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Location: Brisbane, Qld, Australia
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Heyas all...
I was just wondering, how many people here have/are suffered/ing from panic attacks? The point was touched upon in Cannabis Psychosis... and I guess its really heartening to hear about other ppl having experienced this. (I wouldn't wish them on anyone though, don't get me wrong).
Ummmm... if you have... or do... how'd you get rid of them? Well..learn to cope I guess would be a better phrase.
I'd seriously love to hear some thoughts about this... PM me if you don't wanna talk about it here?
Kay... my OWN experience has been for the past couple of years. I thought they'd go away completely when I stopped smoking ganja- but they haven't. They don't worry me as much as they used to - I read somewhere it affects $1.6 million Americans (God knows how many ppl in Oz or anywhere else) That to me seems to make it a really popular thing to be afflicted with (oh YAY ) But for a while I was worried about them cos I thought they were a weird/abnormal/life-threatening ailment.
Anyways... any feedback is SOOO appreciated.
Heyas all...
I was just wondering, how many people here have/are suffered/ing from panic attacks? The point was touched upon in Cannabis Psychosis... and I guess its really heartening to hear about other ppl having experienced this. (I wouldn't wish them on anyone though, don't get me wrong).
Ummmm... if you have... or do... how'd you get rid of them? Well..learn to cope I guess would be a better phrase.
I'd seriously love to hear some thoughts about this... PM me if you don't wanna talk about it here?
Kay... my OWN experience has been for the past couple of years. I thought they'd go away completely when I stopped smoking ganja- but they haven't. They don't worry me as much as they used to - I read somewhere it affects $1.6 million Americans (God knows how many ppl in Oz or anywhere else) That to me seems to make it a really popular thing to be afflicted with (oh YAY ) But for a while I was worried about them cos I thought they were a weird/abnormal/life-threatening ailment.
Anyways... any feedback is SOOO appreciated.
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Location: Mpls, MN, USA
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Location: Mpls, MN, USA
Posted:
Personally I don't know much about panic attacks, though a while back I got ahold of this link somehow, don't know if it's of any help but I hope it is:
panic attack info
Personally I don't know much about panic attacks, though a while back I got ahold of this link somehow, don't know if it's of any help but I hope it is:
panic attack info
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I have never had drug-induced panic attacks, but I did suffer from a bout of clinical depression last year that included panic attacks.
I think my boss was going through her own minor psychosis, but she had me so worked up with me not knowing when she was going to explode, that I was in a constant state of hyper alertness. That brought on panic attacks. I would just sit at my desk frozen, unable to think, other than "I am in deep shit".
As to solving the problem, whether it is drug-induced or not, you need help. The chemical wiring in your mind has gone a little awry, and it is very hard to solve that problem on your own. The solution for me involved anti-depressants and counselling, the solution for you may just involve counselling and developing strategies to prevent the panic attacks.
Whatever it is, you don't have to solve this on your own. And, no matter what you may fear, good counsellors are not judgemental about the source of the problem.
I have never had drug-induced panic attacks, but I did suffer from a bout of clinical depression last year that included panic attacks.
I think my boss was going through her own minor psychosis, but she had me so worked up with me not knowing when she was going to explode, that I was in a constant state of hyper alertness. That brought on panic attacks. I would just sit at my desk frozen, unable to think, other than "I am in deep shit".
As to solving the problem, whether it is drug-induced or not, you need help. The chemical wiring in your mind has gone a little awry, and it is very hard to solve that problem on your own. The solution for me involved anti-depressants and counselling, the solution for you may just involve counselling and developing strategies to prevent the panic attacks.
Whatever it is, you don't have to solve this on your own. And, no matter what you may fear, good counsellors are not judgemental about the source of the problem.
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Location: Brisbane, Qld, Australia
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Wow..thanks guys... muchly helpful...
Rozi you made me feel human again! Actually... not sure if this a good or bad thing
Nah j/k..thank you
Wow..thanks guys... muchly helpful...
Rozi you made me feel human again! Actually... not sure if this a good or bad thing
Nah j/k..thank you
The beautiful thing about learning is that no one can take it away from you.- B.B.King
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wish i could help, yet little dumb me knows nothing about this one. have a hug from me though .
wish i could help, yet little dumb me knows nothing about this one. have a hug from me though .
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Posted:
I used to get them a year or 2 ago and I know how frightening they are. Probably the most frighening experiences of my life.
I hardly, if ever get them anymore and when I do I'm able to calm myself jut by know for a fact that I'm not about to die, cause the doctor said so.
I managed to get rid of them through councilling and giving the hard drugs and booze a rest. I my mind they're just you heads way of telling you your asking a bit too much of it.
Treat what's causing them, not the symptoms of them. Anything destressing (exercise, meditation, councilling)has to be a good thing.
Just remember they can't hurt you.
I used to get them a year or 2 ago and I know how frightening they are. Probably the most frighening experiences of my life.
I hardly, if ever get them anymore and when I do I'm able to calm myself jut by know for a fact that I'm not about to die, cause the doctor said so.
I managed to get rid of them through councilling and giving the hard drugs and booze a rest. I my mind they're just you heads way of telling you your asking a bit too much of it.
Treat what's causing them, not the symptoms of them. Anything destressing (exercise, meditation, councilling)has to be a good thing.
Just remember they can't hurt you.
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Panic attacks are a somewhat common condition. They may be started by drug use, but they don't track with the drug that sparked them off and they may continue for some time after you stop using that drug.
Panic attacks are nothing to be ashamed of, and it is unfortunate that they have the name that they do. It makes patients sound like whiny, wound-up, wimps rather than people with a real neurological condition. I would call them something else, like "cardiopulmonary dysrhythmias." But the name "panic attack" has stuck.
I had a professor who told us about when he had a panic attack. He's a cardiologist and he was absolutely convinced that he was having a heart attack.
Medical therapies like tranquilizers can help, but they have side-effects. I recommend that, in addition to any medical therapy you undergo, you take part in yoga and/or other sorts of meditation. These can give you the tools you need to manage an attack.
and !
Panic attacks are a somewhat common condition. They may be started by drug use, but they don't track with the drug that sparked them off and they may continue for some time after you stop using that drug.
Panic attacks are nothing to be ashamed of, and it is unfortunate that they have the name that they do. It makes patients sound like whiny, wound-up, wimps rather than people with a real neurological condition. I would call them something else, like "cardiopulmonary dysrhythmias." But the name "panic attack" has stuck.
I had a professor who told us about when he had a panic attack. He's a cardiologist and he was absolutely convinced that he was having a heart attack.
Medical therapies like tranquilizers can help, but they have side-effects. I recommend that, in addition to any medical therapy you undergo, you take part in yoga and/or other sorts of meditation. These can give you the tools you need to manage an attack.
and !
-Mike
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I don't know if this is any help or if I'm just being a twat but sometimes I think these sort of mental episodes are quite possitive. I go very low often in the winter, I'm actually doing allright this year but most recent years I've spent a while tripped out in a box thinking about dieing and all that. I had a little bout last night which is why I'm posting I'd been smoking allot and went to bed thinking about the pain I've had in my abdomen for a little while, anyway I managed to convince my self I could feel a cancerous lump in there somewhere and for the first time in ages I looked up at the celling and thought "I'm dying" I know its cheesy but it gives you a little more reality some times. I think the wierdest thing when you are properly in a head mess is realising that you will change and you will get out of it but it happens in the end.
I don't know if this is any help or if I'm just being a twat but sometimes I think these sort of mental episodes are quite possitive. I go very low often in the winter, I'm actually doing allright this year but most recent years I've spent a while tripped out in a box thinking about dieing and all that. I had a little bout last night which is why I'm posting I'd been smoking allot and went to bed thinking about the pain I've had in my abdomen for a little while, anyway I managed to convince my self I could feel a cancerous lump in there somewhere and for the first time in ages I looked up at the celling and thought "I'm dying" I know its cheesy but it gives you a little more reality some times. I think the wierdest thing when you are properly in a head mess is realising that you will change and you will get out of it but it happens in the end.
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Jello - nice website and lots of useful tips.
Unfortunately I've tried most of the things it mentions but I still go completely freaky every time I have to give a seminar. I'm now turning down freebie trips to international meetings (which are the BESTEST fun ) because I'll have to give a short talk at some point. How lame is that?
For me, the hardest bit is trying to remember to breathe, stop myself throwing up/passing out and keep myself from trying to climb up the walls - just too many things to concentrate on at once.
If anyone knows a sure-fire way of getting rid of the freakie-deakies, they'll be my most favourite person in the entire universe and I will buy them enough beer to swim in . Honest!
Jello - nice website and lots of useful tips.
Unfortunately I've tried most of the things it mentions but I still go completely freaky every time I have to give a seminar. I'm now turning down freebie trips to international meetings (which are the BESTEST fun ) because I'll have to give a short talk at some point. How lame is that?
For me, the hardest bit is trying to remember to breathe, stop myself throwing up/passing out and keep myself from trying to climb up the walls - just too many things to concentrate on at once.
If anyone knows a sure-fire way of getting rid of the freakie-deakies, they'll be my most favourite person in the entire universe and I will buy them enough beer to swim in . Honest!
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Mumma Hen
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I have suffered with panic attacks for the past year or so...Massive ones where I cant move and all I can think about is that Im dying and nothing can stop it....I have been having councilling and taking meds for it because they got so bad that I couldnt work and I was fully convinced that my brain thingo was back and I was gunna have to have brain surgery again.....
Dr Noodlehead, a really good way to over come it is to breathe slowly, the hyperventalation that is associated with a panic attack can make you feel worse because of the lack of oxygen in the body, which escalates the panic....
I breathe like this when I feel one coming on...BREATHE IN FOR 1,2,3 HOLD FOR 1,2,3, BREATHE OUT FOR 1,2,3 this improves how Im feeling straight away....then I remind my self that "This too shall pass" Hope that helps.
I have suffered with panic attacks for the past year or so...Massive ones where I cant move and all I can think about is that Im dying and nothing can stop it....I have been having councilling and taking meds for it because they got so bad that I couldnt work and I was fully convinced that my brain thingo was back and I was gunna have to have brain surgery again.....
Dr Noodlehead, a really good way to over come it is to breathe slowly, the hyperventalation that is associated with a panic attack can make you feel worse because of the lack of oxygen in the body, which escalates the panic....
I breathe like this when I feel one coming on...BREATHE IN FOR 1,2,3 HOLD FOR 1,2,3, BREATHE OUT FOR 1,2,3 this improves how Im feeling straight away....then I remind my self that "This too shall pass" Hope that helps.
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Just to add to that...practise meditation...its the answer.... Promise.
Just to add to that...practise meditation...its the answer.... Promise.
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
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valura's totally right, i got them about a year ago i never worked out whether it was coz of da evil weed or because i got beaten up. but yeah i did exactly what valura said and it really helped ive only one in the last 6 months and that was when i was walking down a dark alley in the middle of the night on my own which is just plain dumb of me!!
any ho' hope you feel masses better splat and we all love ya millions so....
valura's totally right, i got them about a year ago i never worked out whether it was coz of da evil weed or because i got beaten up. but yeah i did exactly what valura said and it really helped ive only one in the last 6 months and that was when i was walking down a dark alley in the middle of the night on my own which is just plain dumb of me!!
any ho' hope you feel masses better splat and we all love ya millions so....
i'll draw you a picture ill draw it with a twist ill draw it with a razorblade ill draw it on my wrist and if i do it right a red fountain will appear washing away my sorrow washing away my fear
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Hi Splat, big 's to you
Yeah panic attacks are probably one of the worst things you can experience because at the time it's very difficult to rationalise anything at all, let alone start to get yourself out of it.
Mine started because of taking too many drugs about 5 years ago now. It began because of paranoia basically, and to me true paranoia and panic are one and the same thing in this context. I was going to clubs and my body was telling me to pack it in because it had had enough and I wasn't willing at the time to listen. You have one paranoid experience and this can lead to panic very quickly. For me it was a MASSIVE internal feeling that EVERYTHING was somehow "wrong". I didn't know how it was wrong, but I certainly couldn't have felt worse if my life depended on it. Even started having dreams about a male entity trying to invade and completely control my mind - this scared me more than anything. Luckily at the time ignorance of this sort of thing was bliss (somewhat dressed in terror, but bliss none the less). Then I started having panic attacks when I wasn't on anything, and anti-depressants made it worse because i'd get up in the morning, stare at my dilated pupils and convince myself that they'd kicked off some kind of acid trip!
I don't get them anymore though, *touch wood; ground energy* haven't for years, so they can and will pass. All the advice so far is spot on, can't really say much more than that.
Love and light
Hi Splat, big 's to you
Yeah panic attacks are probably one of the worst things you can experience because at the time it's very difficult to rationalise anything at all, let alone start to get yourself out of it.
Mine started because of taking too many drugs about 5 years ago now. It began because of paranoia basically, and to me true paranoia and panic are one and the same thing in this context. I was going to clubs and my body was telling me to pack it in because it had had enough and I wasn't willing at the time to listen. You have one paranoid experience and this can lead to panic very quickly. For me it was a MASSIVE internal feeling that EVERYTHING was somehow "wrong". I didn't know how it was wrong, but I certainly couldn't have felt worse if my life depended on it. Even started having dreams about a male entity trying to invade and completely control my mind - this scared me more than anything. Luckily at the time ignorance of this sort of thing was bliss (somewhat dressed in terror, but bliss none the less). Then I started having panic attacks when I wasn't on anything, and anti-depressants made it worse because i'd get up in the morning, stare at my dilated pupils and convince myself that they'd kicked off some kind of acid trip!
I don't get them anymore though, *touch wood; ground energy* haven't for years, so they can and will pass. All the advice so far is spot on, can't really say much more than that.
Love and light
Who looks outside dreams; who looks inside wakes C G Jung
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You could try essential oils such as Frankincense, Neroli,Ylang Ylang and Melissa - these are all good for panic attacks,tachycardia and shock,so should help you to relax and encourage deep breathing. Hope this helps!
You could try essential oils such as Frankincense, Neroli,Ylang Ylang and Melissa - these are all good for panic attacks,tachycardia and shock,so should help you to relax and encourage deep breathing. Hope this helps!
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try incense sticks they hold the solution to alot of these sorts of problems. well thats whats worked for me
try incense sticks they hold the solution to alot of these sorts of problems. well thats whats worked for me
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um i wish i could help so much but i'll give youse a big ol' hairy hug instead.
find your happiness ... and exploit the hell out of it!
/reaches for s'more of that hazelnut chocolate
um i wish i could help so much but i'll give youse a big ol' hairy hug instead.
find your happiness ... and exploit the hell out of it!
/reaches for s'more of that hazelnut chocolate
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