i like breaking the Law , of Gravity !
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Getting to the other side
Written by: Firepoise
We do need some system that will enable decisions to be made, though.
Or draw up policies that are flexible enough to be interpreted within a moral code.
Hehehehe. Fantasy politics
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Written by: Firepoise
We do need some system that will enable decisions to be made, though.
Or draw up policies that are flexible enough to be interpreted within a moral code.
Hehehehe. Fantasy politics
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Wiederstand ist Zwecklos!
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Getting to the other side
Written by: vanize
And for some reason labor seems to think they are republican, even though republicans would rather bend them over and ... well, you know what I mean. never understood that. they used to be democrats, but now they aren't I don't understand.
taken out of context i must seem so strange
~ ani di franco
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Wiederstand ist Zwecklos!
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My Mind is a Ship
Emotions become the Waves
Soul is the Ocean
If a quizz is quizzical, what is a test?
Written by: Mr Majestik
if you fear your enemy they controll you. war gives controll (stabs war)
"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"
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He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
Written by: dream
While you may prefer to spend money than US lives on imperalist conquests I'd prefer it if the soldiers stayed at home and the money was spent on something more socially productive than blowing up foreigners and then handing no bid contracts to the administration's corporate buddies.
"to a man whose only tool is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail." Abraham Maslow
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Basically the point Sambo Flux's post makes is that your military action means that your tax money which could have gone on health care, education, social security, community arts, renewable energy source etc etc has been spent on an unpopular unilateralist assault on another state.
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While you may prefer to spend money than US lives on imperalist conquests I'd prefer it if the soldiers stayed at home and the money was spent on something more socially productive than blowing up foreigners and then handing no bid contracts to the administration's corporate buddies.
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By this point, who exactly has ordered the deaths of more innocents: George W. Bush or Osama B. Ladin?
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If we don't have a choice and we're going to go to war, I'd rather spend money than lives....
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… If you want to cause more death, than go ahead and cut the war funding. It's not about funding "imperialist conquests," we've done far more good over there than you peace protesters are willing to admit to. If you know it and don't want to admit it, that's your own problem. If you have no idea about anything positive going on over there maybe you should take a second look at your sources of information and maybe make an effort to get another side to the story.
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If you think we're over there for fun, just to waste money and use civilians as target practice than this conversation is pointless.
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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Our generation, has no concept of suffering. Iraq is bad? It's a speck on the map compared to Korea's 36,000 dead, or Vietnam's 58,000. Vietnam was bad? That's nothing compared to WWII's 400,000+ dead Americans.
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we've done far more good over there than you peace protesters are willing to admit to. If you know it and don't want to admit it, that's your own problem. If you have no idea about anything positive going on over there maybe you should take a second look at your sources of information and maybe make an effort to get another side to the story.
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The US government has been involved in drawing up the law, a draft of which has been seen by The Independent on Sunday. It would give big oil companies such as BP, Shell and Exxon 30-year contracts to extract Iraqi crude and allow the first large-scale operation of foreign oil interests in the country since the industry was nationalised in 1972.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
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Emotions become the Waves
Soul is the Ocean
If a quizz is quizzical, what is a test?
Written by: Sambo Flux
Now, the ONLY solution to this is through developing sustainability, and renewable energy.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed
Written by: FaithinFire
They are building good roads and bringing clean drinking water to areas that only had disease ridding wells and waterways.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
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What scares and disgusts me is that (similar to your government) you clearly have no regard for the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis. A recent survey put the figure at around 655,000. No one knows the exact figure because these deaths weren't considered to be worth counting (unlike American soldiers death) Their suffering is some kind of bizarre externality which cannot be compared to the suffering caused by the death of an american.
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Written by: lurch
There were over 20,000,000 Soviets killed in WWII and over 7 Million Germans, both civilian and military. 18% of Poland's population was killed. This generation has never seen anything *close* to suffering on that scale. As I said before, your concept of how bad it can actually be is drastically skewed and misguided
Written by: Lurch
Whether you want to believe it or not the soldiers over there are there for good
Written by: Lurch
If this is a war for oil, than why have our prices done nothing but raise?
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It's funny that you site 655,000 dead, when the British estimate was roughly 50,000.
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I don't think an argument about our fossil fuels and energy needs has anything to do with arguing about the cost of Iraq.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
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