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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:
id like to say that this **is** a reaction to various posts on social chat, and would like to voice my opinion here in as an adult manner as i can manage
firstly i fail (slightly) to see many of the arguments against post whoring - the bandwidth argument especailly correct me if im wrong but ultimatly the bandwidth for the actual forums will not be exessivly affected by the addition of a post - even several 1000 posts - i mean whats the size of a post? a matter of Kb if that even 1000 of those is only 10Mb and while i know there are several hundred thousand posts that still does not even begin to touch the kind of bandwidth a site like this runs on.
on a similar vein arguing that pm's should be used will not save bandwidth - the messages are still stored though pm's should be used for other reasons - such as basically personal conversations
i agree that repeated posting is a waste of space and makes many threads unreadable - although i am guilty of doing this on occasion - so does having ream upon ream of people exactly the same thing
its often said that post whores take up a lot of the bandwidth space *but* as far as i can see at least they tend to say something new. so many otherwise interesting discussions and topics get flooded by people repeating the same points.
and i release im probably going to get accused of flamming for this. accused of being an idiot but seriously - how much damage does a silly thread do? ok threads started for the hell of having a thread are a waste, so tell a mod and have it deleted. but dont just yell at people who post a lot. try making a thread and then keep people on topic - its not just the mods who can moderate a forum - if you have one keep the conversation going and change the direction
but if you have a forum called social chat - dont you think people will?
ok so thats the end of this and i know it sounds like a rant so please take whats said with a pinch of salt and not as a personal insult
also any PM's asking for this to me removed etc (or just general insults) please head - post whore - so i know and for my own amusment
finally where do you fall?
id like to say that this **is** a reaction to various posts on social chat, and would like to voice my opinion here in as an adult manner as i can manage
firstly i fail (slightly) to see many of the arguments against post whoring - the bandwidth argument especailly correct me if im wrong but ultimatly the bandwidth for the actual forums will not be exessivly affected by the addition of a post - even several 1000 posts - i mean whats the size of a post? a matter of Kb if that even 1000 of those is only 10Mb and while i know there are several hundred thousand posts that still does not even begin to touch the kind of bandwidth a site like this runs on.
on a similar vein arguing that pm's should be used will not save bandwidth - the messages are still stored though pm's should be used for other reasons - such as basically personal conversations
i agree that repeated posting is a waste of space and makes many threads unreadable - although i am guilty of doing this on occasion - so does having ream upon ream of people exactly the same thing
its often said that post whores take up a lot of the bandwidth space *but* as far as i can see at least they tend to say something new. so many otherwise interesting discussions and topics get flooded by people repeating the same points.
and i release im probably going to get accused of flamming for this. accused of being an idiot but seriously - how much damage does a silly thread do? ok threads started for the hell of having a thread are a waste, so tell a mod and have it deleted. but dont just yell at people who post a lot. try making a thread and then keep people on topic - its not just the mods who can moderate a forum - if you have one keep the conversation going and change the direction
but if you have a forum called social chat - dont you think people will?
ok so thats the end of this and i know it sounds like a rant so please take whats said with a pinch of salt and not as a personal insult
also any PM's asking for this to me removed etc (or just general insults) please head - post whore - so i know and for my own amusment
finally where do you fall?
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:
yay doc
and 
and to seye i liked your reply too 
EDITED_BY: linden rathen (1123797632)
yay doc
and and
to seye i liked your reply too EDITED_BY: linden rathen (1123797632)
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HOP Mad Doctor
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Posted:
Ok. Excuse me. I'm going to say something that sounds arrogant and probably downright rude.
As one of the most senior members of this board (meaning how long I've been involved), people who get their knickers in a twist over talkative newbies need to TAKE A FRIGGIN' PILL. I mean, people just posting to post and not contributing are one thing, but, my view: if you're contributing to what makes this a wonderful community, then come right in, pull up a beanbag, grab a pair of poi, and join the fray!
It's a community, after all. People come and they go. I'm just happy to see people getting involved. And, by all means, newbies, feel free to PM me with random daftness. Don't be afraid. After all, it's all in good fun.
-Doc "I'm not a legend, I'm just *OLD*" Lightning
Written by: flid
Some people take things like forums really seriously, perhaps a little too much, and get really pissed off when new people move in and act like they own the place/challenging the existing status-quo.
Ok. Excuse me. I'm going to say something that sounds arrogant and probably downright rude.
As one of the most senior members of this board (meaning how long I've been involved), people who get their knickers in a twist over talkative newbies need to TAKE A FRIGGIN' PILL. I mean, people just posting to post and not contributing are one thing, but, my view: if you're contributing to what makes this a wonderful community, then come right in, pull up a beanbag, grab a pair of poi, and join the fray!
It's a community, after all. People come and they go. I'm just happy to see people getting involved. And, by all means, newbies, feel free to PM me with random daftness. Don't be afraid. After all, it's all in good fun.
-Doc "I'm not a legend, I'm just *OLD*" Lightning
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: Bideford and Bath, United Kingdom
Posted:
i have now stopped posting so much as untill recently i was unaware it annoyed so many hoppers.
i have noticed in the last month how much social chat has changed though because for the first month i got here it was a much better place i feel than now when there is soo much pointlessness which i shamefully i admit i have taken part in. but i have also noticed that now it has gone from one extreem to another and people are afraid to say anything, and i have met so many great people on here that i do not want to lose hop and i would also like to meet many of the older hoppers who have been "scared off" from social chat and a few other threads by pointless posting. so i feel maybe in malcolms first pm he should warn the people because untill some one very recently had a polite word with me i was unaware i was annoying other hoppers and have now happily refrained from making some very pointless posts which i admitt to. i feel it is vr important that we keep this community as others have said because i have never in my life come across such a nice comunity as this.
i have now stopped posting so much as untill recently i was unaware it annoyed so many hoppers.
i have noticed in the last month how much social chat has changed though because for the first month i got here it was a much better place i feel than now when there is soo much pointlessness which i shamefully i admit i have taken part in. but i have also noticed that now it has gone from one extreem to another and people are afraid to say anything, and i have met so many great people on here that i do not want to lose hop and i would also like to meet many of the older hoppers who have been "scared off" from social chat and a few other threads by pointless posting. so i feel maybe in malcolms first pm he should warn the people because untill some one very recently had a polite word with me i was unaware i was annoying other hoppers and have now happily refrained from making some very pointless posts which i admitt to. i feel it is vr important that we keep this community as others have said because i have never in my life come across such a nice comunity as this.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:
*is interested to see that nearly as many ppl admit to having post whored as claim to have never post whored*
just before this debate goes much further
what is the general consesus of what a post whore is?
someone who posts a lot?
someone who posts rubbish?
something in between?
someone who posts repeatedly in the same few threads?
*is interested to see that nearly as many ppl admit to having post whored as claim to have never post whored*
just before this debate goes much further
what is the general consesus of what a post whore is?
someone who posts a lot?
someone who posts rubbish?
something in between?
someone who posts repeatedly in the same few threads?
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:
My little sentence wasn't refering to me personally, but you should know that what i said is true. Sure some people do need a reality check, but there's also lots of people out there using the net with disabilities of some description (physical or mental) or other things (shyness etc) that make it hard to interact in the normal world, and find the online world a great outlet. Perhaps such people do take things a little too seriously and get involved a bit too much which is really just a web server to which you can submit text that other people can read, but if we're talking of it in terms of a community then they're part of it too, and telling someone to just take a chill pill is about as constructive as telling someone with depression to just get over it and stop being so stupid.
I just thought i'd elaborate on it a bit more
Written by: Mike Ginny
Ok. Excuse me. I'm going to say something that sounds arrogant and probably downright rude.
My little sentence wasn't refering to me personally, but you should know that what i said is true. Sure some people do need a reality check, but there's also lots of people out there using the net with disabilities of some description (physical or mental) or other things (shyness etc) that make it hard to interact in the normal world, and find the online world a great outlet. Perhaps such people do take things a little too seriously and get involved a bit too much which is really just a web server to which you can submit text that other people can read, but if we're talking of it in terms of a community then they're part of it too, and telling someone to just take a chill pill is about as constructive as telling someone with depression to just get over it and stop being so stupid.
Written by: Seye
Flid - wasnt my answer about 'actual bandwidth consumption' good enough
I just thought i'd elaborate on it a bit more
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HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
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Im scared guys, im really worried our community is going to change so much cos of this, there is currently a lot of tension in cyberspace
Im scared guys, im really worried our community is going to change so much cos of this, there is currently a lot of tension in cyberspace
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HOP Mad Doctor
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HOP Mad Doctor
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Posted:
I know it had nothing to do with you, mate. And neither did my response.
Willy, the momentum's so great. It's not going to change.
And of course it will change. The more things change the more they stay the same.
Written by: flidWritten by: Mike Ginny
Ok. Excuse me. I'm going to say something that sounds arrogant and probably downright rude.
My little sentence wasn't refering to me personally, but you should know that what i said is true.
I know it had nothing to do with you, mate. And neither did my response.
Willy, the momentum's so great. It's not going to change.
And of course it will change. The more things change the more they stay the same.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:
it's ok, we'll all have a jolly good bonding session at play, perhaps even involving slapping each others arses. It'll all be good.
Worser things have happened on HoP before, thoughs on vegetarianism being one of them. And at least we haven't gotten as far as having to give someone their own entire forum to get them out of the normal threads again
Written by: Willyam
Im scared guys, im really worried our community is going to change so much cos of this, there is currently a lot of tension in cyberspace
it's ok, we'll all have a jolly good bonding session at play, perhaps even involving slapping each others arses. It'll all be good.
Worser things have happened on HoP before, thoughs on vegetarianism being one of them. And at least we haven't gotten as far as having to give someone their own entire forum to get them out of the normal threads again
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HOP Mad Doctor
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Posted:
Oh lordy, don't remind me. And that phule who kept blundering about.
Oh lordy, don't remind me. And that phule who kept blundering about.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
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HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
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what happened there, i trust that was before my time
what happened there, i trust that was before my time
An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind
Give a man a fish and he'll eat 4 a day hit a man with a brick and you can have all his fish and his wife
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Location: London, UK
Posted:
will i dout this will change much
if the responce on the chat thread is anything to go by what'll happen is it will expierence a few days of quiteness and then ersume posting as normal - hopefulyl a little more sensibly and a little less whorishly
this communities too strong to be brocken by something like this. people know eachother outside of it and know how people really are compared to on here. as such attitudes will change people will change but im sure the comminuty will stay strong
will i dout this will change much
if the responce on the chat thread is anything to go by what'll happen is it will expierence a few days of quiteness and then ersume posting as normal - hopefulyl a little more sensibly and a little less whorishly
this communities too strong to be brocken by something like this. people know eachother outside of it and know how people really are compared to on here. as such attitudes will change people will change but im sure the comminuty will stay strong
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Posted:
Hehe... even I've been around long enough to remember those tension-filled threads...
A good reminder, Flid. Although the pointless threads and post-whoring have been getting a little ridiculous, at least its not a nasty or vindictive atmosphere. Unintentional annoyances (I would assume, please correct me if I'm wrong, mods) are at least better to have to deal with than nastiness and HoP seems not to attract trolls like a lot of other online forums.
This is a happy thought
Hehe... even I've been around long enough to remember those tension-filled threads...
A good reminder, Flid. Although the pointless threads and post-whoring have been getting a little ridiculous, at least its not a nasty or vindictive atmosphere. Unintentional annoyances (I would assume, please correct me if I'm wrong, mods
) are at least better to have to deal with than nastiness and HoP seems not to attract trolls like a lot of other online forums.This is a happy thought
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:
like i said polythene i think the number of poinless threads is partly due to it being summer and wet so a lot of people (uni/school age) are stuck at home w/ poi on the brain and no where to go
like i said polythene i think the number of poinless threads is partly due to it being summer and wet so a lot of people (uni/school age) are stuck at home w/ poi on the brain and no where to go
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Geek
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Geek
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Posted:
Nothing ever changes - I've had this discussion loads of times as a mod.
One time even predates the Doc's registering on this board. (Server fee's were much more expensive back in those days too )
Once a community becomes huge (I'm member #18035!) its only natural that some people stay in certain forums more than others. What you need is a Random Gibbering forum that auto prunes old posts so it doesnt take up server space or slow down the SQL processes.
Nothing ever changes - I've had this discussion loads of times as a mod.
One time even predates the Doc's registering on this board. (Server fee's were much more expensive back in those days too
)Once a community becomes huge (I'm member #18035!) its only natural that some people stay in certain forums more than others. What you need is a Random Gibbering forum that auto prunes old posts so it doesnt take up server space or slow down the SQL processes.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:
i think most communities (espcially online ones) have a 'critical mass' (not of people or posts more strength of group interest
below which the group will probably fall apart in to many very small groups (say 1 or 2 people) as ive seen happen to a few chat rooms after fights
above which it will keep going loosing and gaining people fairly evenly
and yes i know this is off topic and socail physics which is pretty dodgy but it seems to work
anyway back on topic
any suggestions for a definition of a postwhore?
i think most communities (espcially online ones) have a 'critical mass' (not of people or posts more strength of group interest
below which the group will probably fall apart in to many very small groups (say 1 or 2 people) as ive seen happen to a few chat rooms after fights
above which it will keep going loosing and gaining people fairly evenly
and yes i know this is off topic and socail physics which is pretty dodgy but it seems to work
anyway back on topic
any suggestions for a definition of a postwhore?
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HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
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Posted:
i dont think we need a random gibbering forum at all
Written by: Seye
What you need is a Random Gibbering forum that auto prunes old posts so it doesnt take up server space or slow down the SQL processes.
i dont think we need a random gibbering forum at all
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Posted:
Sorry Linden, I was actually just really slow in replying to Flid's post, yours popped up while I was typing at tortoise speed! It was supposed to be saying 'it could be worse', not attacking the post whoring.
Although, (looking at Seye's post) I'm with Will on this one... while one or two random gibbering threads are fine, why on earth do we need an entire forum for identically nonsensical threads?
There are plenty of internet BBs about where every thread is full of random gibberings that Malcom doesn't pay for. If such a forum was to be introduced on HoP, I'd suggest it had to be subscribed to as an extra, with contributions to bandwidth. I wonder how many people would still want to start 50 threads about nothing at all if they had to pay for it themselves?
Sorry Linden, I was actually just really slow in replying to Flid's post, yours popped up while I was typing at tortoise speed! It was supposed to be saying 'it could be worse', not attacking the post whoring.
Although, (looking at Seye's post) I'm with Will on this one... while one or two random gibbering threads are fine, why on earth do we need an entire forum for identically nonsensical threads?
There are plenty of internet BBs about where every thread is full of random gibberings that Malcom doesn't pay for. If such a forum was to be introduced on HoP, I'd suggest it had to be subscribed to as an extra, with contributions to bandwidth. I wonder how many people would still want to start 50 threads about nothing at all if they had to pay for it themselves?
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:
I agree with the general concensus on post-whoring.
I only posting to add name to the list who've lost interest in Social Chat. I've been away from HOP ages and it's bit of a shock to my system... I was never one for the games but there's loads of them now too....
I agree with the general concensus on post-whoring.
I only posting to add name to the list who've lost interest in Social Chat. I've been away from HOP ages and it's bit of a shock to my system... I was never one for the games but there's loads of them now too....
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Flashpoint....I have to say, Cantus is a bad example for you to have chosen! All us "oldies" remember when he came on...he was HoP's first post-whore (and truthfully, the best at it!) and was competitive about it. He has, thankfully and wonderfully, mellowed out on that over time, but not without his fair share of having the mods on him. Ask him. I think it's funny and I am sure he'll fess up.
And truthfully, being "old" on here isn't an excuse Doc. I mean, look at Malcolm's count. In fact, many of us mods have been on here...well, longer than memory serves...and many new members far exceed us in counts, including you (keep in mind that several of us have been here since the late 90's when HoP was born, but then lost in the great transfer of 2000 ).
What is a post whore?
I concider it to be a person who posts excessively throughout a bb without actually creating posts with content (content being: contributing ideas, opinions or statements which add to a conversation, moving it forward.) usually with the intent to get a post count higher.
The point of social chat was not to have games or random gibberings. It was to talk about things that would not create a serious debate or a heavy discussion. Before the social forums were split, we had hellacious issues with people cracking jokes in an otherwise serious discussion, or hijacking a discussion someone wanted to be serious and turning it into something less than and it really caused issues. HoP was full of *much* more angst then, and has been more peaceful since the split. Yes it has gotten out of hand recently, but the games are labelled as such and that makes them easy to avoid. It is the "Give me a hug" threads that are just filled with graemlins, or the ones which are personal conversations, or filled with post after post of irrelevance, or started for irrelevence which we are concidering here.
And Willy, there really is nothing to worry about. This is such a small glitch in our peaceable kingdom compared to things that have happened in the past. HoP has had growing pains and they are truly not worth rehashing (as curious as flid and Doc's comments might make you) as they just stand to bring back some hard feelings that need not be thought of again. Really, it's all good..we just need to pull in the reigns a little is all.
Flashpoint....I have to say, Cantus is a bad example for you to have chosen! All us "oldies" remember when he came on...he was HoP's first post-whore (and truthfully, the best at it!) and was competitive about it. He has, thankfully and wonderfully, mellowed out on that over time, but not without his fair share of having the mods on him. Ask him. I think it's funny and I am sure he'll fess up.And truthfully, being "old" on here isn't an excuse Doc. I mean, look at Malcolm's count. In fact, many of us mods have been on here...well, longer than memory serves...and many new members far exceed us in counts, including you (keep in mind that several of us have been here since the late 90's when HoP was born, but then lost in the great transfer of 2000
). What is a post whore?
I concider it to be a person who posts excessively throughout a bb without actually creating posts with content (content being: contributing ideas, opinions or statements which add to a conversation, moving it forward.) usually with the intent to get a post count higher.
The point of social chat was not to have games or random gibberings. It was to talk about things that would not create a serious debate or a heavy discussion. Before the social forums were split, we had hellacious issues with people cracking jokes in an otherwise serious discussion, or hijacking a discussion someone wanted to be serious and turning it into something less than and it really caused issues. HoP was full of *much* more angst then, and has been more peaceful since the split. Yes it has gotten out of hand recently, but the games are labelled as such and that makes them easy to avoid. It is the "Give me a hug" threads that are just filled with graemlins, or the ones which are personal conversations, or filled with post after post of irrelevance, or started for irrelevence which we are concidering here.
And Willy, there really is nothing to worry about. This is such a small glitch in our peaceable kingdom compared to things that have happened in the past. HoP has had growing pains and they are truly not worth rehashing (as curious as flid and Doc's comments might make you) as they just stand to bring back some hard feelings that need not be thought of again. Really, it's all good..we just need to pull in the reigns a little is all.
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Posted:
I wholeheartedly agree. In the past, I have lost sleep over HOP forum issues, however the current issue really isn't a big deal at all. It's like when you're at school and the teacher keeps the whole class back 5mins for talking too much. No big deal.
Written by: Pele
And Willy, there really is nothing to worry about. This is such a small glitch in our peaceable kingdom compared to things that have happened in the past. HoP has had growing pains and they are truly not worth rehashing (as curious as flid and Doc's comments might make you) as they just stand to rehash some hard feelings that need not be thought of again. Really, it's all good..we just need to pull in the reigns a little is all.
I wholeheartedly agree. In the past, I have lost sleep over HOP forum issues, however the current issue really isn't a big deal at all. It's like when you're at school and the teacher keeps the whole class back 5mins for talking too much. No big deal.
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still can't believe it's not butter
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still can't believe it's not butter
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Posted:
there were worries too about what would happen to the culture on HoP when the level of cyberchatter necessitated the splitting of Social forum in two. Thing is, there's too many nice people here (and UCOF) and that in itself could be seen as an overriding drawcard.
Personally, i've never liked the term 'postwhore'
I understand the need for such a term, but surely there's less vulgar term available.
like 'fluffy puppies'
ahh that's so nice.
sorry pal, completely disagree with this sentiment.
Smileys have given me much-many serotonin bursts over the years, and I'd have to be the most frugal byte-counter to have them removed from the board entirely.
even if HoP could WAP, i'd want to see smilies added there too!
for effect:
there were worries too about what would happen to the culture on HoP when the level of cyberchatter necessitated the splitting of Social forum in two. Thing is, there's too many nice people here (and UCOF) and that in itself could be seen as an overriding drawcard.
Personally, i've never liked the term 'postwhore'
I understand the need for such a term, but surely there's less vulgar term available.
like 'fluffy puppies'
ahh that's so nice.
Written by: onewheeldave
Incidently, personally I'd love to see smilies removed from the board entirely- i use image blocking software when on HOP and the way it speeds up page loading really shows just how much bandwidth the smilies use up.
However, it's not something I'm going to particularly push for, as I know that the majority seem to think smilies are a really good idea.
sorry pal, completely disagree with this sentiment.
Smileys have given me much-many serotonin bursts over the years, and I'd have to be the most frugal byte-counter to have them removed from the board entirely.
even if HoP could WAP, i'd want to see smilies added there too!
for effect:
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HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
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Location: Staines, United Kingdom
Posted:
I muchly like that metaphor
Written by: flash fireWritten by: Pele
And Willy, there really is nothing to worry about. This is such a small glitch in our peaceable kingdom compared to things that have happened in the past. HoP has had growing pains and they are truly not worth rehashing (as curious as flid and Doc's comments might make you) as they just stand to rehash some hard feelings that need not be thought of again. Really, it's all good..we just need to pull in the reigns a little is all.
I wholeheartedly agree. In the past, I have lost sleep over HOP forum issues, however the current issue really isn't a big deal at all. It's like when you're at school and the teacher keeps the whole class back 5mins for talking too much. No big deal.
I muchly like that metaphor
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Posted:
I guess there's two types of people where smilies are concerned, those who actually get something from them, and those who tolerate them.
Possibly it's a similar distinction between those who think 'visually' and those who think in terms of 'hearing', and the way they respond better to different ways of phrasing information.
Whilst personally I don't understand how people can see any value in smilies, it's apparent to me that they do; equally I think it's good for those who do benefit from smilies also understand that some people get no benefit from them whatsoever.
I guess there's two types of people where smilies are concerned, those who actually get something from them, and those who tolerate them.
Possibly it's a similar distinction between those who think 'visually' and those who think in terms of 'hearing', and the way they respond better to different ways of phrasing information.
Whilst personally I don't understand how people can see any value in smilies, it's apparent to me that they do; equally I think it's good for those who do benefit from smilies also understand that some people get no benefit from them whatsoever.
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HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
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HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
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Location: Staines, United Kingdom
Posted:
I dont see how people dont get any benefit from smilies, i think they are great, especially the one
and like i said i think it denotes sarcasm where otherwise people wouldnt know the tone in which one was speaking e.g.
God i hate you, or
god i hate you
which one seems like your messing around?
I dont see how people dont get any benefit from smilies, i think they are great, especially the
oneand like i said i think it denotes sarcasm where otherwise people wouldnt know the tone in which one was speaking e.g.
God i hate you, or
god i hate you
which one seems like your messing around?
An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind
Give a man a fish and he'll eat 4 a day hit a man with a brick and you can have all his fish and his wife
"Will's to pretty for prison" - Simian
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old hand
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old hand
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Location: New Zealand
Posted:
I think the random gibbering forum is a great idea. After 1 month the thread gets deleted. I mean how much of this random stuff do people actually go back and read up on? Very little. It's just an instant buzz, then forgotten forever. I mean why go back and look at an old pointless thread when you can just make a new one in minutes?
There's no point telling people they can't do something cos people will get annoyed. People on forums are gonna chat a load of rubbish from time to time so it's far more sensible to provide an area to do precisely that.
Also i'm not quite sure 'pointless' is the correct word to use because, for example, threads filled with *hugs* and *smiles* etc build on the sense of community, togetherness and friendship.
I don't really know how out of hand it is getting on hop, cos i just don't read those threads.
my 2 cents anyhow,
m
I think the random gibbering forum is a great idea. After 1 month the thread gets deleted. I mean how much of this random stuff do people actually go back and read up on? Very little. It's just an instant buzz, then forgotten forever. I mean why go back and look at an old pointless thread when you can just make a new one in minutes?
There's no point telling people they can't do something cos people will get annoyed. People on forums are gonna chat a load of rubbish from time to time so it's far more sensible to provide an area to do precisely that.
Also i'm not quite sure 'pointless' is the correct word to use because, for example, threads filled with *hugs* and *smiles* etc build on the sense of community, togetherness and friendship.
I don't really know how out of hand it is getting on hop, cos i just don't read those threads.
my 2 cents anyhow,
m
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Location: Edinburgh, Scotland (UK)
Posted:
I know you tolerate them already so I don't really have to tell you this... but one example is: for me as a non-native English speaker smileys are really helpful, like when someone says something in an ironic way, if there's aor at the end I get the irony and it keeps me from getting offended about something that was a joke in the first place.
Written by: onewheeldave
Whilst personally I don't understand how people can see any value in smilies, it's apparent to me that they do...
I know you tolerate them already so I don't really have to tell you this... but one example is: for me as a non-native English speaker smileys are really helpful, like when someone says something in an ironic way, if there's a
or at the end I get the irony and it keeps me from getting offended about something that was a joke in the first place. "vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
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fluffy mess
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fluffy mess
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Location: Brighton, United Kingdom
Posted:
Wow....
*stands up and raises hand*
I too must admit to being a postwhore,but only in the sense that I have racked up a high post count in a relatively short amount of time. I must also admit that I did not know it bugged anybody, I apologise for that.I will not excuse myself for it though. The truth is I only access HOP at work. My job involves a lot of hanging around waiting for queries and the like to be processed so I have been given a pc for entertainment at work too, which leaves me floating around the HOP forums for the better part of my day. And in all fairness,it does say that that particular forum is for random daftness and nonsence...exactly what it says on the label.
I agree that even since I joined the face of social chat has changed dramatilcally and it's gotten a little out of hand (*trying really hard not to make mention of the many threads kept alive by gremlins alone*) But I love the games threads,I love the randomness and immaturity, and in all fairness, it is through threads like these that I have gotten to know a fair few people,and plucked up the courage to actually meet some of them,based largely on the fact that I have started getting to know them in a purly light-hearted and funny way.I'm in my twenties,I am immature for at least 80% of my day. Yes, I take part in the more serious forums,and find them very usefull, but it is social chat where I spend most of my time encouraging the sillyness,and I like to be able to communicate with the people I have gotten to know without them being online at the same time,ruling out the use of a chatroom, and I dont have access to msn or the like either.
Like I said,I apologise to those who do not like it, and going forward I will make an effort to avoid pointlessness and waste now that I know it bugs people,but I will not stop being random, immature and silly,sorry, that would just make my work-day unbearable.I will promise to tighten up my two cents.
I love HOP and think all the people who frequent it's forums are great, and the atmosphere is the best around. Maybe changing the structure a bit would help ease the situation,maybe the deletion of the most inactive and pointless threads is the way to go....
Wow....
*stands up and raises hand*
I too must admit to being a postwhore,but only in the sense that I have racked up a high post count in a relatively short amount of time. I must also admit that I did not know it bugged anybody, I apologise for that.I will not excuse myself for it though. The truth is I only access HOP at work. My job involves a lot of hanging around waiting for queries and the like to be processed so I have been given a pc for entertainment at work too, which leaves me floating around the HOP forums for the better part of my day. And in all fairness,it does say that that particular forum is for random daftness and nonsence...exactly what it says on the label.
I agree that even since I joined the face of social chat has changed dramatilcally and it's gotten a little out of hand (*trying really hard not to make mention of the many threads kept alive by gremlins alone*) But I love the games threads,I love the randomness and immaturity, and in all fairness, it is through threads like these that I have gotten to know a fair few people,and plucked up the courage to actually meet some of them,based largely on the fact that I have started getting to know them in a purly light-hearted and funny way.I'm in my twenties,I am immature for at least 80% of my day. Yes, I take part in the more serious forums,and find them very usefull, but it is social chat where I spend most of my time encouraging the sillyness,and I like to be able to communicate with the people I have gotten to know without them being online at the same time,ruling out the use of a chatroom, and I dont have access to msn or the like either.
Like I said,I apologise to those who do not like it, and going forward I will make an effort to avoid pointlessness and waste now that I know it bugs people,but I will not stop being random, immature and silly,sorry, that would just make my work-day unbearable.I will promise to tighten up my two cents.
I love HOP and think all the people who frequent it's forums are great, and the atmosphere is the best around. Maybe changing the structure a bit would help ease the situation,maybe the deletion of the most inactive and pointless threads is the way to go....
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HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
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HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
4,437 posts
Location: Staines, United Kingdom
Posted:
preciseley
preciseley
An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind
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Posted:
I was going to post about the post whoreing thats been around recently...
But Sam beat me to it.
Over the last few months, Ive noticed that less and less of the HoP old skoolers are postinbg in chat, and are sticking to the intros.
This makes me sad, because their posts are always really worth reading. I somewhat feel responsible for the scaring off of these guys, because of the amount of garbage ive been posting.
For this Im sorry.
I was going to post about the post whoreing thats been around recently...
But Sam beat me to it.
Over the last few months, Ive noticed that less and less of the HoP old skoolers are postinbg in chat, and are sticking to the intros.
This makes me sad, because their posts are always really worth reading. I somewhat feel responsible for the scaring off of these guys, because of the amount of garbage ive been posting.
For this Im sorry.
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6,942 posts
Location: London, UK
Posted:
sorry FRD this was (as i said) in reaction to a few threads over in chat
thank you guys for contributing so much as well
i thin this really did need talking about because although i feel that this is really a minor thing (having seen similar in other places) its also the sort of thing that if not talked about can easily ebcome major and cause lots of people to become upset etc
i have to agree with blu about the love of immaturity and i think sphereculism has a very good point about going through and getting rid of old stupid threads
maybe if everyone here went through and found say 5 old threads that either they created or that just died and sent them to the mdos we could get rid of some of the rubbish
and i will again appologise for ousting the old skoolers from the chat
like FRD i feel partly responsible as i have seen a decline in your numbers and would love to see you back in there (feels like some conservationist)
oh and thank you so much for not just yelling at me
i was kinda worried that id open a can of worms but i (if no one else) have found this really interesting to see peoples views
so new question from me.... (thank you pele for your definition of a post whore - any one else wanna give one?)
what would you think is the best way forward? lower the limit on the number of smileys?
more active 'moding' from the denizens of chat? (ie alerting mods to repeat threads rubbish posts etc)
a random gibberish forum that is purged every month or something
less game threads?
sorry FRD
this was (as i said) in reaction to a few threads over in chat thank you guys for contributing so much as well
i thin this really did need talking about because although i feel that this is really a minor thing (having seen similar in other places) its also the sort of thing that if not talked about can easily ebcome major and cause lots of people to become upset etc
i have to agree with blu about the love of immaturity
and i think sphereculism has a very good point about going through and getting rid of old stupid threadsmaybe if everyone here went through and found say 5 old threads that either they created or that just died and sent them to the mdos we could get rid of some of the rubbish
and i will again appologise for ousting the old skoolers from the chat
like FRD i feel partly responsible as i have seen a decline in your numbers and would love to see you back in there (feels like some conservationist) oh and thank you so much for not just yelling at me i was kinda worried that id open a can of worms but i (if no one else) have found this really interesting to see peoples views
so new question from me.... (thank you pele for your definition of a post whore - any one else wanna give one?)
what would you think is the best way forward? lower the limit on the number of smileys?
more active 'moding' from the denizens of chat? (ie alerting mods to repeat threads rubbish posts etc)
a random gibberish forum that is purged every month or something
less game threads?
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