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Snoochie-boochie-noochies!
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Well after being used, betrayed, and thrown into the gutter for the billionth time, i figured i'd see what you all think and if you can prove me wrong.
Your homework: Love. Is it the ultimate all-conquering emotion? or as i have been proven many times, just a tool for women who haven't the decency to admit they're using you? Discuss.
Well after being used, betrayed, and thrown into the gutter for the billionth time, i figured i'd see what you all think and if you can prove me wrong.
Your homework: Love. Is it the ultimate all-conquering emotion? or as i have been proven many times, just a tool for women who haven't the decency to admit they're using you? Discuss.
God's illgitament son
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WOW you got burned bad huh bro?
i got into a simular discussion a few days ago........i see love (and all emotions for that matter) as a waste of time. dont get me wrong im not tyring to imply that i am competely void of emotion, but when you think about, and i mean really think about it, emotions just get in the way of logic.......
now is love the all conquering emotion, yes unfortunatly, it is. people will do anything for love, and most of the time they are just in love with the THOUGHT of being in love and having that "special bond". is it something women use to get what they want? well i think men do that more than women
WOW you got burned bad huh bro?
i got into a simular discussion a few days ago........i see love (and all emotions for that matter) as a waste of time. dont get me wrong im not tyring to imply that i am competely void of emotion, but when you think about, and i mean really think about it, emotions just get in the way of logic.......
now is love the all conquering emotion, yes unfortunatly, it is. people will do anything for love, and most of the time they are just in love with the THOUGHT of being in love and having that "special bond". is it something women use to get what they want? well i think men do that more than women
You can't avoid pain by fencing yourself from it.
Some times you need the help of others more than anything else
But you have to let them close enough to help......
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you know one drop of water, say from an eye dropper. In a swimming bathtub is one in a million. One drop of water in an olympic swimming pool is one in a billion.
are you sure you were [censored] around one billion times?
PS-yes to both your questions. I pray, wish and hope you find the one out of a billion instance where it is a mutal "all conquereing emotions":
you know one drop of water, say from an eye dropper. In a swimming bathtub is one in a million. One drop of water in an olympic swimming pool is one in a billion.
are you sure you were [censored] around one billion times?
PS-yes to both your questions. I pray, wish and hope you find the one out of a billion instance where it is a mutal "all conquereing emotions":
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even spock learned to acknowledge his emotions. WHY CANT YOU???? SPOCK REALIZE LOGIC IS NOTHING WITHOUT EMOTION
Written by: Fryed Fish
WOW you got burned bad huh bro?
i got into a simular discussion a few days ago........i see love (and all emotions for that matter) as a waste of time. dont get me wrong im not tyring to imply that i am competely void of emotion, but when you think about, and i mean really think about it, emotions just get in the way of logic.......
now is love the all conquering emotion, yes unfortunatly, it is. people will do anything for love, and most of the time they are just in love with the THOUGHT of being in love and having that "special bond". is it something women use to get what they want? well i think men do that more than women
even spock learned to acknowledge his emotions. WHY CANT YOU???? SPOCK REALIZE LOGIC IS NOTHING WITHOUT EMOTION
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in most ways love is both an emotion and a tool, it's an emotion to both of the people involved, but only a tool by the one who's stupid enough to use it
in most ways love is both an emotion and a tool, it's an emotion to both of the people involved, but only a tool by the one who's stupid enough to use it
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Snoochie-boochie-noochies!
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FF: yup. did everything i could to make her happy, stupidly ignored friends warnings, got
on 6 n half hours after paying her £325 phone bill.
snork: ok maybe not a billion, but more than anyone deserves. even scum like me. re: prayers, wishes n hopes... given up. sooner stick with the company of the few friends i have left
FF: yup. did everything i could to make her happy, stupidly ignored friends warnings, got
on 6 n half hours after paying her £325 phone bill.snork: ok maybe not a billion, but more than anyone deserves. even scum like me. re: prayers, wishes n hopes... given up. sooner stick with the company of the few friends i have left
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Snork... Spock was a fictional character
Snork... Spock was a fictional character
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God's illgitament son
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that made me laugh, thank you snork
ok think about it : lets say you get into an argument with your (lack of a better term) significant other, things start to get heated, your both saying things you dont mean, and feelings get hurt, and you cant take back what is said..........now remove emotion, and insert logic, you look at the situation from a dif point of view, insted of playing the blame game you see were you both faulted and things work out in a smoother, much nicer manner.........
that made me laugh, thank you snorkok think about it : lets say you get into an argument with your (lack of a better term) significant other, things start to get heated, your both saying things you dont mean, and feelings get hurt, and you cant take back what is said..........now remove emotion, and insert logic, you look at the situation from a dif point of view, insted of playing the blame game you see were you both faulted and things work out in a smoother, much nicer manner.........
You can't avoid pain by fencing yourself from it.
Some times you need the help of others more than anything else
But you have to let them close enough to help......
People want to be needed, I found that out too
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Snoochie-boochie-noochies!
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kyle: stupid enough to use it, or believe in it?
kyle: stupid enough to use it, or believe in it?
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Ahhhh look a thread for bitter and twisted misogynistic people. Its nice to see them bonding so well
Ahhhh look a thread for bitter and twisted misogynistic people. Its nice to see them bonding so well
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he was.......
...
well thank you for runing my day. scratch that, life.
EVEN IF SPOCK IS FICTIONAL, HE HAD HIS [censored] TOGETHER.
ps-sniper you may prefere that, but love will strike again.. and again untill you relent and comply.. and eventually find harmony.
he was.......
...
well thank you for runing my day. scratch that, life.
EVEN IF SPOCK IS FICTIONAL, HE HAD HIS [censored] TOGETHER.
ps-sniper you may prefere that, but love will strike again.. and again untill you relent and comply.. and eventually find harmony.
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Pooh-Bah
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I honestly believe that love is an emotion, and a very strong one. If someone is using it as a tool, then they aren't experiencing love at all...instead a much more sinister emotion, although what you'd call it I don't know.
I honestly believe that love is an emotion, and a very strong one. If someone is using it as a tool, then they aren't experiencing love at all...instead a much more sinister emotion, although what you'd call it I don't know.
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spirtie, I think in ocassion, their is both love and manipulation. THe manipulation is com pletly self concious, and it causes a lot of conlfict with the individual, usually the push themselves away from the person they are manipulating/love. Ive had it happen to me, the person tooling me around had no idea what was going on.
spirtie, I think in ocassion, their is both love and manipulation. THe manipulation is com pletly self concious, and it causes a lot of conlfict with the individual, usually the push themselves away from the person they are manipulating/love. Ive had it happen to me, the person tooling me around had no idea what was going on.
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Snoochie-boochie-noochies!
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wow this flared up quick...
snork: love's got it's work cut out now, lost all faith in it now.
spritie: i loved her with all my heart. clearly she didn't feel the same about me
wow this flared up quick...
snork: love's got it's work cut out now, lost all faith in it now.
spritie: i loved her with all my heart. clearly she didn't feel the same about me
God's illgitament son
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i am not bitter (twisted i cant argue with) but not bitter........
Written by: Skulduggery
Ahhhh look a thread for bitter and twisted Masoganistic people. Its nice to see them bonding so well
i am not bitter (twisted i cant argue with) but not bitter........
You can't avoid pain by fencing yourself from it.
Some times you need the help of others more than anything else
But you have to let them close enough to help......
People want to be needed, I found that out too
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i still stick with stupid enough to use it.
everyone needs to believe in love, it's what keeps some of us going, the hope in that there's someone out there, who's perfect for us.
if a person is experienceing love, then decides to use it at a tool, then they are stupid, because they're going to lose something important to them. but if they use someone else's love for them, then thats just downright uncalled for
i still stick with stupid enough to use it.
everyone needs to believe in love, it's what keeps some of us going, the hope in that there's someone out there, who's perfect for us.
if a person is experienceing love, then decides to use it at a tool, then they are stupid, because they're going to lose something important to them. but if they use someone else's love for them, then thats just downright uncalled for
We are the music makers, We are the dreamers of dreams,
Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams;
World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams;
We are the movers and shakers of the world for ever, it seems.
God's illgitament son
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well i dont know Hav, if someone starts to use love as a tool then that love must not be that important, or they are just oblivious to the fact that they are doing it, which i dont think is possible, if someone is useing love as a toll, then they are in a sense using the other person (which could be the desired out come) hence they know they are doing it..........get it
well i dont know Hav, if someone starts to use love as a tool then that love must not be that important, or they are just oblivious to the fact that they are doing it, which i dont think is possible, if someone is useing love as a toll, then they are in a sense using the other person (which could be the desired out come) hence they know they are doing it..........get it
You can't avoid pain by fencing yourself from it.
Some times you need the help of others more than anything else
But you have to let them close enough to help......
People want to be needed, I found that out too
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(edit: goddamit slow computer... that ditto was for FF - ie, I am not too much bitter these days... twisted is another thing)
Sorry to ruin your life Snork. Maybe he existed in a parallel universe
EDITED_BY: Firepoise (1108509205)
(edit: goddamit slow computer... that ditto was for FF - ie, I am not too much bitter these days... twisted is another thing
)Sorry to ruin your life Snork. Maybe he existed in a parallel universe
EDITED_BY: Firepoise (1108509205)
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Pooh-Bah
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Posted:
exactly. what you were feeling was love. Since she was attempting to use love as a tool, she wasn't exactly feeling "love". Instead, it was some other emotion.
I don't believe you can use love to manipulate another person. If that is something you are trying to do, then what you are experiencing is not love.
Oh, and I'm not bitter about anything.
Written by: Sniper
spritie: i loved her with all my heart. clearly she didn't feel the same about me
exactly. what you were feeling was love. Since she was attempting to use love as a tool, she wasn't exactly feeling "love". Instead, it was some other emotion.
I don't believe you can use love to manipulate another person. If that is something you are trying to do, then what you are experiencing is not love.
Oh, and I'm not bitter about anything.
God's illgitament son
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you never know, she may have, but she may have had a twisted view of what love is.........what was her family life like? distant parents, divorced parents? all this can add up..........if she saw her mother/father go threw relationships were they were in love, but ignored/emotionaly neglected or abused, then thats what she feels love is................
point in case : myself : divorced parents, saw my mom go threw a series of relationships were she was little more than an object, so threw out most of my life i let people walk all over me cause i thought that what love was.......obviously its not and i know that know............. >
just a thought bro
Written by: Sniper
clearly she didn't feel the same about me
you never know, she may have, but she may have had a twisted view of what love is.........what was her family life like? distant parents, divorced parents? all this can add up..........if she saw her mother/father go threw relationships were they were in love, but ignored/emotionaly neglected or abused, then thats what she feels love is................
point in case : myself : divorced parents, saw my mom go threw a series of relationships were she was little more than an object, so threw out most of my life i let people walk all over me cause i thought that what love was.......obviously its not and i know that know.............
just a thought bro
You can't avoid pain by fencing yourself from it.
Some times you need the help of others more than anything else
But you have to let them close enough to help......
People want to be needed, I found that out too
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well i've just found out that the girl i'm going out with has been seeing someone else, and i found out off a mate
edit: love sucks, but its needed. plus i find it helps to get it out
EDITED_BY: Havokist (1108511301)
well i've just found out that the girl i'm going out with has been seeing someone else, and i found out off a mate
edit: love sucks, but its needed. plus i find it helps to get it out
EDITED_BY: Havokist (1108511301)
We are the music makers, We are the dreamers of dreams,
Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams;
World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams;
We are the movers and shakers of the world for ever, it seems.
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Ive been burned, and it doesnt get any easier. But im in love now and that is good, took me 1.5 years to realise it tho...
Here's a poem by me, explains how I felt at the time...
Is It Me?
Black garbed monsters reach out from within,
The blackness descends upon me again,
I can never wish for more than I have,
Even though all that I had I had gave,
Love deserts me without pity or fear,
I try to comfort myself, alone, here,
And yet as I try to withstand the heat,
Of lost love's hatred burning me into meat,
and my heart's aching terror of loneliness pays,
The bittersweet price of that which I crave,
But solitude eats the flesh of my heart,
As I try to forget the way at the start,
That she looked at me, seemingly, just like a saint,
And I felt my heart drifting away to a faint,
And I soared like an eagle up into the sky,
And I fall back to earth with a terrible cry,
As I remember that no more will I see her face,
Or feel the touch of her beauteous grace.
Peter Hollins Reed
Copyright ©2005 Peter Hollins Reed
Says it all from my point of view...
Ive been burned, and it doesnt get any easier. But im in love now and that is good, took me 1.5 years to realise it tho...
Here's a poem by me, explains how I felt at the time...
Is It Me?
Black garbed monsters reach out from within,
The blackness descends upon me again,
I can never wish for more than I have,
Even though all that I had I had gave,
Love deserts me without pity or fear,
I try to comfort myself, alone, here,
And yet as I try to withstand the heat,
Of lost love's hatred burning me into meat,
and my heart's aching terror of loneliness pays,
The bittersweet price of that which I crave,
But solitude eats the flesh of my heart,
As I try to forget the way at the start,
That she looked at me, seemingly, just like a saint,
And I felt my heart drifting away to a faint,
And I soared like an eagle up into the sky,
And I fall back to earth with a terrible cry,
As I remember that no more will I see her face,
Or feel the touch of her beauteous grace.
Peter Hollins Reed
Copyright ©2005 Peter Hollins Reed
Says it all from my point of view...
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really like the poem
ok, i read this thread and decided i was going to contribute (ill try and make it short).
what i say is not for or against what has been said above, it is just my opinion.
to start, my belief is the word 'love' is a socially shaped term, along side with romanticism etc where it has sometimes been overhyped.
but i do beleive there are strong bonds formed between two people, of which at its peak people will do anything for their other half. its biggest flaw though, is that everyone is completly different, and so the two involved in the relationship may feel differently about it, and the biggest problem with a lot of people is comunication. im not sayin that people dont use others cause im sure they do, i have been used in the past, but what one person has experienced through life and then feels in a relationship is not necessarily the same as the other person.
now before i start offending anyone (which im worried i might do now) im gonna stop ranting.
i think the reason ive said all of the above is because i know how you feel, i have been in a similar situation, but the best thing that can come out of it is that you learn from it, im sure soon enough youll meet a better person, and youll know from your past experiences how not to get hurt. not all girls are users and im sure there are a few who will apreciate you as a person.
i hope that anything that ive said might have been some kinda help.......
EDITED_BY: liquid_bubblegum (1108596563)
really like the poem
ok, i read this thread and decided i was going to contribute (ill try and make it short).
what i say is not for or against what has been said above, it is just my opinion.
to start, my belief is the word 'love' is a socially shaped term, along side with romanticism etc where it has sometimes been overhyped.
but i do beleive there are strong bonds formed between two people, of which at its peak people will do anything for their other half. its biggest flaw though, is that everyone is completly different, and so the two involved in the relationship may feel differently about it, and the biggest problem with a lot of people is comunication. im not sayin that people dont use others cause im sure they do, i have been used in the past, but what one person has experienced through life and then feels in a relationship is not necessarily the same as the other person.
now before i start offending anyone (which im worried i might do now) im gonna stop ranting.
i think the reason ive said all of the above is because i know how you feel, i have been in a similar situation, but the best thing that can come out of it is that you learn from it, im sure soon enough youll meet a better person, and youll know from your past experiences how not to get hurt. not all girls are users and im sure there are a few who will apreciate you as a person.
i hope that anything that ive said might have been some kinda help.......
EDITED_BY: liquid_bubblegum (1108596563)
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Snoochie-boochie-noochies!
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meh i'm over her now. got the few mates who haven't turned their backs on me yet to look after me and possible promotion at work. thanx everyone who replied for helping fix my fragile head
meh i'm over her now. got the few mates who haven't turned their backs on me yet to look after me and possible promotion at work. thanx everyone who replied for helping fix my fragile head
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Hey Havokist... sorry to hear that... maybe try door number one... stay single for a while
Hey Havokist... sorry to hear that... maybe try door number one... stay single for a while
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Snoochie-boochie-noochies!
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Snoochie-boochie-noochies!
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Posted:
*offers kyle lessons in singledom*
join me young havok heffner, there's learning afoot...
*offers kyle lessons in singledom*
join me young havok heffner, there's learning afoot...
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chemical attraction
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chemical attraction
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well here goes.after being messed around many times i think that love is a tool.i currently got engaged 5 days ago when the bf proposed to me and then i began to think that love may be an emotion.today proved me wrong when he decided to hurt me byy saying that actually he was not ready.(well why ask me to marry you in the f***ing first place was my thoughts).now he says he is ready 3 hours later.what the hell am i supposed to do with that??!
well here goes.after being messed around many times i think that love is a tool.i currently got engaged 5 days ago when the bf proposed to me and then i began to think that love may be an emotion.today proved me wrong when he decided to hurt me byy saying that actually he was not ready.(well why ask me to marry you in the f***ing first place was my thoughts).now he says he is ready 3 hours later.what the hell am i supposed to do with that??!
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Snoochie-boochie-noochies!
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Snoochie-boochie-noochies!
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shack up with that random sniper guy. heard he's too nice to women and lets them walk all over him and still treat them with respect. althought you're prolly got some standards so i'll tell him no... :P
Written by: Nucleopoi
what the hell am i supposed to do with that??!
shack up with that random sniper guy. heard he's too nice to women and lets them walk all over him and still treat them with respect. althought you're prolly got some standards so i'll tell him no... :P
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chemical attraction
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chemical attraction
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lol,interesting!that would teach him a lesson.mmm i love being dominant,im nice with it though,very gentle and reasonable.im sure i could come to some arrangement lol.
lol,interesting!that would teach him a lesson.mmm i love being dominant,im nice with it though,very gentle and reasonable.im sure i could come to some arrangement lol.
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dominant you say? hmm. convenient, i'm quite a fan of being tied up hehe
dominant you say? hmm. convenient, i'm quite a fan of being tied up hehe
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Awww. sweet.
Awww. sweet.
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