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colemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
i'm trying to get into changing this intro from time to time - at the very least to keep the music and films bit 'up to date'.

smile



name: cole[man]

sex: male

age: 27



location: i live in a veritable castle in leytonstone in east london with my beautiful girlfriend ubblove

i used to go to lots of workshops but i have to admit, its a fairly rare occurance these days.



your favourite website/s: this one is okay wink jugglingdb.com, contactjuggling.org, okayplayer.com, spherculism.com, playfestival.co.uk, magicbunny.co.uk, gettyimages.co.uk, toolband.com, airside.co.uk...



toys: i play poi and juggle balls. every now and again (like most people i think) i pick up other toys but am worse at all of these than i am at the keeping balls in the air thing - 97531, drop, drop, drop, drop, drop.



been twirling: since may 2002.

i could do the basic stuff (just a fwd and rev 3bt weave and a fwd butterfly) back in nov 2001 but then went and did a snowboard season in the alps and forgot everything.

when i came back, i discovered one of my best friends had learnt loads!

so summer 2002, i was in the lucky position of being around wikid poi people every weekend and having a friend acting almost as a personal tutor during the week.

big love and respect to jonny moohaahaa and fairie cath for all your patience, effort, guidance and days and days of playtime! hug

i began learning to juggle in august or september of 2002.



recent manipulation trends: been playing with one and two 4" stage balls quite a bit whilst wiggling bits of my body, learning to juggle 5 balls all over again, 3 ball body throws, getting confused about antispin, balancing things on my head and spinning a ball on my finger.



occupation: db admin and layout & design (similar to a porn star, just in an office). i work for a small, law firm in their information and research department. i also handle all of the firm's dtp, digital publishing and commercial print. aerotech toys aren't cheap and since my body won't ever make me rich, i have resorted to something a little more conventional smile



hobbies: bammy ubblove , this stuff, music, collecting things (i'm very bad for this) and boarding (although my skating is now non-existent due to me being crap and it hurting too much so just snow when i can afford it).



music: i like pretty much all of it. current playlist includes TOOL, RADIOHEAD, THE ROOTS, D'ANGELO and JEFF BUCKLEY, (and the rest) wayne shorter, a perfect circle, billie holiday, jill scott, joni mitchell, saul williams, john coltrane, soad, dj shadow, roy hargrove, 4-tet, edith piaf, cat empire, faith no more...



movies: recently seen... old boy eek team america, the last samurai, the ladykillers, the eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, shaolin kung fu master, jackie brown, shrek 2, shogun assassin, midnight express, lotr, seven samurai & magnificent seven double bill, kill bill 1 & 2, confessions of a dangerous mind, eraserhead, princess mononoke, a beautiful mind, pay it forward, adaptation, waking life.

favourites... shogun assassin, requium for a dream, anything by lynch, kevin smith or the coen brothers or anything written by charlie kaufmann.



books: recent... hiding the elephant, illuminatus trilogy, philosophical investigations, a book on nlp, shogun, oracle night, peter cook '...only twin', the curious incident of the dog in the night time, lord of the rings trilogy (first time ever - it didn't disappoint!), the complete winnie-the-pooh collection, of mice and men, vurt (again), chocky, brave new world, dune, falling out of cars, alice's adventures in wonderland.

favourite authors... jeff noon, iain banks, robert anton wilson and comic/graphic novel writers that only fanboys like me have ever heard of (brian michael bendis, j. m. staczynski, kevin smith, alan moore, greg rucker, brian azzarello).



tv: was invented solely to distribute the league and the boosh to the masses.



favourite colour(s): both of them - black and white smile



favourite number: three - its magic don't ya know?

i never had a favourite number until last year so i thought i may as well put it up here with the rest of the useless information.



cole

and a quick note about that orange 'grumpy' face on the top of all my posts - i'm not mean or unhappy, nor does it suggest that i'm angry in every post i make.

i just think its cooler than the regular pin-in-a-post-it message icon. and it makes it easy to spot my own posts cos it rarely gets used by anyone else. and its orange and black.

cole





and now for posterity's sake, my old sig list:



the original guru quote:

'its often easier to give advice,

than it is for a person to run one's own life'



the art lift:

if i am who i am because of who i am

and you are who you are because of who you are

then i am who i am and you are who you are

however...

if i am who i am because of who you are

and you are who you are because of who i am

then i am not who i am and you are not who you are



on the brink of war:

the horror



is that dave?:

you're myyyy wiiife noooooooooow...



confusing nix? with some bill hicks:

"here's tom with the weather..."



cryptic or just argumentative?:

a windmill in a fountain is like a spoon in the matrix...



its always a good idea to learn to swim:

mom's gonna fix it all soon.

mom's coming round to put it back the way it ought to be.



cassette boy's jewish doctor:

"you're dead.

GOD TOLD ME."



ever had a watch up your ass?:

"If any of you people disagree, I loathe you. I despise you. If I ever meet you in person, I'll smash your brains in with a f***ing bat. Then we'll see who doesn't like hot dogs."



karma:


Non-Https Image Link




the end of the beginning:

silencio...



*never* become a performer:

"i felt so strongly that I belonged in that triangle that I started sleeping in it - you can imagine what this did for my home life..."



beware the renaissance gentleman:

"on the contrary george of asda: you will tell us... everything."



boo! shhhhh...

"i'm gonna snap your nose off and toss it at a vicar..."



why do we even bother to be here:

how they survive so misguided is a mystery.

repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability,

to lift an eye to heaven, conscious of his fleeting time here.

EDITED_BY: coleman (1178054280)

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood


UCOFSILVER Member
15,417 posts
Location: South Wales


Posted:
Kat= reading was a blinder..

Bam- your just special and you desperve and really hoooge hug.


Coleman- this trigonometry stick smells better than you, and are you really asking what a tuck turn is?!!?!

colemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
yes jon i am - can you teach me?

it was a fair question though seeing as i can only do the windmill one way, can't do a 4bt windmill either way, can't do split-time same direction reels, can't do normal rev hyperloops, can't do two of the four btb waistwraps, can only do one full waistwrap, can't do any btl stuff, can't do an continuous 441 with clubs, can't tie my left shoe after three in the aftrnoon, can't walk into a kitchen without rading it for toast and marmite and can't remember how i got started on this.

i blame you.

[edit: ahem. it seems i can do a continuous 441 with clubs now and a 5313 (with right hand doing the 5's as triples and the 1's as a pass) but now one of my clubs is in my neighbours garden, and its raining ]

[ 06. September 2003, 10:30: Message edited by: coleman ]

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood


CantusSILVER Member
Tantamount to fatuity
15,967 posts
Location: Down the road, United Kingdom


Posted:
I can do a tuck turn

I can't do a 5 beat (although to be fair i don't practice very ever) but i can do a fairly convincing double tuck weave thingy.


Still can't see what the appeal of poi might be....

Meh


Helz BellzSILVER Member
lovin' it...
2,444 posts
Location: Bristol!, United Kingdom


Posted:
quote:
Originally posted by coleman:
i am off work now and i have codeine which is f*ckin ace
Yep...gotta agree with you on that one

one more sleep...one more sleep...

Can't wait to be back in london, and see you honey. Bam's mentioned lunch, maybe on Monday - I'm gonna take another week off work

Live well, love much, laugh often...

Official O.B.E.S.E. cheerleader


MoohaahaaBRONZE Member
enthusiast
382 posts
Location: In Ger Land, India


Posted:
Its raining where you are. Heehee. It was rainig were I am, but now I'm less annoyed.

I'm gonna be there soon though, so stop it raining. I saw Cole do all 4 btb weaistwraps in a row once. Oh how he lies, the nose growing whoo haaa that he be. But he can't tie his shoe laces. After 3pm. Lunch time Junky.

Hells is alive and posting

SexyMinx

I feel insprired to rhyme.
I love it when I've drunk wine
That time is now
Dont have a cow
Bart is in all of us
He taught us to cuss
I'm so full of it
But its all shit

Haa haaa haa. Could be a rapper, I swears to ya's all (ma beeatches)

I think its great, really I do. I challenge you all to do better.
Night

Some things you have to see to believe, but
Some things you have to believe in to see.


bluecatgeek, level 1
5,300 posts
Location: everywhere


Posted:
so what is a tuck turn?

Holistic Spinner (I hope)


CantusSILVER Member
Tantamount to fatuity
15,967 posts
Location: Down the road, United Kingdom


Posted:
Dunno, i'm not a spinner...

Meh


bluecatgeek, level 1
5,300 posts
Location: everywhere


Posted:
so i hear.

does it involve interesting plastic surgery do you think?

Holistic Spinner (I hope)


bluecatgeek, level 1
5,300 posts
Location: everywhere


Posted:
hey cole just wanted to say 2 things


1. you're a nerd(well done)
2. can you teach me siteswap notation?


R

Holistic Spinner (I hope)


colemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
i got caught in one beauty of a nerd trap mr cat.

siteswap? essential for the nerdiest of conversations

i learnt most of what i know from this article.

and from watching siteswaps lots (michal, peapot and this fake juggler).

it's made me really want to learn four balls now.

still though, will gladly geek out sometime when you get down here.
we could talk about excited state transition diagrams (which believe it or not are juggling related - and they're not just ways for working out how much happier learning rubensteins makes you).

(sorry for not sending you a pm yet but i've been doing nothing but sitting in a room not juggling for the past two weeks )

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood


bluecatgeek, level 1
5,300 posts
Location: everywhere


Posted:
hehe. been doing loads of this stuff(printed article). without knowing.


so without knowing how to write it i have been practising 3 in one hand, 2 in other. **** it does nasty things to your head even if drummig past is there...hmmmm.


Holistic Spinner (I hope)


CantusSILVER Member
Tantamount to fatuity
15,967 posts
Location: Down the road, United Kingdom


Posted:
Ooh it's like reading one of Charkles' old posts.....

Meh


DeepSoulSheepGOLD Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
2,617 posts
Location: Berlin, Ireland


Posted:
I'm currently trying to learn how to juggle 3 balls and decided to print that article off. Whhooaa, big waste of paper.... Can't make head nor tail of it

I live in a world of infinite possibilities.


colemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
i don't now charkles - do he juggle too then?
tee hee, must go over to charles' intro and make an observation about fatherhood and the corresponding importance of 52512...

mr soulsheep, just go with this bit of the article for now:

The Siteswap Idea: for each throw, write down the (maximum) number of throws that occur before that ball is thrown again. In other words, call a throw an N if while that ball is in the air, N-1 other throws occur.

the most important thing other than that are the vanilla restrictions which say:

1. The hands always alternate - in particular, only one hand at a time.
2. Only one throw is done at a time: no multiplexing.

there is also a version of siteswap for synchronous patterns but don't mention it to glass or he will confuse you with his proof that an increased speed inverse cascade is the box

the 'fake juggler' link up there is seriously worth checking out though man.
type in single numbers to see what each throw looks like (ignore the number of balls chosen for now - it'll make sense later).
there are lots and lots of wicked patterns to learn from the two preset libraries (i can do nowhere near all of them) and you don't need to know a thing about sitswap to copy the juggling stickman.

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood


DeepSoulSheepGOLD Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
2,617 posts
Location: Berlin, Ireland


Posted:
Coool I just entered 52512 in the fake juggler thing. Gotta try that juggle later looks cool and not too difficult...

I live in a world of infinite possibilities.


MoohaahaaBRONZE Member
enthusiast
382 posts
Location: In Ger Land, India


Posted:
Siweswap is great
Fluffy names are nice as well though
How does siteswap explain mills mess

What does a half shower look like, when you arn't talking about juggling

Some things you have to see to believe, but
Some things you have to believe in to see.


CantusSILVER Member
Tantamount to fatuity
15,967 posts
Location: Down the road, United Kingdom


Posted:
Perhaps it would be wise of me to point out that i refer to Charkles as Charkles. So you don't think it's a spelling mistake.

He started it himself when he accused someone else of mis-speling his name. Then it turned out he'd been mistaken. So I've called him Charkles ever since.....


Not particularly funny but it keeps me amused.

Meh


colemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
i stand corrected.

siteswap doesn't deal with mills mess really.

unless you accept for example "(33)441 mills"...?

always start mills with right hand under left (or something that actually defines where to start mills may be more appropriate here ).
now the three(s) in brackets are only juggled the first time you start the mills pattern with the hands. having 0, 1 or 2 three's in the brackets lets you change which ball in the mills to start the siteswap with.
however, no-one but us knows this.

i thought about this the other night when i was trying to make the fake juggler (see above) juggle all three 441 mills.
i had to type 3441441441441441441441441441441441441 to see one and when it got to the end it did the next one and so on.
i might suggest the brackets thing to the bloke who wrote it...
or maybe just read the instructions...

imagine a plank is strapped to your back.
then imagine trying to wash yourself in a shower made for a hobbit.
the result is your mythical 'real life 5223'.

goodnight

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood


bluecatgeek, level 1
5,300 posts
Location: everywhere


Posted:
quote:
Originally posted by coleman:
imagine a plank is strapped to your back.
then imagine trying to wash yourself in a shower made for a hobbit.
the result is your mythical 'real life 5223'.

(wouldn't you end up with a dirty stripe where the plank was?)

Holistic Spinner (I hope)


MoohaahaaBRONZE Member
enthusiast
382 posts
Location: In Ger Land, India


Posted:
Do Hobbits have showers?
I have never read of such an occurance, nor seen it in one of those moving pictures.
Maybe it just doesn´t make for good reading.
But they do seem to never change or wash their cloths.
I feel a certain empathy towards hobbits.

Although I am wearing a clean shirt today.

Apart from the blood
Damn my aching tit

Some things you have to see to believe, but
Some things you have to believe in to see.


CharlesBRONZE Member
Corporate Circus Arts Entertainer
3,989 posts
Location: Auckland, New Zealand


Posted:
OK...I thought I'd be social and come into this 'ere thread.

Hm, unwashed hobbits, clean bloody shirts and sore tits?

Maybe I'll just creep back out again...

HoP Posting Guidelines
* Is it the Truth?
* Is it Fair to all concerned?
* Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
* Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?


bluecatgeek, level 1
5,300 posts
Location: everywhere


Posted:
morning cole.

what exactly do you htink you are doing on page 5? eh? eh?


just ordered myself 6 new pirouettes. mmmmmm.


will i be seeing you later?


R

Holistic Spinner (I hope)


KatBRONZE Member
Pooh-Bah
2,211 posts
Location: London, Wales (UK)


Posted:
Coming to play at the weekend? Hope so young man and I don't want to hear any excuses (unless you have a wonderful party to go to elsewhere and then that is entirely excusable!)

Sooooo, we still have to organise a Cafe Tooting smoking session, but all my Saturdays are busy for ages and all my Fridays I have to be a good girl as I have class Sat. mornings. What about a Sunday afternoon cafe session soon? I figure Teppanyaki (indoor bbq, nyummy!), chai galore and oodles and oodles of smoke and shisha would be perfect to help dull the pain of being forced indoors again.

Oh and downstairs of cafe cairo is free to groups of 30 people to rent out but they need to supply their own DJ. Whether by renting it out you would be able to get away with a sneaky sliff or not I don't know though.

Still for a wee gathering of us, Cafe Tooting could be a good option. Throw some dates at me so we can hopefully do something before Tia goes home We wanted to throw a party but we don't have a free Saturday night between us until November.

Come faeries, take me out of this dull world, for I would ride with you upon the wind and dance upon the mountains like a flame.

- W B Yeats


Helz BellzSILVER Member
lovin' it...
2,444 posts
Location: Bristol!, United Kingdom


Posted:
Is Master Coleman coming out to party this weekend??

oooooh please, pwetty please....

Haven't been out partying with you in ages

Live well, love much, laugh often...

Official O.B.E.S.E. cheerleader


colemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
hels - - i'm being a *very* cheeky munkee this weekend
i had planned to go to the imperial gardens party, until last weekend when a heard a rumour...

lost vagueness.
in london.
saturday night

needless to say all other plans were immediately put on hold and remain so until this is confirmed/denied.

kat - - i am free every sunday for about two months now! however, i suggest doing it on a day that doesn't follow a massive party - i thought after liquid would be ideal but then realised keeping numbers low after that party would probably present quite a challenge! let me know when you are happy to have guests and i will be on your doorstep quicker than you can say "skin up coleman or you don't get any teppanyaki"

rob - should see you on sunday at clapham if you're there? i warn ya though, if you have your harem of pirouettes i will pester you to help my passing progress above the 'oh-my-god-could-you-get-any-worse-at-this' stage.
massive hugs to you man

i've just been on rec.juggling (i feel like such a board-slut!) and enquiring into the anti-poi sentiment displayed by far too many jugglers. hold on, i'll just check back...

...

ah-ha! a faint rumour has arisen that someone made a joke three years ago and it stuck
the investigation continues...

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood


DomBRONZE Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,009 posts
Location: Bristol, UK


Posted:
Lost Vagueness is a bit of a shame - was planning to go but it was too costly for most people and out in Sussex. Now it's moved to London to be easier to get to, but tickets no longer available https://www.lostvagueness.com/machine.htm
Lost Vagueness is very, very cool indeed! Danced my little legs off there a few times at Glasters.

Was browsing rec.juggling this morning - a plait of poi spinners Do a search and you'll find a post from 2000 about the LAP and some discussion. Basically if jugglers find something too easy to do then they don't think there's any skill potential in it. Needs geeks like you to dispell that idea

BamBamPooh-Bah
1,810 posts
Location: London


Posted:
Lord Cole what are your plans for Saturday night now....

long time no bimble lets sort it out babe

Bammy

A kiss blown is a kiss wasted, the only kind of kiss is a kiss tasted.

I'm a woman. We don't say what we want, but we reserve the right to be pissed off if we don't get it. That's what makes us so fascinating and not just a LITTLE bit scary.


colemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
i'm quite up for a bit of a skulk to be honest.
bimbling sounds like it involves a little too much moving around for my liking.
imperial gardens sounds the ideal place i reckon

no lost vagueness is a shame though cheers for the heads up dom (but i will never believe you have 'little legs' as you so claim!).

i went to a squat party about two years ago in elephant and castle.
about two in the morning with lucy way up there somewhere ( ) i wandered into another building then up some stairs and found myself in a working bar and casino.
at a squat party.
it was quite possibly the most surreal experience of my life.
the full fancy dress thing was going on and all my friend could do was stare incredulously and say "no but-- is it real?!" over and over again.
lost vagueness kick ass

and for those that know him, that party was where sketchy steve got the 'sketch' part of his handle...

meeeeeemoriiiiies - da, da, da, da, da, da ,da!

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood


Helz BellzSILVER Member
lovin' it...
2,444 posts
Location: Bristol!, United Kingdom


Posted:


Live well, love much, laugh often...

Official O.B.E.S.E. cheerleader


CantusSILVER Member
Tantamount to fatuity
15,967 posts
Location: Down the road, United Kingdom


Posted:
But how did sketchy steve get the y part of his handle?


And how did the elephant get his trunk?

Meh


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