sleep deprivation is really fun but if you do it a lot it really does screw you up. It causes major depression and memory loss and all kinds of crazy stuff. Atleast in my experience.
My record is a week straight with a couple of 6 hour sleep breaks here and there (I can't remember what part of the week these breaks occured in, or if they were at day or night)
Sleep deprivation is really fun but if you do it a lot it really does screw you up. It causes major depression and memory loss and all kinds of crazy stuff. Atleast in my experience.
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anyway, back to defending my point.....(i'm a bit drunk btw, so i'll try to make it as coherant as possible)
what i mean is that when you're at uni, if you are supported by your parents and LEA for basic living costs, you get 3 or 4 years of not having to worry about money. Of course you can have fun before retiring, i don't intend to leave and go into something i hate till i'm 60, but uni is a time of your life when you don't have to worry about money etc, as long as you spend wisely. After that when you don't have support, money is always going to be important in our society, and we can't truely just say "f it" and expect to have somewhere warm to sleep each night. I know that a lot people who end up getting jobs they hate and use the money they earn in order to compensate for a life they dislike. I don't really beleive you can have a goodd life in england without having money for basic living, and earning it requires more work than you have to do at uni.
That's my point. Probably sounds like a load of drunken rubbish thou
quote:Bally Locks? Looked it up in the dictionary and got nothing. Now i think laterally i think it might actually mean one word which starts with b, ends in ks and has something to do with...ah
Bally Locks!!!!!!! Think like that and you're condemning yourself. I'm 5 years out of uni, and when I was working my home was where I slept and apart from that spent little time there. Now I'm travelling I'm actually living a lots less hectic life
anyway, back to defending my point.....(i'm a bit drunk btw, so i'll try to make it as coherant as possible)
what i mean is that when you're at uni, if you are supported by your parents and LEA for basic living costs, you get 3 or 4 years of not having to worry about money. Of course you can have fun before retiring, i don't intend to leave and go into something i hate till i'm 60, but uni is a time of your life when you don't have to worry about money etc, as long as you spend wisely. After that when you don't have support, money is always going to be important in our society, and we can't truely just say "f it" and expect to have somewhere warm to sleep each night. I know that a lot people who end up getting jobs they hate and use the money they earn in order to compensate for a life they dislike. I don't really beleive you can have a goodd life in england without having money for basic living, and earning it requires more work than you have to do at uni.
That's my point. Probably sounds like a load of drunken rubbish thou
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I am probably doing things a bit different to you Jello. I left school to work for about 8 years, and now I am studying for the next four years or more. I can relate to how you feel about the study hours and sleep deprivation. It feels hard to be able to study and have a life at times, and you do ask yourself is it worth it. I am paying my own way and if I were you I would make the most of the opportunity of your parents paying for your study, more than the party factor. At the same time, you have to ask yourself if you are really studying what you want to study. My motivation is that I have worked in some pretty suckful jobs and so my goal is to be doing a job I really love instead of just working to pay the rent. I have had many friends who left school to go to Uni while I worked and nearly all of them I know ended up quitting and are working in jobs they didnt study for because they didnt get the results they wanted or they ended up not liking it. I also like you partied but of course I was not studying but working. You dont have to be a person that you see many people as, someone that hates what they do and has no life when they get older. That is a choice that we all make. But do think about where you will be if you dont get the grades you want. I hope I havnt bored you with my ramblings!!!
I am probably doing things a bit different to you Jello. I left school to work for about 8 years, and now I am studying for the next four years or more. I can relate to how you feel about the study hours and sleep deprivation. It feels hard to be able to study and have a life at times, and you do ask yourself is it worth it. I am paying my own way and if I were you I would make the most of the opportunity of your parents paying for your study, more than the party factor. At the same time, you have to ask yourself if you are really studying what you want to study. My motivation is that I have worked in some pretty suckful jobs and so my goal is to be doing a job I really love instead of just working to pay the rent. I have had many friends who left school to go to Uni while I worked and nearly all of them I know ended up quitting and are working in jobs they didnt study for because they didnt get the results they wanted or they ended up not liking it. I also like you partied but of course I was not studying but working. You dont have to be a person that you see many people as, someone that hates what they do and has no life when they get older. That is a choice that we all make. But do think about where you will be if you dont get the grades you want. I hope I havnt bored you with my ramblings!!!
ambiguous
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Location: Mpls, MN, USA
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The reason behind this whole post I guess was that I had just completed my final review for my architecture studio. I don't know if anybody has an idea of what these studio's are like, but even if you didn't party or delay at all and started you work the moment they gave it to you, you'd still be up till 6 am the night before the big crit. thats just how it works, it's a 6 credit course that has 12 hours of class time a week. Thats just when your prof's are around, you're there much more.
So it's insane. Which oddly enough, I enjoy. It's hands on work, this past semester I designed a three unit housing complete, did numorous iterations, drew them out, and cast the wmany versions in plaster. The people I'm in it with are great, we really bond because we're all in it together. I tried engineering when I first came to college and hated it, architecture is where I've found my place and I enjoy the process. Will I like it as a career? Most likely but you never know how things work out.
So yeah, at the time I was running on empty so thats most likely why I even started this thread.
The reason behind this whole post I guess was that I had just completed my final review for my architecture studio. I don't know if anybody has an idea of what these studio's are like, but even if you didn't party or delay at all and started you work the moment they gave it to you, you'd still be up till 6 am the night before the big crit. thats just how it works, it's a 6 credit course that has 12 hours of class time a week. Thats just when your prof's are around, you're there much more.
So it's insane. Which oddly enough, I enjoy. It's hands on work, this past semester I designed a three unit housing complete, did numorous iterations, drew them out, and cast the wmany versions in plaster. The people I'm in it with are great, we really bond because we're all in it together. I tried engineering when I first came to college and hated it, architecture is where I've found my place and I enjoy the process. Will I like it as a career? Most likely but you never know how things work out.
So yeah, at the time I was running on empty so thats most likely why I even started this thread.
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Location: Richmond, Virginia
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Sleep does two basic things. Firstly, it allows the body to flush out the natural poisons and toxins produced by fatigue, your blood pressure, temperature and metablolism lowers. Secondly it allows the brain to dream. Whatever input your brain doesn't get during the day, it substitutes at night, sex, sports, somatic stuff. If you didn't dream, you'd start to hallucinate, maybe even go psychotic. Maybe that's why everythings funny after 30 hours of sleep deprivation
Sleep does two basic things. Firstly, it allows the body to flush out the natural poisons and toxins produced by fatigue, your blood pressure, temperature and metablolism lowers. Secondly it allows the brain to dream. Whatever input your brain doesn't get during the day, it substitutes at night, sex, sports, somatic stuff. If you didn't dream, you'd start to hallucinate, maybe even go psychotic. Maybe that's why everythings funny after 30 hours of sleep deprivation
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my sister Jimba had a saying there for a while, that when things got insanely funny for no apparent reason it was "ten to four!"
i asked her what it meant once (as i just thought she was being a dag...) and she said it came about one night that after being sleep deprived for a few days in college, she and her best mate got together to watch monty python videos all night, and it got so bad her friend looked at the clock and said " oh my gosh, its ten to four!" which of course set them off in complete hysteria again......
rather a useful phrase i thought `
my sister Jimba had a saying there for a while, that when things got insanely funny for no apparent reason it was "ten to four!"
i asked her what it meant once (as i just thought she was being a dag...) and she said it came about one night that after being sleep deprived for a few days in college, she and her best mate got together to watch monty python videos all night, and it got so bad her friend looked at the clock and said " oh my gosh, its ten to four!" which of course set them off in complete hysteria again......
rather a useful phrase i thought `
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its nearly one in the morning, im still on the net, i think i have an addiction, thats what stops me sleeping, i once spent 7 hours straight on the net heeeeeeeelp meeeeeeee!!
its nearly one in the morning, im still on the net, i think i have an addiction, thats what stops me sleeping, i once spent 7 hours straight on the net heeeeeeeelp meeeeeeee!!
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well i must say that if you wanna go Scientific and shit...if you where at a low level of Arrousal *awareness of surroundings etc* you THEORETICALLY can do harder tasks simpler!!! go figure
well i must say that if you wanna go Scientific and shit...if you where at a low level of Arrousal *awareness of surroundings etc* you THEORETICALLY can do harder tasks simpler!!! go figure
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huh?
huh?
i'll draw you a picture ill draw it with a twist ill draw it with a razorblade ill draw it on my wrist and if i do it right a red fountain will appear washing away my sorrow washing away my fear
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ha ha ha
ok...if you are not able to concentrate 100%...only like 50%...you would struggle to do an easy task...however a complicated thing like Finals or whatever would be easier to do...whereas the more you can concentrate it will be easier to do easy things than hard things like finals...which is why if you notice during exams or whatever that you are REALLY awake for you struggle to concentrate because your mind keeps wandering off on a different train of thought
Cooky huh?
ha ha ha
ok...if you are not able to concentrate 100%...only like 50%...you would struggle to do an easy task...however a complicated thing like Finals or whatever would be easier to do...whereas the more you can concentrate it will be easier to do easy things than hard things like finals...which is why if you notice during exams or whatever that you are REALLY awake for you struggle to concentrate because your mind keeps wandering off on a different train of thought
Cooky huh?
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Diamond In The Rough
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Location: Richmond, Virginia
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I've noticed that addictions CAN be behind sleep deprivation at times. There have been nights where I had the choice of A) Sleeping, or B) working on an addictive pastime. I rarely choose sleep. My hobby is kinda repetitious, so full concentration is not really required most of the time. If I'm fully awake, I might go do something that requires a greater attention span, or something that I can more fully enjoy while awake and aware
I've noticed that addictions CAN be behind sleep deprivation at times. There have been nights where I had the choice of A) Sleeping, or B) working on an addictive pastime. I rarely choose sleep. My hobby is kinda repetitious, so full concentration is not really required most of the time. If I'm fully awake, I might go do something that requires a greater attention span, or something that I can more fully enjoy while awake and aware
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am in full swing studying for my second year psychology exams at uni and last night I found it tremendously ironic...
I literally dozed off in on top of one of my neuropsyc books- and can you guess what page it was on when i woke up a couple of hours later and decided to move the metre&a half to my bed???
SLEEP!AHHHHG!!!
just makes you think really. Along the same lines I studied a lot of psychology of memory c couple of days ago and I can't remember all that much of it! pretty screwed really...
Apparently sleep helps consolidate memory and it has been pretty much proved that a good nights sleep is one of the healthiest things to do before an exam- not that that is any help if you haven't started studying till the night beforehand but hey...
To be perfectly honest, coming to uni was a bit of an anti-climax, lived in madrid with an excellent night life (12pm-7am) and then came to bristol uk where pubs close at 11pm and clubs at 2am...
Now I'm here for the degree (even though I didn't want to do one in the first place- my parents coerced me into doing it& now i'm pretty glad of it). I'm all up for the social life bit, but when it gets close to exams i think that part should go into hibernation for a month. Havent achieved monk/hermit status yet, but am trying.
Read a paper on self-monitoring (how much you think about the way you look to others) and people with great social lives tended to go out all the way through exams as a means of self-handicapping, to be able to have an "excuse" for doing badly or make themselves look even better if they did well. High self-monitoring males tended to do this most (i know, I was/am less now but still one of them!).
am in full swing studying for my second year psychology exams at uni and last night I found it tremendously ironic...
I literally dozed off in on top of one of my neuropsyc books- and can you guess what page it was on when i woke up a couple of hours later and decided to move the metre&a half to my bed???
SLEEP!AHHHHG!!!
just makes you think really. Along the same lines I studied a lot of psychology of memory c couple of days ago and I can't remember all that much of it! pretty screwed really...
Apparently sleep helps consolidate memory and it has been pretty much proved that a good nights sleep is one of the healthiest things to do before an exam- not that that is any help if you haven't started studying till the night beforehand but hey...
To be perfectly honest, coming to uni was a bit of an anti-climax, lived in madrid with an excellent night life (12pm-7am) and then came to bristol uk where pubs close at 11pm and clubs at 2am...
Now I'm here for the degree (even though I didn't want to do one in the first place- my parents coerced me into doing it& now i'm pretty glad of it). I'm all up for the social life bit, but when it gets close to exams i think that part should go into hibernation for a month. Havent achieved monk/hermit status yet, but am trying.
Read a paper on self-monitoring (how much you think about the way you look to others) and people with great social lives tended to go out all the way through exams as a means of self-handicapping, to be able to have an "excuse" for doing badly or make themselves look even better if they did well. High self-monitoring males tended to do this most (i know, I was/am less now but still one of them!).
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he he thanx for explaining that for any dumb people liek me micky althoug i prefer to think im ditzy!
he he thanx for explaining that for any dumb people liek me micky althoug i prefer to think im ditzy!
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I have a really strange sleep schedule. One to two weeks every month I am a complete insomniac. Then I sleep for a day and move on to a "normal" sleep schedule (about 6 hours per night for me) and then the whole process kicks in again. With the deprivation I am fully functional without caffiene until I am in my 30th hour or so, then I take a two hour nap and am ready to go another 30.
Mine is not because my body doesn't wear out, my mind doesn't shut up. I have tried several forms of meditation and relaxation and they don't help. *shrug*
BTW..I was told that a person can go 4 to 5 days without sleep when mild schizophrenia-esque symptoms begin to appear. After 7 days full out hallucinatory insanity kicks in. It can be cured by sleep though.
Sleep is also mandatory not only to provide the input substitutes, as Prometheus said, it also serves as a way to work through subconcious issues when we choose not to face them. I also always find out, through my dreams, when I am about to get really ill. Sleep is when our body replenishes and strengthens itself once more, so not sleeping is like continually drawing water from a well. Eventually nothing will be left to draw from and all activity will come to a crashing halt.
I have a really strange sleep schedule. One to two weeks every month I am a complete insomniac. Then I sleep for a day and move on to a "normal" sleep schedule (about 6 hours per night for me) and then the whole process kicks in again. With the deprivation I am fully functional without caffiene until I am in my 30th hour or so, then I take a two hour nap and am ready to go another 30.
Mine is not because my body doesn't wear out, my mind doesn't shut up. I have tried several forms of meditation and relaxation and they don't help. *shrug*
BTW..I was told that a person can go 4 to 5 days without sleep when mild schizophrenia-esque symptoms begin to appear. After 7 days full out hallucinatory insanity kicks in. It can be cured by sleep though.
Sleep is also mandatory not only to provide the input substitutes, as Prometheus said, it also serves as a way to work through subconcious issues when we choose not to face them. I also always find out, through my dreams, when I am about to get really ill. Sleep is when our body replenishes and strengthens itself once more, so not sleeping is like continually drawing water from a well. Eventually nothing will be left to draw from and all activity will come to a crashing halt.
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hehe, in which case i must have a massive reservoir!
hmm, maybe not.
night night HoP, off2bed 2get me much needed beauty sleep (not that it ever works that way!)
hehe, in which case i must have a massive reservoir!
hmm, maybe not.
night night HoP, off2bed 2get me much needed beauty sleep (not that it ever works that way!)
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quote:one am and 7 hours? lightweight! I dread to think what the longest i've spent online is.....but its over 24 hours lets put it that way......
its nearly one in the morning, im still on the net, i think i have an addiction, thats what stops me sleeping, i once spent 7 hours straight on the net heeeeeeeelp meeeeeeee!!
ambiguous
646 posts
Location: Mpls, MN, USA
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Location: Mpls, MN, USA
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Just thought I'd pop in and say it's now 5:15 am and I'm going strong
Just thought I'd pop in and say it's now 5:15 am and I'm going strong
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ambiguous
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Location: Mpls, MN, USA
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Location: Mpls, MN, USA
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And wow, I didn't realize sunrise now happened before 6.
damn, my body aches, I might need sleep.
And wow, I didn't realize sunrise now happened before 6.
damn, my body aches, I might need sleep.
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quote:24 HOURS!!!!!!!! blimey im impressed, that a whole new level of net abuse, and i thort i needed help......
Originally posted by flid:
quote:one am and 7 hours? lightweight! I dread to think what the longest i've spent online is.....but its over 24 hours lets put it that way......
its nearly one in the morning, im still on the net, i think i have an addiction, thats what stops me sleeping, i once spent 7 hours straight on the net heeeeeeeelp meeeeeeee!!
i'll draw you a picture ill draw it with a twist ill draw it with a razorblade ill draw it on my wrist and if i do it right a red fountain will appear washing away my sorrow washing away my fear
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