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AnonymousPLATINUM Member


Posted:
Well guys. there is so many different types of threads that sorta tackle this issue and that issue but i reckon that maybe we just have one that possibly just covers them all.

There are so many things going on around us in this world it can get a little crazy and sometimes i find that if you can get i out of your system into a format that allows you to return and read what you've written, sometimes you can pick up on little bits and pieces that you never knew about yourself and you can change how it is you feel about something.

the key to all this though i think is not to think that just becuase your rant is about something that may seem small to others but is huge to you, that it's not important. big things grow from the tiniest seed. it's how you nurture that growth that's important.

anywho....if this thread is needed then it'll take off and hopefully help some people out. if it's not needed it'll just fade away and that will be that. you're all beautiful and i thank the brisbane crew for being such a shining light in so many peoples lives.

onewheeldaveGOLD Member
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Posted:
My rant is that threads like this get started in 'discussion' when they should clearly be in 'chat'.

"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

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"Last of The Lancers"
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AnonymousPLATINUM Member


Posted:
i feel it's alright in discussion due to the fact that more than likely the points are going to be discussed and some sort of conclusion brought about. each to their own. everyone is different.

whhen i think about it...who cares. if someone finds it and finds it useful who cares where it is.

onewheeldaveGOLD Member
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Posted:
You asked for rants- it just so happens that the thing that's most pi**ing me off at this moment in time is misuse of this board, with people posting threads that don't belong here, changing the titles of those that do, etc, etc.

This thread does not, IMO, belong here- this part of the board is for serious discussion on specific issues, not 'ranting'.

So, in answer to your question- I care.

"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

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"Last of The Lancers"
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roarfireSILVER Member
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Posted:
Hey inspired_by_fire, I think this is very thoughtful and caring of you to start a thread like this. You're giving people an opportunity to speak up and reach out if they need to. hug



onewheeldave:



For someone who believes it's rude telling people to do a search, this seems just as rude.



I'm sorry, but a lot of people have issues they feel they need to express. For some people this is the only place people they feel comfortable reaching out in. Understandably, this is a beautiful place filled with lots of lovely and supportive people who are willing to help. However, unfortunately due to the amount of rubbish game and pointless posts over in the social chat, these posts sink to the bottom quite quickly, never to be seen again and because of this, people don't recieve the support or guidance they might need.



My rant is that I'm getting a little sick of forum members asserting authority on what's right and intentionally or unintentionally putting others down. I'm not just talking about you, but it's been happening a lot lately and it just so happens that now I've been driven enough to the point to speak up about it.



It's the moderators job to move or delete posts.



In saying that, if the moderator's want to move or delete this thread then so be it. I don't mind. I just get a little frustrated when people are belitted because they may have made a mistake in others eyes.

.All things are beautiful if we take the time to look.


onewheeldaveGOLD Member
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Posted:
I'm expressing my opinion.

If chats getting bogged down by, as you put it, 'rubbish games and pointless threads' then I'd prefer that those who care about it, endeavour to resolve the problem; rather than putting 'chat' threads in 'discussion'.

If people want to express their issues, then they are welcome to do so, and, if those issues come under the category of serious discussion, they they're welcome to start a thread here.

Which is, of course, exactly what happens, hence the huge number of threads in this part of the board.

However 'this is the rant thread. you know what to do' is not, IMO, relevant to that- it's blatantly (IMO) a 'chat' thread.

"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


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AnonymousPLATINUM Member


Posted:
it would seem that there is a discussion going on.

look onwheeldave. if you dont like the thread and it's placement then that's fine mate. but you are missing the entire point of starting it in the 1st place. if the moderators come forward and ask em to move it then i dont have a problem. but it;s for people who feel they want to have a rant or would like to discuss "anything". it's not limited to field and or section. it's just about getting it out there.

when you understand that maybe you will...understand.

AnonymousPLATINUM Member


Posted:
i do see your point about it's placement though onewheeldave. but to be quite honest it's placement is through ignorance. i only have about 70 posts and hardly come on here. just trying to help mate.

onewheeldaveGOLD Member
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Posted:
Written by: roarfire



My rant is that I'm getting a little sick of forum members asserting authority on what's right and intentionally or unintentionally putting others down. I'm not just talking about you, but it's been happening a lot lately and it just so happens that now I've been driven enough to the point to speak up about it.

It's the moderators job to move or delete posts.






It is their job, and I'm not trying to do it, ie i'm not moving or deleting it, just expressing my opinion that its in the wrong place.

The mods tend to be very busy and have requested on numerous occasions that the community, to an extent, moderates itself, by posting according to board guidelines, using the 'notify' button etc.

I appreciate that you're getting sick of what you see as bullying- I hope you'll also appreciate that I'm getting sick of seeing so much innapropriate posting of late, on a board that I'm quite fond of.

inspired_by_fire; sorry if my post seemed rude, it wasn't intended- i just seriously think that its in the wrong place- any particular serius issue is welcome here, its just that this seems to be a thread inviting random rants about whatever is on someones mind at that moment.

"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


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AnonymousPLATINUM Member


Posted:
maybe you could see to it that things are placed in the right spot? being serious. perhaps contact the moderators and see if you can do something about it?

AnonymousPLATINUM Member


Posted:
hey that's cool as mate. like i said nothing that is big to you should be overlooked. i'll thumb about and find out how to move it to the right spot. biggrin it's all good.

onewheeldaveGOLD Member
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Posted:
No man; I'm feeling bad now smile

leave it where it is- I was probably out-of-order; sorry.

"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

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"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


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AnonymousPLATINUM Member


Posted:
never feel bad for expressing yourself about something that rides you. that's the essence of what i'm getting at. while it now seems fickle to you you still got it out and will perhaps make others aware of where they are posting and the like. it's a good outcome to be honest. nothing is ever too small to be of no importance. it's the little things in life that make it worthwhile. thanks for kicking off. couldn't have asked for anything better.

StoneGOLD Member
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Posted:
I’m often up for a rant rolleyes though usually on a specific topic. To me, a rant in discussion is different to a rant in chat. My rant in discussion being way more serious than my rant in chat *cough*

Anyhow, if I’m in a hurry I might skip chat altogether. Though, not suprisingly I can usually find the time for a rant in discussion. Now, I’ve forgotten what I was going to rant about.

Hmmm, working already smile


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StoutBRONZE Member
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Posted:
I see a rant in discussion as a bullying tactic aimed at ending that discussion on the point the ranter wants to get across.

We're all adults here, not politicians

Fine_Rabid_DogInternet Hate Machine
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Posted:
There's already a six page thread with this sorta stuff.... in social chat though.



I reckon this should stay here though. Generally, stuff in discussion gets much better responses than those in chat (where all you really get is "Awwww hugs" rolleyes wink ).
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MikeGinnyGOLD Member
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Posted:
I'm going to use this. I think the rant thread in social can be about "my idiot boyfriend..." stuff.

So here's my rant:

"If you don't behave, the doctor's going to give you a shot!" "If you don't shape up, I'm going to have that police officer arrest you!"

1) I am the child's pediatrician, not the child's disciplinarian. I do not use medical procedures as punishment (um...usually :o ) and I do not appreciate being made into the bad guy. I want the child to trust me. I will warn the child if I am going to do anything that hurts. Half the reason kids are scared of the doctor is because of the shots and taunting a child with shots is inappropriate, mean, and counter-productive to the child's healthcare.

2) The police officer is not evil. Kids need to know that they can go to the police, ESPECIALLY if they feel they've done something "bad" (like just having been molested).

3) Since when was it OK to discipline children with empty threats?

Neither the cop nor the doctor is the friggin' bogeyman! Discipline your own damned kids, don't drag me into it!

soapbox

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



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KyrianDreamer
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Posted:
FRD, your link is broken. There is indeed a thread in social chat tho, which people have been ranting and hugging and giving advice on... and i'd say it serves that sort of purpose, but mike's found a good one for this one, apparently....

I feel like ranting about the american health care system and the idiotic things they do, but I'll shut my mouth and move on now....

Keep your dream alive
Dreamin is still how the strong survive

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AnonymousPLATINUM Member


Posted:
ok well i have one.

sometimes you think" i'll just do something for someone and i hope they appreciate it". in this instance it's this thread. thought it might be interesting to see how you guys reacted to this and have it as a way of a public diary of sorts. i mean you choose what goes into it and possibly it'd be good to get some feedback on certain topics.

all most people..and i said most people...have done is complain it's in the wrong spot...or someone else has done it or something that degree. in all honesty i dont really care if it's in the wrong spot or someone else has done it. it's not the essence of what i was trying to achieve. basically i see a lot of hugs and awww's as mentioned before. i would like to see discussion on a topic. take doc lightning, his rant is about parents using someone in their professional environment as some sort of a threat and it's wrong. brings to my attention that when you do threaten a child with that sort of thing then yeah..you are damaging the trust between doctor and patient and it may grow later on. it'll make me think twice before i say something silly to a child that may damage their perception.

if you dont like the thread then so be it. i really dont want to hear about that.

AnonymousPLATINUM Member


Posted:
i totally agree with you though doc. it's so important now days to be careful with kids. it seems as the generations go by we become that little bit softer in some ways and you really need to be careful. perhaps not softer?? maybe just a little more aware?

parents have a duty of care though and a lot of the time from what i see the kids are being left to watch as much telly as they want and just run amok due to labels for behaviour. read an email the other day about how you used to go to your mates house at 7am and not come home till dark. we used to play in the streets because it was safe. accidents still happened. like when you skinned a knee or broke something it was an accident. noone elses fault. just yours. (unless you were pushed) hahaha. no suing and the rest. seems as thought we just want to offload responsibility onto others becuase it's easier perhaps?

just my thoughts. anyone else got some theories?

onewheeldaveGOLD Member
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Posted:
I'm not sure it ever was actually safer- I just think it wasn't as well publicised.



These days we have perverts who prey on children; I'm sure that it happened just as often in the old days- it just wasn't as openly talked about.



We hear how much more violence there is these days; but a little research in the gangs in sheffield in the 1920's make it clear that there has always been extreme street violence.



As for the suing mentality- there was a thread on that which would be worth a look (if anyone's interested I can find it), and it addressed some myths about it- it can be argued that, on the whole, at least as much good, as bad, comes out of the 'suing' culture.

"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!


AnonymousPLATINUM Member


Posted:
yeah i'd be keen on that thanks onewheeldave. would like to see what it is i'm talking about. hahaha.

doc. i'd like to hear a little more on your perception of parents and responibilities in today's world. i'm guessing you'd see a lot more of it than most of us. i think your topic is one that is seldom addressed. onnly if you have the time though mate.

MikeGinnyGOLD Member
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Posted:
Where I work, the biggest responsibility these parents could show is to NOT FRIGGIN' HAVE KIDS!

Newborn I saw today was born to a 21yo woman who has had her third child (oldest is five...you do the math). The father is in Jamaica. Why, do you ask? Well, he was visiting New York with friends. Met mom in a club. This child is the product of a 1-night stand.

Really, folks. Condoms. Pill. IUD. Something.

-Mike

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A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


KyrianDreamer
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Posted:
yeah, somehow i've managed not to have any children, how hard can it be eh?

tongue

ubbangel

Parents tend to suck at disciplining though. I really don't know how to fix that one. Even "good" parents from "good" places don't understand hwo to raise children often, and often raise ridiculous idiots, albeit ridiculous overweight idiots with a fair bit of money....

ibf, if you'll read the site rules/faqs you'll see that it is important that we not keep duplicating threads and we keep them in the right place. The idea is to make the community meaningful and welcoming, if you have any further question on that they may be better directed to a moderator who could explain stuff better. Actual attitude taken about "policing" varies from person to person of course. And admittedly the search has been uber buggy lately.

Written by:


" i'll just do something for someone and i hope they appreciate it"




Well, if they don't, is it their fault? You can't force things on people... perhaps a pet peeve of mine is when i'm forced to "like" something i don't. This thread fails to be an example of that, but I can think of a lot of times I was supposed to be happy someone did something and I really didn't want them to have done it...

Written by:


if you dont like the thread then so be it. i really dont want to hear about that.




Ok, well, then don't listen. People have a right to talk... and particuarly in a forum like this where we're trying to do certain things like save bandwidth and not overcrowd.
But I don't think anyone even said they didn't like it. I did read all the bantering that makes up most of this thread, and it seems they were just letting you know (perhaps a bit harshly but nonetheless) that you were duplicating/being out of place as no-one had quite figured out what you were on about yet... thats really not the same thing.

You might edit the first post to make it more clear, and let people know that there's something on it now besides you and OWD et all arguing.... might make it more friendly
Although ultimately, it may be the case that discussions about rants happen best in their own threads. I suppose we;ll see.

Personally, I hate it that people can't face reality. And I'm really not sure why people prefer to live in illusions rather than living in the real world.....

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Posted:
I'm sick of people having stupid pointless arguments on forums.

jeff(fake)Scientist of Fortune
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Posted:
Written by: PsyRush


I'm sick of people having stupid pointless arguments on forums.



I'm not biggrin

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newgabeSILVER Member
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Posted:
I like the idea of a rant thread in discussions.. .like for serious things that really bug you. Mind I have been getting braver about saying that things bug me in other threads too. Like misattributing nice enough motivation poems to 'important' 'famous' world figures to give them more credibility. But my main utter rant these days has to be our government. Which is spending something like $100 million dollars on an advertising campaign about their new employment policies.. none of which actually gives any details to base a serious decision on. And which has laws now that allow street performers to be arrested, held in solitary confinement then deported. They terrify me, these self righteous nasty people, which surely makes THEM the terrorists. THis is a mixed rant. Now I am going back to tidying my office

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AnonymousPLATINUM Member


Posted:
if someone will please let me know how to shut this down i would be most appreciative. it seems as though only a few are clearly getting the message and i dont know if that's due to my lack of explanation or just that it is what it is.

as for telling you what to like that is not the case. if you got offended by that i do appologise but you should read the thread with a level head. dont just pick misread info out and attack back with it trying to prove a petty point to strengthen an argument that doesn't really need to happen in the 1st place. selecting snippets and voicing your own personal view as means of a group mentality clearly isnt the way also. while i respect your opinion coming from yourself Kyrian i dont appreciate the context in which you have used it. my meaning was that i'd rather hear about things that people are annoyed about or want to rant about as opposed to complaining about the threads placement which clearly isn't the reason it was up in the 1st place. i can see that it was lacking an explanation now but at the time it made sense. i wont appologise for that. that is clearly an error and being human like yourself i'm sure you understand the innner workings of making an honest mistake.

as for placement, i am guilty and you do have a point about bandwith and the like and i do appologise for that. next time i shall be a little wiser as to how where and when i place a thread.

while you may think that pulling down the thread is a little drastic and i may be overreacting i am just a little annoyed as to the amount of complaining going on about the thread itself as i thought that i was creating somewhat of an outlet for people which i have in some cases but just in the wrong place.

so in all honesty i'd like it if someone could inform me of how to pull the thread down due to possible duplications on other parts of this site. i personally dont really want to hear about how i've said something wrong in this reply and have offended some anal retentive thread nazi. just instructions to pull it down would be fine . thankyou.

newgabeSILVER Member
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Posted:
IBF, if you really want it closed down, Click on the exclamation mark in the triangle at the bottom of any post (in'post extras') and send a message to a moderator.

However I think this thread is possibly just finding it's feet. And considering that you are asking people to let their hair down about things they take seriously, it is perhaps just a bit of parallel process that that's what's happened.

I found myself thinking about some of the issues people have raised here today when I was out, so , um, sya it again, I think it's useful.

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BirgitBRONZE Member
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Posted:
People Who Install Computer Updates And Mess Everything Up.

First someone tries to connect the office computers to the network, uses a password to do that and unclicks "remember password". It's not like I didn't mention it was a bad idea to NOT tell us the network password and NOT save it either. Had to come back in later...

Then there's an update on the software for our microscope, and as a result of this it's not working anymore, and neither is Windows (it's stuck in the installation prompt and won't let you cancel... )

I'm most annoyed. Why don't people test the stuff they install before they leave?

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AnonymousPLATINUM Member


Posted:
i think because it's fun for them to sit at home and wonder if anyone has gone back to fix it yet. otherwise they are just like me and shouldn't be doing the job theya re asked to to just being plain daft. haha.

NG...perhaps you're right. if anything i may just move it. the reason i put up this sort of thread is becuase sometimes you can read something that someone else has said and go..oh yeah...you too huh? and have a discussion about it. if we can perhaps agree to disagree and worry about the problems bigger then the placement of the thread thus far...then we should get this thing cranking in the right direction.

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