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I've been driving for over two years and riding for 6 months and this is my first accident. I came off on a corner 200m from my place and was really lucky not to break any bones. Just want to tell everyone who rides to be really carefull out there. My friend tried to convince me to not buy a motorbike cause his uncle was decapitated in a crash with a ute 18 months after he started to ride. The guy driving the ute ran a stop sign after being told to go home from work cause he was drunk.
My bike is going to cost about a grand to fix but im not sure if i should ever ride again. My intuition says stay the hell off bikes but i love riding so much. I know the wise thing to do but there is so much cognitive dissonance in me. I feel that I cant ride if I have any level of fear or anger in me otherwise I will have another accident. It is however, so easy to fool yourself that you'll be ok and that I'm not angry or afraid of anything. I've spent so many years hiding my emotions from myself as a youngster that I think I now hide my emotions from even myself.
Motorbikes are bloody dangerous, especially for a teenager who doesnt have a strong attachment to this reality. Is is possible for me to ride a motorbike safely, or should I just stay away from them for good?
I've been driving for over two years and riding for 6 months and this is my first accident. I came off on a corner 200m from my place and was really lucky not to break any bones. Just want to tell everyone who rides to be really carefull out there. My friend tried to convince me to not buy a motorbike cause his uncle was decapitated in a crash with a ute 18 months after he started to ride. The guy driving the ute ran a stop sign after being told to go home from work cause he was drunk.
My bike is going to cost about a grand to fix but im not sure if i should ever ride again. My intuition says stay the hell off bikes but i love riding so much. I know the wise thing to do but there is so much cognitive dissonance in me. I feel that I cant ride if I have any level of fear or anger in me otherwise I will have another accident. It is however, so easy to fool yourself that you'll be ok and that I'm not angry or afraid of anything. I've spent so many years hiding my emotions from myself as a youngster that I think I now hide my emotions from even myself.
Motorbikes are bloody dangerous, especially for a teenager who doesnt have a strong attachment to this reality. Is is possible for me to ride a motorbike safely, or should I just stay away from them for good?
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Location: Manchester, England
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Nasty man. I am a fellow bike lover, altho' not mamanged to get my @55 round to buying one yet. Everyone falls off their bike, it's not a question of if but when, as i'm sure you know.
And I totally agree, bikes are really dangerous and the cars that don't see them or just don't take account of them. Half the problem is a traffic education/awareness issue which is really the governments resposibilty to approach, but you can't wait for them to get of there @sses and do something.
I'm sure you'll get the bug back. I don't want to generalise cos I know I see a lot of mature bikers taking ridiculous risks, but in general younger riders with less experience fair worse off when it comes to accident rates. More willing to take the risk with less skill to bail them out if need be. If it really is too much for you to think about getting back on your current bike(I'm assuming it's a race rep) have you thought about going for something a little more sedate/pedestrian. I know this might make you screw your face up(as I don't really entertain much apart from race reps myself), but it might make you think differently while you ride, and maybe not take as many chances.
Just realised I have no idea how you came off, and I'm not suggesting that you were being silly. When it comes down to it, there's no stopping that bloke in the volvo running in to you and saying "sorry didn't see you mate".
btw what bike did/do you ride?
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Nasty man. I am a fellow bike lover, altho' not mamanged to get my @55 round to buying one yet. Everyone falls off their bike, it's not a question of if but when, as i'm sure you know.
And I totally agree, bikes are really dangerous and the cars that don't see them or just don't take account of them. Half the problem is a traffic education/awareness issue which is really the governments resposibilty to approach, but you can't wait for them to get of there @sses and do something.
I'm sure you'll get the bug back. I don't want to generalise cos I know I see a lot of mature bikers taking ridiculous risks, but in general younger riders with less experience fair worse off when it comes to accident rates. More willing to take the risk with less skill to bail them out if need be. If it really is too much for you to think about getting back on your current bike(I'm assuming it's a race rep) have you thought about going for something a little more sedate/pedestrian. I know this might make you screw your face up(as I don't really entertain much apart from race reps myself), but it might make you think differently while you ride, and maybe not take as many chances.
Just realised I have no idea how you came off, and I'm not suggesting that you were being silly. When it comes down to it, there's no stopping that bloke in the volvo running in to you and saying "sorry didn't see you mate".
btw what bike did/do you ride?
N
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I used to ride a 125cc Aprilia a few years ago, and while I didn't come off it I got to know how dangerous it can be. Drains when they're wet, idiot car drivers who can't judge time and distance together,etc...there's loads of potential death traps out there for bikers.
On the fip side though, being on a bike gives you the power to accelerate and stop quickly, and if an accident is happening in front of you it can save your life being able to dodge or stop away from the scene, something not easily achieved in a car. Also, if you're involved in a serious crash it's sometimes better to have been thrown away from the danger than it is to have a ton of metal collapsing in on you.
Riding bikes is dangerous, no doubt, but anything with so much power is dangerous at the end of the day, so if you are gonna ride them then you've just got to always wear as much protective gear as poss, keep your wits about you, and if you are invloved in a crash try to relax your muscles as you fall and slide down that road, becuase it'll make the difference between bad bruising or broken bones.
ez,
I used to ride a 125cc Aprilia a few years ago, and while I didn't come off it I got to know how dangerous it can be. Drains when they're wet, idiot car drivers who can't judge time and distance together,etc...there's loads of potential death traps out there for bikers.
On the fip side though, being on a bike gives you the power to accelerate and stop quickly, and if an accident is happening in front of you it can save your life being able to dodge or stop away from the scene, something not easily achieved in a car. Also, if you're involved in a serious crash it's sometimes better to have been thrown away from the danger than it is to have a ton of metal collapsing in on you.
Riding bikes is dangerous, no doubt, but anything with so much power is dangerous at the end of the day, so if you are gonna ride them then you've just got to always wear as much protective gear as poss, keep your wits about you, and if you are invloved in a crash try to relax your muscles as you fall and slide down that road, becuase it'll make the difference between bad bruising or broken bones.
ez,
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Location: Australia
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I ride a Kawasaki gpx250 or if you're in america a ninja ex250. Yeah its a racing style bike but a good first bike to learn on!
I was cornering at about 50km/h with my left foot peg scraping along the ground when it caught on "something??" and booted my left foot off the peg, My first reaction was to straighten the bike but then I didnt have time to lay it down flat again to take the rest of the corner so I went into the kerb and then into the pavement sliding down the street. I know I should have just laid it flat on the side in the first place but I suppose since I've never crashed before I was more intent on staying on the bike.
I spent this evening taking off the front wheel, mud guard and forks which took ages cause everything was bent out of shape and didnt come off easily!
I ride a Kawasaki gpx250 or if you're in america a ninja ex250. Yeah its a racing style bike but a good first bike to learn on!
I was cornering at about 50km/h with my left foot peg scraping along the ground when it caught on "something??" and booted my left foot off the peg, My first reaction was to straighten the bike but then I didnt have time to lay it down flat again to take the rest of the corner so I went into the kerb and then into the pavement sliding down the street. I know I should have just laid it flat on the side in the first place but I suppose since I've never crashed before I was more intent on staying on the bike.
I spent this evening taking off the front wheel, mud guard and forks which took ages cause everything was bent out of shape and didnt come off easily!
HOW TO FLY 101:
step 1. Throw your self at the ground.
step 2. Miss.
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Location: Manchester, England
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peg to the tarmac hey
It's a learning process innit?
Have one of these
250's and smaller race reps which have a small power band are notoriously more twitchy than bigger bikes, less weight, peaky power, geometry gets all skew wiff faster if something upsets it. But it's better to learn how to handle that on a smaller bike..more feedback, crash at a slower speed with less bike falling on you etc...
On the flip bigger bikes have that stability thing going on...so you might not have be so ruffled if you hit it on a 600+. Swings and roundabouts and all that.
I feel for you man, it must be gutting having to repair your pride an joy after 6 months.
I can't wait to get mine sorted out....I'm too busy at the moment tho as it's festival season
Good luck getting back on the road.
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peg to the tarmac hey
It's a learning process innit?
Have one of these
250's and smaller race reps which have a small power band are notoriously more twitchy than bigger bikes, less weight, peaky power, geometry gets all skew wiff faster if something upsets it. But it's better to learn how to handle that on a smaller bike..more feedback, crash at a slower speed with less bike falling on you etc...
On the flip bigger bikes have that stability thing going on...so you might not have be so ruffled if you hit it on a 600+. Swings and roundabouts and all that.
I feel for you man, it must be gutting having to repair your pride an joy after 6 months.
I can't wait to get mine sorted out....I'm too busy at the moment tho as it's festival season
Good luck getting back on the road.
N
boing...boing...When the naive man admits his naivete, he is no longer naive.Thus, all people are regarded by society as either ignorant or a liar.Wonders never cease, as long as you never cease to wonder.
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Location: Australia
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Nah its not really gutting me at the moment, I see it as a hell sweet learning experience to get to know my bike more intimately!
I've decided that I will ride again after all!
Nah its not really gutting me at the moment, I see it as a hell sweet learning experience to get to know my bike more intimately!
I've decided that I will ride again after all!
HOW TO FLY 101:
step 1. Throw your self at the ground.
step 2. Miss.
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Hey there
bad luck on the prang baby,but id have to agree with the others on the overall splendour of motorbikes!Bloody dangerous,yes,but theres nowt quite like em,im learning to ride at the end of the summer and ah jest cannae wait!!!Saw a silver Ducati last week beeowtifull!!!
Hey there
bad luck on the prang baby,but id have to agree with the others on the overall splendour of motorbikes!Bloody dangerous,yes,but theres nowt quite like em,im learning to ride at the end of the summer and ah jest cannae wait!!!Saw a silver Ducati last week beeowtifull!!!
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Yeah I went to a kawasaki dealer a few days ago to track down a manual and ended up drooling over the new ZX9 and ZX6, but I've actually now decided to customise my bike while fixing it up to make it look wicked, then selling it for an inflated price to what I paid, then next year buying a classic convertible of some sort and a bigger bike to customise again!
The bike bug has bit me and there's no turning back now!!! A bit like the fire bug aye?
Yeah I went to a kawasaki dealer a few days ago to track down a manual and ended up drooling over the new ZX9 and ZX6, but I've actually now decided to customise my bike while fixing it up to make it look wicked, then selling it for an inflated price to what I paid, then next year buying a classic convertible of some sort and a bigger bike to customise again!
The bike bug has bit me and there's no turning back now!!! A bit like the fire bug aye?
HOW TO FLY 101:
step 1. Throw your self at the ground.
step 2. Miss.
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Location: Manchester, England
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Aye the new ZX-6 is supposed to be an absolute beauty from what I've heard. Altho' I think it's a bit ugly. I spotted a new all black CBR600 RR yesterday with tricky underseat exhaust, I nearly left the bus window clean with the amount of drooling done.
Re getting the bug....yeah absolutely, I could talk about bikes and fire all day. Best not to mix the two tho
Aye the new ZX-6 is supposed to be an absolute beauty from what I've heard. Altho' I think it's a bit ugly. I spotted a new all black CBR600 RR yesterday with tricky underseat exhaust, I nearly left the bus window clean with the amount of drooling done.
Re getting the bug....yeah absolutely, I could talk about bikes and fire all day. Best not to mix the two tho
boing...boing...When the naive man admits his naivete, he is no longer naive.Thus, all people are regarded by society as either ignorant or a liar.Wonders never cease, as long as you never cease to wonder.
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Just going to add a bit from the other side as it were.
I agree that a lot of car drivers don't take proper account of bikes, but far few bike riders take stupid and needless risks.
Watching some fool racing between 2 cars that were on a section of road that drops from 2 lanes to 1 while the cars were trying to get the front spot. He got through without crashing becasue one of the cars 'bottled' it and hit the brakes. And that is just one of the near misses I have seen while driving.
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Just going to add a bit from the other side as it were.
I agree that a lot of car drivers don't take proper account of bikes, but far few bike riders take stupid and needless risks.
Watching some fool racing between 2 cars that were on a section of road that drops from 2 lanes to 1 while the cars were trying to get the front spot. He got through without crashing becasue one of the cars 'bottled' it and hit the brakes. And that is just one of the near misses I have seen while driving.
Vamp
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Oh yeah, I'm one of the biggest critics of how other bikers ride. I've seen some mental high speed filtering and wheelying on the motorway..these guys are just asking for it. A fast rider is a smooth rider, no point in blasting up to the back of a car if there's no where to go...just stoopid. There's a time and a place for antics like that..they're called track days
Oh yeah, I'm one of the biggest critics of how other bikers ride. I've seen some mental high speed filtering and wheelying on the motorway..these guys are just asking for it. A fast rider is a smooth rider, no point in blasting up to the back of a car if there's no where to go...just stoopid. There's a time and a place for antics like that..they're called track days
boing...boing...When the naive man admits his naivete, he is no longer naive.Thus, all people are regarded by society as either ignorant or a liar.Wonders never cease, as long as you never cease to wonder.
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Totally,also cool for speed fix is the fact that its wsb just now,id sell my granny to get the chance to go to brands hatch and watch some racing!I went a couple of years back(before the days of the pesky full time job!)It rocked my world,plus the added bonus that i got to go on the back of a fireblade,sorry am i drooling...
Totally,also cool for speed fix is the fact that its wsb just now,id sell my granny to get the chance to go to brands hatch and watch some racing!I went a couple of years back(before the days of the pesky full time job!)It rocked my world,plus the added bonus that i got to go on the back of a fireblade,sorry am i drooling...
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hey... glad you're ok. Get rid of the bike. i have a bad feeling about bikes. aunt died on one. sell the damn thing.
hey... glad you're ok. Get rid of the bike. i have a bad feeling about bikes. aunt died on one. sell the damn thing.
i am the gin of gunga din. went to a show with-a gunga din... so early in the morning.
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quote:Suggest doing a "Stay Upright" or similar course; you will learn heaps.
Is is possible for me to ride a motorbike safely?
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Yeah I had one booked in for the 7th of july but I had to ring up and cancel since my bike is not in one piece at the moment.
Yeah I had one booked in for the 7th of july but I had to ring up and cancel since my bike is not in one piece at the moment.
HOW TO FLY 101:
step 1. Throw your self at the ground.
step 2. Miss.
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Poor bike!!!And poor you too,im stuck with going down to the seafront and checking out the bikes there,not quite the same but itll do!by the way,love your quote Dirty beaner,primus are the kings of the world,went to see them in london a few years ago and they kicked so much ass thet we travelled up to nottingham the next day to watch them again the next night!!
she wandered down the alleyway like butter dripping off a hot biscuit.
Poor bike!!!And poor you too,im stuck with going down to the seafront and checking out the bikes there,not quite the same but itll do!by the way,love your quote Dirty beaner,primus are the kings of the world,went to see them in london a few years ago and they kicked so much ass thet we travelled up to nottingham the next day to watch them again the next night!!
she wandered down the alleyway like butter dripping off a hot biscuit.
spig--------Its not big and its not clever.
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Bad luck BB. Hope you get your machine up and running again sooooon.
I've been riding for, erm, yonks and after a few years without a bike, I finally got got back on two wheels (GPZ500). Yes, I know they can be dangerous, but I reckon it's worth it. Sunny days, throttle open and powering through the curves....sigh !
Give yourself a chance to get your confidence back and you'll be blatting around with the best of them.
Bestest
Bad luck BB. Hope you get your machine up and running again sooooon.
I've been riding for, erm, yonks and after a few years without a bike, I finally got got back on two wheels (GPZ500). Yes, I know they can be dangerous, but I reckon it's worth it. Sunny days, throttle open and powering through the curves....sigh !
Give yourself a chance to get your confidence back and you'll be blatting around with the best of them.
Bestest
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Location: Australia
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Yeah I was thinking about getting into track racing to clam me down on the roads, as I can then safely release the full power of the bike. The only reason I came off was because I was doing stuff in suburbia that you should really only do on a nice clean predictable track!
THanx 4 the support guys.
Yeah I was thinking about getting into track racing to clam me down on the roads, as I can then safely release the full power of the bike. The only reason I came off was because I was doing stuff in suburbia that you should really only do on a nice clean predictable track!
THanx 4 the support guys.
HOW TO FLY 101:
step 1. Throw your self at the ground.
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