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Pooh-Bah
2,110 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Pooh-Bah
2,110 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Posted:
So Ive always wondered why Im not as good a spinner with fire as I am with practice poi and such. I always blamed it on the innate fear of the flame. But recently Ive come to the conclusion that its because the spinning flame somewhat blinds me and throws me off balance. I noticed this because I found that Im still good at spinning fire during light hours. It only happens when its really dark out and all I can see are the flames flying through my field of view.
My question is, does anyone know of a remedy for this? Ive thought about spinning with sun glasses on but that would look kind of goofy and I dont know if that would really help. Ill try it none the less but, in the mean time, does anyone have any other suggestions?
So Ive always wondered why Im not as good a spinner with fire as I am with practice poi and such. I always blamed it on the innate fear of the flame. But recently Ive come to the conclusion that its because the spinning flame somewhat blinds me and throws me off balance. I noticed this because I found that Im still good at spinning fire during light hours. It only happens when its really dark out and all I can see are the flames flying through my field of view.
My question is, does anyone know of a remedy for this? Ive thought about spinning with sun glasses on but that would look kind of goofy and I dont know if that would really help. Ill try it none the less but, in the mean time, does anyone have any other suggestions?
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and torch the rough patches.
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Poi-tato
183 posts
Location: Iceberg 319, Canada
Poi-tato
183 posts
Location: Iceberg 319, Canada
Posted:
spin with ur eyes closed that way u get a better feel and increase ur skills dont really need ur eyes if ur using poi of staff until u throw and once u really learn ur staff u dont need to see throwing either so just try it with closed eyes or a blindfold closed eyes is better cuz u can open them if u screw up
spin with ur eyes closed that way u get a better feel and increase ur skills dont really need ur eyes if ur using poi of staff until u throw and once u really learn ur staff u dont need to see throwing either so just try it with closed eyes or a blindfold closed eyes is better cuz u can open them if u screw up
It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potato's.
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addict
625 posts
Location: Aotearoa (NZ), New Zealand
addict
625 posts
Location: Aotearoa (NZ), New Zealand
Posted:
You shouldnt need to see your poi dude. Everyone learns differently, but you are good enough IMO to just go by feel.
Blindfolded is the way to go, but wear some "groin" protection
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You shouldnt need to see your poi dude. Everyone learns differently, but you are good enough IMO to just go by feel.
Blindfolded is the way to go, but wear some "groin" protection
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Pooh-Bah
2,110 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Pooh-Bah
2,110 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Posted:
Its not that I need to see my poi. Its that my poi are the ONLY thing I can see.
My style has changed considerably in the past 2 or 3 months. Im dancing more, turning more, doing more under the leg combos and such. These things require good balance and a connection to your surroundings. When its totally dark out and all I see are flames rushing past my head, I lose a lot of that. I no longer know where my "audience" is. I can no longer see the ground beneath and around me. I get somewhat disoriented by the intense light leaving spots and trails in my vision.
Spinning with closed eyes isnt the answer here as it wouldnt solve any of these problems.
Its not that I need to see my poi. Its that my poi are the ONLY thing I can see.
My style has changed considerably in the past 2 or 3 months. Im dancing more, turning more, doing more under the leg combos and such. These things require good balance and a connection to your surroundings. When its totally dark out and all I see are flames rushing past my head, I lose a lot of that. I no longer know where my "audience" is. I can no longer see the ground beneath and around me. I get somewhat disoriented by the intense light leaving spots and trails in my vision.
Spinning with closed eyes isnt the answer here as it wouldnt solve any of these problems.
Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.
-Me
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Carpal \'Tunnel
4,172 posts
Location: Hastings, United Kingdom
Carpal \'Tunnel
4,172 posts
Location: Hastings, United Kingdom
Posted:
my dad has the same problem. hes 90% deaf and his ears are completly f*cked up. he finds it extremly difficult to balance when its dark.
maybe spinning for a period of time in daylight in the surrounding area to 'get to know it' then carry on spinning into the night, so that the darkeness becomes gradual and you don't really notic it. plus something that helps my dad is to keep his head upright (if this is possible whilst spinning poi) keep ur head still, don't move it up and down at all. my dad seems to think it keeps teh fluid still in teh ear so he is able to keep his balance. not sure though.
Aimz xx
my dad has the same problem. hes 90% deaf and his ears are completly f*cked up. he finds it extremly difficult to balance when its dark.
maybe spinning for a period of time in daylight in the surrounding area to 'get to know it' then carry on spinning into the night, so that the darkeness becomes gradual and you don't really notic it. plus something that helps my dad is to keep his head upright (if this is possible whilst spinning poi) keep ur head still, don't move it up and down at all. my dad seems to think it keeps teh fluid still in teh ear so he is able to keep his balance. not sure though.
Aimz xx
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114 posts
Location: USA
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114 posts
Location: USA
Posted:
Okay, perhaps the discussion has passed this point and it's no longer relevant, but I think if you got some really awesome Matrix-y shades, they wouldn't be goofy - they could become all the rage...
Okay, perhaps the discussion has passed this point and it's no longer relevant, but I think if you got some really awesome Matrix-y shades, they wouldn't be goofy - they could become all the rage...
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Pooh-Bah
2,110 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Pooh-Bah
2,110 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Posted:
Indeed. Perhaps make some shades that are kind of a part to a costume. Make them functional, yet, an integral part to my outfit
Indeed. Perhaps make some shades that are kind of a part to a costume. Make them functional, yet, an integral part to my outfit
Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.
-Me
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114 posts
Location: USA
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114 posts
Location: USA
Posted:
Exactly! They could be really cool. I can see it now... Of course, they'd have to do what you want them to do... 
Have you tried sunglasses yet?
Exactly! They could be really cool. I can see it now...
Of course, they'd have to do what you want them to do... Have you tried sunglasses yet? GOLD Member
Pooh-Bah
2,110 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Pooh-Bah
2,110 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Posted:
Nay, havent been around to spinning much lately nor do I have a pair of sun glasses.
Nay, havent been around to spinning much lately nor do I have a pair of sun glasses.
Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.
-Me
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Hyperloops suck
595 posts
Location: USA
Hyperloops suck
595 posts
Location: USA
Posted:
Ooh ooh, idea! Be all theatrical and stuff! Light your poi, and look away as if you are in great pain. Start spinning your poi, but do it really sloppily, throw one in the air, reach in your pocket for your sunglasses, put them on, catch your poi, and spin super bad-assily.
Then, after you realize bad-assily isn't a real word, stop laughing at me and finish your freaking burn!
Ooh ooh, idea! Be all theatrical and stuff! Light your poi, and look away as if you are in great pain. Start spinning your poi, but do it really sloppily, throw one in the air, reach in your pocket for your sunglasses, put them on, catch your poi, and spin super bad-assily.
Then, after you realize bad-assily isn't a real word, stop laughing at me and finish your freaking burn!
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veteran
1,508 posts
Location: Out, United Kingdom
veteran
1,508 posts
Location: Out, United Kingdom
Posted:
It could be type of fuel you're using, if you're using something stupid like pure fire lighting fluid then it probably will be too bright, I use simple paraffin and I think that's fine
Actually it could be that your eyes become accustomed to the dark before you spin so when you light up they appear blinding (like when you turn the light on in the middle of the night after you've just woken up)
So try spending a few minutes in a brightly lit area before you spin 
It could be type of fuel you're using, if you're using something stupid like pure fire lighting fluid then it probably will be too bright, I use simple paraffin and I think that's fine
Actually it could be that your eyes become accustomed to the dark before you spin so when you light up they appear blinding (like when you turn the light on in the middle of the night after you've just woken up)
So try spending a few minutes in a brightly lit area before you spin AAARRRGGGHHH!!! My giant stick broke!!! In two!!! My stick broke in two!!! 
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114 posts
Location: USA
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114 posts
Location: USA
Posted:
Haha, Millenium, I like it!!
Haha, Millenium, I like it!!
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Pooh-Bah
2,110 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Pooh-Bah
2,110 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Posted:
I indeed like the idea also Mill. Might have to do that for a show some time...
/stolen idea
I use Lamp Oil, Flame Boy.
I indeed like the idea also Mill. Might have to do that for a show some time...
/stolen idea
I use Lamp Oil, Flame Boy.
Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.
-Me
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master of disaster
3,354 posts
Location: New York, USA
master of disaster
3,354 posts
Location: New York, USA
Posted:
is it that you're spinning an area with absolutely no other source of light? cuz you could try having some lights around and see if that helps
is it that you're spinning an area with absolutely no other source of light? cuz you could try having some lights around and see if that helps
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Pooh-Bah
2,110 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Pooh-Bah
2,110 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Posted:
Thats a good option as well, though, not always possible.
Thats a good option as well, though, not always possible.
Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.
-Me
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master of disaster
3,354 posts
Location: New York, USA
master of disaster
3,354 posts
Location: New York, USA
Posted:
sometimes parking lots have big post lights...
sometimes parking lots have big post lights...
kyrian: I've felt your finger connect with me many times
lou kitten: sneaky little meatball..
ezz: please corrupt me more
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Pooh-Bah
2,110 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Pooh-Bah
2,110 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Posted:
Indeed. But Im not gonna go out in search of a parking lot every time I wanna spin.
Indeed. But Im not gonna go out in search of a parking lot every time I wanna spin.
Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.
-Me
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Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Posted:
Is it all the time? i find that it takes me a couple of burns before i can do any throws when i spinning in the dark. My eyes seem to take a little while to adjust to the brightness and the darkness if you know what I mean.
eat more carrots...
Is it all the time? i find that it takes me a couple of burns before i can do any throws when i spinning in the dark. My eyes seem to take a little while to adjust to the brightness and the darkness if you know what I mean.
eat more carrots...
Love is the law.
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old hand
1,107 posts
Location: In a test pit, Mackay, Australia
old hand
1,107 posts
Location: In a test pit, Mackay, Australia
Posted:
Methylated spirits.
Then you can colour the flame and pretend that was your intention all along.
Methylated spirits.
Then you can colour the flame and pretend that was your intention all along.
There is a slight possibility that I am not actually right all of the time.
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sleeping with angels
508 posts
Location: anaheim CA usa
sleeping with angels
508 posts
Location: anaheim CA usa
Posted:
if you spinn naked you will be so inbarsed that youy will forget about the flame and spin just fine
if you spinn naked you will be so inbarsed that youy will forget about the flame and spin just fine
SLEEP WITH ANGELS muckieha
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veteran
1,508 posts
Location: Out, United Kingdom
veteran
1,508 posts
Location: Out, United Kingdom
Posted:
It may hurt if a poi went between your legs while naked tho
It may hurt if a poi went between your legs while naked tho AAARRRGGGHHH!!! My giant stick broke!!! In two!!! My stick broke in two!!!
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