the best smiles are the ones you lead to
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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The number of Palestinian refugees was 711,000 (U.N. General Assembly Official Records, 5th Session, Supplement No. 18, Document A/1367/Rev. 1)
Written by: FireTom
Is Jerusalem really the "holy land" for Muslims? I don"t think so! It's the THIRD most important city AFTER Mekka and Medina...
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Separate the two sides like the quarreling children they are and then start again in about 40 years when everyone has forgotten what all the fuss was about.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
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Also, when you talk of the Palestinians who chose to neither fight nor flee in 1948, you seem to assume that all Palestinians could have stayed if they'd wanted to. Somehow I don't think the 711,000 people who left their land and homes and became refugees did so of their own free will!
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
Written by: FireTom
... by the way: Israel means "may god reign"... but I tell ya (again) he must be a pretty screwed MF, if this is his idea of a "reign"...
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Written by: Stone
Doc, don’t give up. Separating them is not the solution, what’s really missing is a commitment to growing up and becoming adults.
cheers
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Written by: Stone
Ok Lightning, what I’m hearing is that you are NOT committed to peace.
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"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."
"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "
"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."
"After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
Written by: Stone
Lightning, I’m a bit confused because on one hand yo say you want peace, while on the other you say “It won't happen and it can't happen.”
Saying “Now...who exactly is Israel going to talk with?” is just another excuse; you are not really committed to peace. If Israel really did want peace then the world wouldn’t look like it is at the momen
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: FireTom
PS: I take back the "MF" - haven't met this guy, yet.
Give me a lever long enough and a place to stand and I can beat the world into submission.
Written by: Doc Lightning to Stone
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I'm sorry, but I don't think I can have this conversation with you because you aren't making any sense. I've thrown three arguments at you.
1) Israel is not the solely culpable party here.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: Doc Lightning
So...
Does anyone here actually have a PRACTICAL solution to the PROBLEM AT HAND other than a wall?
Again: we've done "talks" and "diplomacy" and what-not up the wazoo.
Unilateral disarmament is also not an option. Israel isn't "backing down."
Now let's remember what a "solution" entails. It means 1) Israel no longer needs to attack Hamas or Fatah or Hezbollah. 2) Hezbollah/Hamas/whomever no longer attacks Israel.
Really, I can't think of anything other than a wall. And an agreement that if you fire a missile/bomb over the wall, then prepare to get walked all over.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
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The Bush administration has done no better on the Palestinian-Israeli front. Preoccupied with Iraq, Washington has effectively disengaged from the peace process. The Bush team not only abandoned Bill Clinton's diplomatic efforts, but also derided them as naïve and ineffectual. But for all its faults, Clinton's diplomacy sustained a process of reconciliation that kept an uneasy peace. Since the inception of Israel in 1948, every decade has been plagued by an Arab-Israeli war - except the 1990s.
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
Written by: onewheeldave
Where talks and diplomacy are concerned, the fact that they haven't worked yet is no reason to give up on them.
In the UK we had multiple refusals to talk with the IRA terrorists and multiple 'failures' of talks; problems involving terrorists are not easy or quick to resolve.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
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