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Login/Join to ParticipateAn angry young man with a passon for metal
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Location: Wagga Wagga, N.S.W, Australia
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Location: Wagga Wagga, N.S.W, Australia
Posted:
well i was in Juggle art a couple of dayz ago.and i was looking at these glow staffs and pois. they are sweet and look cool to but they are still laking something. when i play with fire staffs/pois i get this thrill that nothing else (and i am not an arsoist there is no thrill in distruction of lifes!). it not the same with glow stick, of any thing else that isn't flammable is it me or is fire addictive? (joke)and does any one else gets this feeling also.i don't know.just wanted to know.thanxfireboyfreeky_fireboy@madmail.com
well i was in Juggle art a couple of dayz ago.and i was looking at these glow staffs and pois. they are sweet and look cool to but they are still laking something. when i play with fire staffs/pois i get this thrill that nothing else (and i am not an arsoist there is no thrill in distruction of lifes!). it not the same with glow stick, of any thing else that isn't flammable is it me or is fire addictive? (joke)and does any one else gets this feeling also.i don't know.just wanted to know.thanxfireboyfreeky_fireboy@madmail.com
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Location: London, England.
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Posted:
I think you have to view them as essentially different things altogether, not that one is necessarily better than the other.For me, I like practice Poi because I can do a lot more with them, the time is not restricted, I can have fun inside (which is a big deal in London!) and I know I'm not going to hurt myself too much.
I can get into the “Zone” a lot more easily and develop my style more – I love being able to just flow with music and let my body express itself the way it wants to…With Fire, there's the sound itself (which is completely mesmerising), the added sense of danger, respect and accompanying adrenal response. It's a shorter and far more exhilarating experience granted, but not necessarily better.That’s how I feel anyway…what does everyone else think?
I think you have to view them as essentially different things altogether, not that one is necessarily better than the other.For me, I like practice Poi because I can do a lot more with them, the time is not restricted, I can have fun inside (which is a big deal in London!) and I know I'm not going to hurt myself too much.
I can get into the “Zone” a lot more easily and develop my style more – I love being able to just flow with music and let my body express itself the way it wants to…With Fire, there's the sound itself (which is completely mesmerising), the added sense of danger, respect and accompanying adrenal response. It's a shorter and far more exhilarating experience granted, but not necessarily better.That’s how I feel anyway…what does everyone else think? SILVER Member
Liquid Cow
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Location: High Wycombe, England
Liquid Cow
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Location: High Wycombe, England
Posted:
I agree completely with Carrey, they both have their own place and their own benefits - neither is better than the other, just different------------------Bovril - It's liquid cow y'know
I agree completely with Carrey, they both have their own place and their own benefits - neither is better than the other, just different------------------Bovril - It's liquid cow y'know
But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
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Location: Bentley Alberta Canada
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Location: Bentley Alberta Canada
Posted:
not to be trashin fire, but people are usually more likely to let you spin at events if your using glowsticks, because they dont know yu well enough to trust you with fire in a public place. Just a Thought...
not to be trashin fire, but people are usually more likely to let you spin at events if your using glowsticks, because they dont know yu well enough to trust you with fire in a public place. Just a Thought...
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Location: San Diego, California, USA
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Location: San Diego, California, USA
Posted:
The beach is a public place isn't it? But yea, at parties you wouldn't use Fire because it's packed in and probably inside. I've never really thought of people using staff at a party, but then again, I've never been to one.Fire is different than glowie stuff. Glowie stuff stings (and occasionally leaves welts the size of a fork), Fire burns (which tells a whole new story in it's self). Like Carrey said Fire is dangerous but mesmorising like Glowsticks, but in a different sense because you don't get that whoosh sound, only a whish. (I guess?)Kinudin
The beach is a public place isn't it? But yea, at parties you wouldn't use Fire because it's packed in and probably inside. I've never really thought of people using staff at a party, but then again, I've never been to one.Fire is different than glowie stuff. Glowie stuff stings (and occasionally leaves welts the size of a fork), Fire burns (which tells a whole new story in it's self). Like Carrey said Fire is dangerous but mesmorising like Glowsticks, but in a different sense because you don't get that whoosh sound, only a whish. (I guess?
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Location: Holiday, FL, USA
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Location: Holiday, FL, USA
Posted:
Kinudin.. you've never been to a party? not even a birthday party?
Kinudin.. you've never been to a party? not even a birthday party?
NYC
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Location: NYC, NY, USA
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Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
OH come on people! I wanted to hear the old "FIRE VS. GLOWSTICK" arguement again!!! This is no fun with everyone agreeing and such... c'mon.. make rash accusations and generalizations and such... insult whatever you don't do... let's work together here people!!!
OH come on people! I wanted to hear the old "FIRE VS. GLOWSTICK" arguement again!!! This is no fun with everyone agreeing and such... c'mon.. make rash accusations and generalizations and such... insult whatever you don't do... let's work together here people!!!
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Location: panama
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Location: panama
Posted:
Well im a Glowtick and photon spinner ummmi have notice 3 stuff1-Glowtticks looks really good when you doing for example a weave... looks better side to side than if you look it in front of you2-Photons looks better if you do move like Corkscrew and helicopter stuff like that where the light shine yer face ummm3-i dont spin fire but fire looks good anywhere you look it side to side in front or whatever...Dont know if you got what im saying my english kinda sucks
Well im a Glowtick and photon spinner ummmi have notice 3 stuff1-Glowtticks looks really good when you doing for example a weave... looks better side to side than if you look it in front of you2-Photons looks better if you do move like Corkscrew and helicopter stuff like that where the light shine yer face ummm3-i dont spin fire but fire looks good anywhere you look it side to side in front or whatever...Dont know if you got what im saying my english kinda sucks
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Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land
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Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land
Posted:
*LOL at NYC!*
*LOL at NYC!*
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Location: London UK
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Location: London UK
Posted:
Fire is a hassle, but it's so much easier to impress people. Glowsticks are better for the discerning performer who concentrates more on tricks (or is too lazy for fire). Most people aren't impressed by glowsticks AT ALL as far as I have seen, in my experiencePlus you can't breath glowsticks. This alone is a turnoff for most people... [image]https://www.homeofpoi.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif">------------------[/image] - William ShakespeareCheck out my Online Gallery!ß £ Å Ĉ К ß î я Ð
Fire is a hassle, but it's so much easier to impress people. Glowsticks are better for the discerning performer who concentrates more on tricks (or is too lazy for fire). Most people aren't impressed by glowsticks AT ALL as far as I have seen, in my experience
Plus you can't breath glowsticks. This alone is a turnoff for most people... [image]https://www.homeofpoi.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif">------------------[/image] - William ShakespeareCheck out my Online Gallery!ß £ Å Ĉ К ß î я Ð x X x ß £ Å Ĉ К ß î я Ð x X x
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Location: Christchurch
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Location: Christchurch
Posted:
I love my fire poi....but as mentioned above...it is a limited time to spin before they go out, so I made myself some light poi. Now these are no ordinary glowy things...these are super bright, and look damn flash when twirled...with the lights leaving a trail on your retina...think of mini light sabers from starwars being twirled and you will have some idea of the effect...it is just lights in plastic tube, but they are damn good!!! I think that technology is good, but I still love my fire for the primative reason that everyone loves fire!!!I think different situations call for different poi, which is why I have both!!!------------------fe fi foo fun
I love my fire poi....but as mentioned above...it is a limited time to spin before they go out, so I made myself some light poi. Now these are no ordinary glowy things...these are super bright, and look damn flash when twirled...with the lights leaving a trail on your retina...think of mini light sabers from starwars being twirled and you will have some idea of the effect...it is just lights in plastic tube, but they are damn good!!! I think that technology is good, but I still love my fire for the primative reason that everyone loves fire!!!I think different situations call for different poi, which is why I have both!!!------------------fe fi foo fun
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Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Location: Pennsylvania, USA
Posted:
i can just imagine the peremedics and the fire-fighters coming to put out someone* who set themself on fire.. *cough* i think i'll wait a while to start fire..*me
i can just imagine the peremedics and the fire-fighters coming to put out someone* who set themself on fire.. *cough* i think i'll wait a while to start fire..*me
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Location: San Jose California
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Location: San Jose California
Posted:
I've never had the feeling that glowsticks were alive. I feel the fire looking at me. I know the fire is older and wiser than I am. Fire is as close to God as man can stand.
I've never had the feeling that glowsticks were alive. I feel the fire looking at me. I know the fire is older and wiser than I am. Fire is as close to God as man can stand.
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Location: panama
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Location: panama
Posted:
Black bird is all right...i concentrate more in tricks more than anything.. i like having lot of tricks i find kinda boring someone doing a few tricks over and over:PJeez noones has spinned Photons?:/all the comments of glowsticks or fire...Photons are kinda cool... IMHO...
Black bird is all right...i concentrate more in tricks more than anything.. i like having lot of tricks i find kinda boring someone doing a few tricks over and over:PJeez noones has spinned Photons?:/all the comments of glowsticks or fire...Photons are kinda cool... IMHO...
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NYC
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Location: NYC, NY, USA
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Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
"You can't breathe glowstick"? Clearly you've never been to Boston.
"You can't breathe glowstick"? Clearly you've never been to Boston.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Location: Mystic, Ct. USA
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Location: Mystic, Ct. USA
Posted:
unfortunately i made the glow-pipe into a fire staff...because clearly fire is bettershhh! dont give away our secret toy! its the only one we have!pere
unfortunately i made the glow-pipe into a fire staff...because clearly fire is better
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
still can't believe it's not butter
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted:
One thing i love to do is.... no wait the court ordered me not to mention it.... BUT! another thing i like to do is twirl mixed fire / electroglow staves. It's the nicest n clearest way to show the audience staff swapping moves. I considered diff flame colour but decided to not to cop cancer.Twirly whirly!------------------"It takes a very special woman.... or several average ones"- Bill Hicks on the strain of stand up comedy
One thing i love to do is.... no wait the court ordered me not to mention it.... BUT! another thing i like to do is twirl mixed fire / electroglow staves. It's the nicest n clearest way to show the audience staff swapping moves. I considered diff flame colour but decided to not to cop cancer.Twirly whirly!------------------"It takes a very special woman.... or several average ones"- Bill Hicks on the strain of stand up comedy
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Location: San Diego, California, USA
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Location: San Diego, California, USA
Posted:
Yeah, I've been to a Birthday Party but that's full of Pin the tail on the donkey and bowling (the most interesting party I've had is a LAN party... that's about it) nothing with spinning/twirling involved!
Yeah, I've been to a Birthday Party but that's full of Pin the tail on the donkey and bowling (the most interesting party I've had is a LAN party... that's about it) nothing with spinning/twirling involved!
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Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
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Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posted:
the only people that use glow are cracked out kandi kids high on e. raver babies with nothing more to do than show off to their cracked out friends sucking pacifiers.fire is the best. 
(there you go NYC - is that more like the good ole days? )
the only people that use glow are cracked out kandi kids high on e. raver babies with nothing more to do than show off to their cracked out friends sucking pacifiers.fire is the best.
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Location: panama
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Location: panama
Posted:
ok reread that post so i edithed
didnt read this part"(there you go NYC - is that more like the good ole days? "[This message has been edited by NightShade1 (edited 19 January 2002).]
ok reread that post so i edithed
didnt read this part"(there you go NYC - is that more like the good ole days? "[This message has been edited by NightShade1 (edited 19 January 2002).] Dance like if noone were watching you
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Location: NY, USA
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Location: NY, USA
Posted:
Nightshade, I do hope you realize flash was kidding But Flash is right Fire Rulez glowsticks drool ------------------Care of other people's approval and you become their prisoner.Live fully, Rave wholly.Fluid are the movements of my strings...
Nightshade, I do hope you realize flash was kidding
But Flash is right Fire Rulez glowsticks drool ------------------Care of other people's approval and you become their prisoner.Live fully, Rave wholly.Fluid are the movements of my strings... Care of other people's approval and you become their prisoner.Live fully, Rave wholly.Fluid are the movements of my strings...
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Location: panama
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Location: panama
Posted:
i dont careglowstick are cool photons are cool fire is cool all of them are coolI think it more important how SOMEONE twirl not what he twirls... :P [This message has been edited by NightShade1 (edited 19 January 2002).]
i dont care
glowstick are cool photons are cool fire is cool all of them are coolI think it more important how SOMEONE twirl not what he twirls... :P [This message has been edited by NightShade1 (edited 19 January 2002).] Dance like if noone were watching you
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Location: Upland, CA., USA
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Location: Upland, CA., USA
Posted:
I confess to being a fire chauvinist. I used to really look down on glowstick twirling, until I tried it in the proper context--at a rave with UV lights everywhere, in a crowd of mixed twirlers, light staffs, laser lights; a huge sound system going BOOM-BOOM-BOOM, plenty of ice-cold beer, and a proper buzz.Maximus
I confess to being a fire chauvinist. I used to really look down on glowstick twirling, until I tried it in the proper context--at a rave with UV lights everywhere, in a crowd of mixed twirlers, light staffs, laser lights; a huge sound system going BOOM-BOOM-BOOM, plenty of ice-cold beer, and a proper buzz.Maximus
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Location: Hartford, CT USA
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Location: Hartford, CT USA
Posted:
:sigh: i myself am deficient in the fire twirling department because i have nonconsenting parents, but i can still impress the hell out of people with glowsticks, and in some cases i do actually like the look of glowsticksfirst off, you gotta get the rigth glowsticks, the little green six inch ones are ok, but i mean come on, they get so fricking boring after awhile, and thats one advantage about glowsticks, they have an incredible range of colors that are easily obtained, unlike fire. Glowsticks also i think leave better trails than fire to the naked eye, ecspecially in fog...glowsticking gives you acess to a wider range of people as you can do it at almost any event without fear of burning something down, thus you being able to show off your skills to more people (sorry thats a selfish one, but hey, im full of myself)oh and yeah, i have two words, high- intensity, those thing are incredible, they light up the whole room and are damn impressiveand ten inchers, those things are cool tooso yeah, there ya go...
:sigh: i myself am deficient in the fire twirling department because i have nonconsenting parents, but i can still impress the hell out of people with glowsticks, and in some cases i do actually like the look of glowsticksfirst off, you gotta get the rigth glowsticks, the little green six inch ones are ok, but i mean come on, they get so fricking boring after awhile, and thats one advantage about glowsticks, they have an incredible range of colors that are easily obtained, unlike fire. Glowsticks also i think leave better trails than fire to the naked eye, ecspecially in fog...glowsticking gives you acess to a wider range of people as you can do it at almost any event without fear of burning something down, thus you being able to show off your skills to more people (sorry thats a selfish one, but hey, im full of myself)oh and yeah, i have two words, high- intensity, those thing are incredible, they light up the whole room and are damn impressiveand ten inchers, those things are cool tooso yeah, there ya go...
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Location: panama
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Location: panama
Posted:
"(sorry thats a selfish one, but hey, im full of myself)"haha Lmao;pi also like more glowsticks or photons cause you can spin everywhere and noones will tell ya dont do it... ;p
"(sorry thats a selfish one, but hey, im full of myself)"haha Lmao;pi also like more glowsticks or photons cause you can spin everywhere and noones will tell ya dont do it... ;p
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NYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
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Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
There ya' go Flash fire... Way to remember the good old days... You go with your hippie, non-bathing, unemployed, tree hugging, pot smoking, two hours late for everything, leather wearing vegetarian, burning man-sellout, change begging, big business hating but cigarette smoking, left wing cuz it goes with your wardrobe, counterculture-cuz-you're-not-cool-enough-to-hang-with-the-popular-kids fire spinners...See kids... THAT'S how you start a fight.(You know I love you all...)By the way, I really love both my fire poi and my sauce lights. Someone once said "Apples and oranges". Oh yeah, that was me.
There ya' go Flash fire... Way to remember the good old days... You go with your hippie, non-bathing, unemployed, tree hugging, pot smoking, two hours late for everything, leather wearing vegetarian, burning man-sellout, change begging, big business hating but cigarette smoking, left wing cuz it goes with your wardrobe, counterculture-cuz-you're-not-cool-enough-to-hang-with-the-popular-kids fire spinners...See kids... THAT'S how you start a fight.
(You know I love you all...)By the way, I really love both my fire poi and my sauce lights. Someone once said "Apples and oranges". Oh yeah, that was me. Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Location: England, just north of London
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Location: England, just north of London
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NYC: I love your fighting-talk style. Fire is hot, Glowsticks are not. Fire is dangerous, Glowsticks are not. What are audiences (being entertainment hungry and fickle) wanting? Do a fantastic trick with Glowsticks or do a mediocre trick with fire and they'll be impressed to the same degree.Fire appeals to our primeval (sp) fears so maybe, to impress our audiences more, we should try the same tricks but with poisonous snakes, spiders or sabretooth tigers.
NYC: I love your fighting-talk style. Fire is hot, Glowsticks are not. Fire is dangerous, Glowsticks are not. What are audiences (being entertainment hungry and fickle) wanting? Do a fantastic trick with Glowsticks or do a mediocre trick with fire and they'll be impressed to the same degree.Fire appeals to our primeval (sp) fears so maybe, to impress our audiences more, we should try the same tricks but with poisonous snakes, spiders or sabretooth tigers.
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Location: London UK
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Location: London UK
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Right... poi with itty bitty cages on the ends with poisonous spiders in them. A real crowd puller, I can imagine [image]https://www.homeofpoi.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif">------------------[/image] - William ShakespeareCheck out my Online Gallery!ß £ Å Ĉ К ß î я Ð
Right... poi with itty bitty cages on the ends with poisonous spiders in them. A real crowd puller, I can imagine [image]https://www.homeofpoi.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif">------------------[/image] - William ShakespeareCheck out my Online Gallery!ß £ Å Ĉ К ß î я Ð
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416 posts
Location: Hartford, CT USA
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Location: Hartford, CT USA
Posted:
ooo!!! ooo!!!holding venomous nakes by the tail and twirling em!!!!now theres a sport
ooo!!! ooo!!!holding venomous nakes by the tail and twirling em!!!!now theres a sport
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still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia
still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted:
Lol, NYC you have hit it on the nail about this messy debate. I dunno about everyone else's neck of the woods, but the melbourne twirling scene is not without it's pretentious fux.Who cares what eveyone else thinks, glowsticks and fire kick total ass in a big way - and importantly, they kick ass in different ways. I found that aside from practice, the best thing for my twirling was the support and praise that others gave after each performance.Like with twirlers-jugglers, being adversarial about the difference between Fire and glow just unneccesarily creates division when there should be tree-hugging, alsation humping fun!This thread shoudl emphasis twirling as a fire AND glowies, not fire vs. glowies.Besides, all your belong to us!------------------I am not a bot.*** END STATEMENT ***
Lol, NYC you have hit it on the nail about this messy debate. I dunno about everyone else's neck of the woods, but the melbourne twirling scene is not without it's pretentious fux.Who cares what eveyone else thinks, glowsticks and fire kick total ass in a big way - and importantly, they kick ass in different ways. I found that aside from practice, the best thing for my twirling was the support and praise that others gave after each performance.Like with twirlers-jugglers, being adversarial about the difference between Fire and glow just unneccesarily creates division when there should be tree-hugging, alsation humping fun!This thread shoudl emphasis twirling as a fire AND glowies, not fire vs. glowies.Besides, all your belong to us!------------------I am not a bot.*** END STATEMENT ***
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spinning for ages
125 posts
Location: Christchurch
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Location: Christchurch
Posted:
Actually now that I think about it....We have used the light poi as a warm up/starter for our fire shows...just something to get the crowd looking before we impress the hell out of them with the fire....yeh... fire rocks!!!Lights and the crowd goes ooh ahh...prettyFire and the crowd goes WOW!! FIRE!!! DANGEROUS!!------------------fe fi foo fun
Actually now that I think about it....We have used the light poi as a warm up/starter for our fire shows...just something to get the crowd looking before we impress the hell out of them with the fire....yeh... fire rocks!!!Lights and the crowd goes ooh ahh...prettyFire and the crowd goes WOW!! FIRE!!! DANGEROUS!!------------------fe fi foo fun
fe fi foo fun
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