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Location: NYC, NY, USA
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
So I'm making a new pair of cathedral wicks and attempting to, for the first time, make them right.
5' of kevlar per wick, interweave style, with a 2" to 3" eyebolt through them. My question is:
How do I get the eyebolt through them? I saw Nomad working his butt off to get an awl through the wicking once he made the cathedral. But it would be much easier to just drill a hole through them. But would a drill break too many of the fibers and cause the kevlar to unravel?
Help!
And how do I keep the nuts on?
So I'm making a new pair of cathedral wicks and attempting to, for the first time, make them right.
5' of kevlar per wick, interweave style, with a 2" to 3" eyebolt through them. My question is:
How do I get the eyebolt through them? I saw Nomad working his butt off to get an awl through the wicking once he made the cathedral. But it would be much easier to just drill a hole through them. But would a drill break too many of the fibers and cause the kevlar to unravel?
Help!
And how do I keep the nuts on?
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Location: tampa fl usa
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Location: tampa fl usa
Posted:
Nyc i dont think you will be able to drill through them .even if the twist will go through the kevlar it will get caught up in the thread and twist it up.. what i use is a ice pick to start the hole then strech it out running two diferent size #2 then # 3 phillps screw driver through it.. I make some wicks that have 6' of wick per poi they are a bitch to get through but it only takes me about 5 mins
Nyc i dont think you will be able to drill through them .even if the twist will go through the kevlar it will get caught up in the thread and twist it up.. what i use is a ice pick to start the hole then strech it out running two diferent size #2 then # 3 phillps screw driver through it.. I make some wicks that have 6' of wick per poi they are a bitch to get through but it only takes me about 5 mins
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Location: australia
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Location: australia
Posted:
i think the easiest way is to start with the smallest drill bit you have which shouldnt grab too many fibres. then progressively get bigger. it takes a bit of work but after a while you develop a bit of a knack... thats how i do it anyway! good luck
i think the easiest way is to start with the smallest drill bit you have which shouldnt grab too many fibres. then progressively get bigger. it takes a bit of work but after a while you develop a bit of a knack... thats how i do it anyway! good luck
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Location: australia
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Location: australia
Posted:
also with keeping them on, try a product called loctite which is a heat resistant superglue or any heat resistant superglue will do
also with keeping them on, try a product called loctite which is a heat resistant superglue or any heat resistant superglue will do
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Are we there yet?
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Location: australia
Are we there yet?
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Location: australia
Posted:
Far be it from me to say to you NYC, do a search
We must have had the discussion while you were away, check it out:
Getting your eye in
Far be it from me to say to you NYC, do a search
We must have had the discussion while you were away, check it out:
Getting your eye in
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Carpal \'Tunnel
3,899 posts
Location: Austin, Texas, USA
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,899 posts
Location: Austin, Texas, USA
Posted:
When I make cathedral wicks, I just push the eyebolt thru each layer as I fold it instead of doing all the folding and then trying to push the eyebolt thru. It is relatively easy to get the eyebolt thru a single layer of Kevlar.
When I make cathedral wicks, I just push the eyebolt thru each layer as I fold it instead of doing all the folding and then trying to push the eyebolt thru. It is relatively easy to get the eyebolt thru a single layer of Kevlar.
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poo-bah
1,015 posts
Location: Austin TX USA
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Location: Austin TX USA
Posted:
I know I've said this before, but here's what seems to work best (for me):
1. Rubber-band your bundle together.
2. Get a big-ass sheetmetal screw--at least as large in diameter as your through-bolt.
3. Get a slim-walled tube of similar diameter, big enough to slip the bolt inside. A good hardware or hobbyist store will have suitable brass tubes for about $1.
4. Drive the screw through the bundle (I use a socket wrench).
5. Back out the screw (I lock the screw into a vice-grip and spin the wick off), and keep the tube against the tip. You've now got a tube inside the bundle.
6. Drop the bolt into the tube and pull the tube out the other side.
This method mostly displaces the yarn, rather than ripping it (it rips a little). This process should take no more than about 10 minutes per wick.
[ 05 September 2002, 04:18: Message edited by: adamrice ]
I know I've said this before, but here's what seems to work best (for me):
1. Rubber-band your bundle together.
2. Get a big-ass sheetmetal screw--at least as large in diameter as your through-bolt.
3. Get a slim-walled tube of similar diameter, big enough to slip the bolt inside. A good hardware or hobbyist store will have suitable brass tubes for about $1.
4. Drive the screw through the bundle (I use a socket wrench).
5. Back out the screw (I lock the screw into a vice-grip and spin the wick off), and keep the tube against the tip. You've now got a tube inside the bundle.
6. Drop the bolt into the tube and pull the tube out the other side.
This method mostly displaces the yarn, rather than ripping it (it rips a little). This process should take no more than about 10 minutes per wick.
[ 05 September 2002, 04:18: Message edited by: adamrice ]
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NYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
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Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
Indeed Ade! My bad, I was on some Greek beach at with Cassandra at the time...
Thanks for the input. I guess I've got lots of options to chose from...
[ 05 September 2002, 10:42: Message edited by: NYC ]
Indeed Ade! My bad, I was on some Greek beach at with Cassandra at the time...
Thanks for the input. I guess I've got lots of options to chose from...
[ 05 September 2002, 10:42: Message edited by: NYC ]
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posted:
A slightly ghetto method of doing it is:
Use a small penknife. Like those useless keychain swiss army knives everyone seems to have.
-Fold the wick up.
-Loosen the first layer, put the penknife through the center, twist it around until you have something resembling a hole, and put the bolt through that.
-Repeat for the rest of the layers, and tighten, etc.
It gets kind of irritating towards the middle, and if you have an end where there wasn't enough to make a complete fold and you were left with a dangly bit that you folded in, do that end first. I've made a couple wicks in this manner, and while they're not the best looking wicks I've seen, they do work.
A slightly ghetto method of doing it is:
Use a small penknife. Like those useless keychain swiss army knives everyone seems to have.
-Fold the wick up.
-Loosen the first layer, put the penknife through the center, twist it around until you have something resembling a hole, and put the bolt through that.
-Repeat for the rest of the layers, and tighten, etc.
It gets kind of irritating towards the middle, and if you have an end where there wasn't enough to make a complete fold and you were left with a dangly bit that you folded in, do that end first. I've made a couple wicks in this manner, and while they're not the best looking wicks I've seen, they do work.
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NYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
Some of y'all are crazy.
I took Malcom's advice from the other thread/Riz's advise and simply stuck a phillips head screwdriver through it, followed by a slightly larger phillips head, followed by the eyebolt. Easily went through 5' of kevlar wick.
It took about two minutes total. And that was with a break to sip some tea.
Some of y'all are crazy.
I took Malcom's advice from the other thread/Riz's advise and simply stuck a phillips head screwdriver through it, followed by a slightly larger phillips head, followed by the eyebolt. Easily went through 5' of kevlar wick.
It took about two minutes total. And that was with a break to sip some tea.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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