-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.
-Me
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
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MikeIcon
First off, I generally breathe fire with Ultra Pure Lamp Oil and eat fire with White Gas.
To start, white gas is overall more dangerous than lamp oil. It is more explosive, burns hotter, is more toxic, and easily transfers flames onto clothes or other objects.
Lamp Oil isn't too toxic unless injested in quantity and/or introduced into the lungs. Lamp Oil does not cause cancer in it's unburned form. White gas IS toxic in smaller quantities and can cause cancer in unburnt form.
Putting FIRE in your mouth is just far worse for you than putting oil in your mouth. Fire will cause your gums to recede, teeth to cook/crack/crumble, and may cause oral/facial burns if done incorrectly. Whenever you put a burning torch into your mouth, you are coating your mouth with burnt hydrocarbons which increases the risk of cancer in your mouth and all along your digestive system. Also, you run the risk of inhaling straight flames. Lamp oil isn't great for your mouth/system but overall is less caustic. Contrary to popular belief, breathing fire with lamp oil will never cause a 'blowback' in which fire enters your mouth and makes your face explode. You do run the risk of facial (and full body) burns when breathing fire as fuel does tend to soak into clothes and skin over time.
Written by : Taken from your quote of MikeIcon
Lamp Oil does not cause cancer in it's unburned form
Well, that is an opinion, not a fact.Written by : Taken from your quote of MikeIcon
Putting FIRE in your mouth is just far worse for you than putting oil in your mouth.
Maybe I got it all wrong but so far I thought that you're not supposed to "put fire in your mouth"... I thought you were to extinguish the flame with your exhale.
Hence only because something is "worse than" it doesn't equal "it's good to"...
Generally we're a society, unless it comes to guns and helmets We fought bitter battles over Nutella and Marmite, casualties are high and ppl are still not finished with the crusadethe best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by :MikeIcon
"I have never seen or heard of a fire-eating injury that caused more than cosmetic damage or superficial burns"
You must not know very many seasoned fire eaters...
I know several older fire eaters (40+). All of them are missing many (if not all) of their teeth, one has had parts of his throat and jaw removed, they all have breathing issues and talk with a deep grimey voice (except for the guy missing his throat who can barely talk at all). I do not personally know of anyone who has died as a result of eating fire... But Im sure it has happened. Fact is, I don't know of anyone who has died from fire breathing either.
I have been eating and breathing fire for about the same amount of time. I have personally gotten more injuries as a result of fire eating than I have while fire breathing and I probably breathe fire at least twice as much as I eat it...
To each his own I suppose... But I still believe fire eating is more hazardous.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by :MikeIcon
I have been eating and breathing fire for about the same amount of time. I have personally gotten more injuries as a result of fire eating than I have while fire breathing and I probably breathe fire at least twice as much as I eat it...
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.
-Me
Written by :MikeIcon
Pretty much every time I do an eating routine, I get burns in my mouth, on my lips, and on my arms, hands, and sometimes back.
Written by :MikeIcon
I generally keep a small container of white gas on stage with me while doing my routine and on multiple occasions, I got somewhat confused and dipped the lit torch into my fuel instead of the unlit one causing the fuel can to catch...
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I have also had accidents where I transfer fire to my clothes (pants/shirt) and couldn't put it out fast enough, resulting in some pretty nasty burns on my chest and legs.
Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.
-Me
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Obviously I know it's risky to hold a torch in my teeth for 10 seconds while I unbutton and remove my shirt, however, that's what makes people want to hire me.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
Written by :Pele
If the hydrocarbons of fire eating were such a huge issue, I would think these men would have far more instances of cancer to the mouth, throat, etc. But they do not. Not a single one of them.
More than a few have had/have ulcers and liver cancer.
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
Written by :Dr_Birgit
In the case of fire breathing you get the "original" liquid you're using with all its nice additives, which is bad enough.
In the case of fire eating, you get the combustion products straight into your mouth, too. That would contain a higher percentage of polycyclic hydrocarbons, which are highly toxic. They do cause liver cancer, because that is where they are oxidised by liver enzymes and get turned into highly reactive substances, so just because the cancer does not occur at the site of first exposure doesn't mean it's not caused by that exposure.
Written by :Pele
I just want to say thanks to OWD for saying what I was thinking, but better.
Dude...you rock.
Written by :Pele
Birgit, I never said nothing was happening. I'm on a message group that has about 60 of the top, most highly regarded, most phenominal fire eating/breathing professionals in the US, many of whom who have been in the industry for decades. My info is from them and their personal experiences.
I *know* stuff happens from fire eating, which is part of why I mentioned the liver cancer that some of these pros have been through, and one of them died from a couple years ago.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.
-Me
Written by :onewheeldave
Is the above mentioned 'combustion products' issue known and discussed on that message group?
Any conclusions (or links to relevant research)?
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
Human
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion
~Spin free, weave memories, light the night~
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK