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Posted: 9th Jan 2006
Hmmm...

Maybe extreme kiting and glow staff would be better?

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006
I second that motion...

Contact juggling was invented by dung beetles.

Posted: 9th Jan 2006

Written by: daeman

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i want to try an bring extreme kiting and fir staff together but at the moment im stuck on how to do this.

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I read that as extreme knitting and fire staff! Now that would be interesting
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Posted: 10th Jan 2006
SOunds far to dangerous to me. If the kite set on fire, you will have burning material everywhere... and if its a type of plastic it will melt onto your skin :/

Also if you lose control of the kite and it catches fire, it could travel anywhere causing untold amounts of havoc.

I say glowsticks for the win

anthrax.... it infects, then spreads..... fast

Posted: 10th Jan 2006
Looks dangerous indeed.

Posted: 11th Jan 2006
I hate to jump on the killjoy wagon, but that really doesn’t sound like a very good idea to me. Much too dangerous – both for people and property. The potential liability could be HUGE, and I very much doubt that your insurance would cover it – just as an example, what if the kite burnt through the strings and drifted into someone’s house or god forbid a person? You could get some cool stuff going with glow toys, though – those little light stick things they sell in the HOP shop as glow stick substitutes wouldn’t add much weight (although if you were thinking of attaching a staff then weight probably isn’t much of a concern) and are cheap enough to use lots – or you could just use glow sticks.

to live at all is miracle enough

Posted: 11th Jan 2006
"I hate to jump on the killjoy wagon"


Thats why i think you shoudl do it

How can you steer a kite (two handed) whilst holding a fire staff?
You cant, surely.
You would need one hand free, and even then, as you only have one hand, your range of movements would stop shortly after shotguns.

Unless you are talking about attatching a fire staff to the kite.
Which I think everyone has misunderstood.
Noone would be at stupid surely? (to attatch a firestaff to a kite, not to misunderstand what he said! )

Oh, and "If the kite set on fire," You do know how a kite works, right?

Posted: 11th Jan 2006
Capital idea there, project for this year then, fire kite, kevlar control strings, for the first 20 foot, light weight fire staff, just leaves finding a suitable fabric that will take a flame retardant, shouldn't be too difficult, actually there seem to be a range of pre proofed materials available for this,



Will keep you appraised of progress



mark

Posted: 11th Jan 2006
If you fly hooked into a seat harness - you can do basic staff trix / much like board trix - behing the back passes etc...... would be easier on water & safer



That way you could maintain good motion going along - for which you dont really need any / much hand control - that will then give you time to play with a stick.



Fire kites have been tried and tested - they work, just but for the material to be light enough to fly - it doesnt give much burn time at all......... let us know how it goes marco, id call you a nutter but id be a hipocrite



Fire staffing whilst being attached to a kite is most certanly possible, although i think motion is definatley needed - whether a land board or on water - that gives you the option of chucking in jumps easier to do other trix. Flying a kite being planted on ya feet would need too much hand control - unless you just keep the kite in the "safe zone" above your head, but you dont want to do that because it would just be boring

"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

Posted: 11th Jan 2006
dude....

This reminds me of a summers day in southampton, i didnt have fire, but i had stilts!! I was flying a small kite, 7m - in a nice 3-4 whilst on the highest setting of my large duras!!

It was such good fun, jumping and stuff, and my duras taking some of the impact.... but then i got silly, and decided: that my mountain board should come out.....

Ouch. there is nothing like it, speeding along, and then. stop, bang wallop!!

Ive got some kites/range of boards lets have a go....strugz? and oh yeah, f~ck the zenith!!

passing through, this world still lives.

Posted: 11th Jan 2006
swap the control bar for a staff, light the ends, and then use the air time you get, to move yourself around the staff (control bar) thus performing moves, the matrix could be fun!



And..... if you did it with a strongish say 3-4 offshore wind, on the beach or sea, then its safe as houses.. the kite would just burn up, and hit the sea......



LEts go!!

passing through, this world still lives.

Posted: 11th Jan 2006


matrix - never!

But i like the idea of an oversized staff control bar - but then you cant move it much

mmmmmm

I must stop wasting time thinking about this - i have far more important things to be getting on with

**Goes back to "play" **

"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

Posted: 11th Jan 2006


Have fun lads

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Posted: 11th Jan 2006
hey there is nowere better to test than ireland!

Large amounts of water all around! whos putting us up?

Though if ur kitesurfing and going downwind, and u have the brake line all the way out, and hitting the limit, the kite will fly normaly without any hands on the bar...

Allowing you to spin a stick, still, limited moves cause u have a line coming from your waist out to the bar....

Why not 2's up? anyone wanna stand on my shoulders? lets get a fat kite! kinda like the waterski displays where they build triangles and stuff!? lol

passing through, this world still lives.

Posted: 11th Jan 2006
Oh, pick us!!

Lol... unless you have a better offer

Hehehe. You are most welcome, as you know.

Also, we know the people who run the kite shop here and could sort you out with good sites (though, Phil and Liz are about to move to somewhere warm and Caribbean sounding soon).

Lisa and I, however, will probably be huddled in a warm pub laughing heartily as a strong gust of cold Atlantic air sends you hurtling down the beach. Fools.

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Posted: 11th Jan 2006
all good points people guess for now ill have to leave the idea as an idea until something more feesable comes up. keep thinking though im sure we can come up wit something that will work sooner or later

Posted: 11th Jan 2006
Have I misunderstood? I was picturing some sort of fire/kite extravaganza going on overhead. But even so, I don't really see how you'd control a big kite and a staff at the same time, and I'd be scared of burning through the strings, espcially if it's an expensive kite. But who knows?

to live at all is miracle enough

Posted: 11th Jan 2006
my original idea was to maybe have a hollow tube on a traction kite filled wit paraffin with burners sticking a foot out from the kite material and performing an earial display

Posted: 23rd Jan 2006
I'd say to dangerous and would not advise it as your more likely to set fire to the kite. I would go with glowsticks, cheap and affective.
Also a big Kite twirling around leaving fire trails as it goes would be great to see but I'm not sure the police or fire service would be very happy with you due to the dangers involved.

To play it safe is not to play

Posted: 24th Jan 2006
thanks for the feadback everybody i guess it was a crazy dream that will never come to fruition oh well on to the next crazy idea