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Posted: 22nd May 2003
1280 * 960
This wins my nomination for the most boring thread EVER posted on HOP
Liam you need a girlfriend or something.

Does this mean we're going to see new exciting new things on www.firedancers.co.uk then mr tempest

Posted: 22nd May 2003
I second the notion for the most boring post ever(shouldnt this be under a) BORING! or b) and the awards for... thread (both incidentally by me)

1028x768 is what mine is at...old shitty monitor..

glass mate..that is some serioulsy high resolution..how small are you icons on your desktop?

Posted: 22nd May 2003
Wow. Thats the 2nd most boring question ever asked on HOP....

UCOF. I measured some,
my outlook icon is 8mm square.
Whereas the recycling bin is 8mm wide, but.. heres the difference because its full, it is 9mm tall.
Righteo, I'm off to measure my folders.

Posted: 22nd May 2003
Yup, that was probably the most boring question asked on HoP but i'm actually very interested indeedy, the idea of being a computer geek really turns me on need input

Yup there will be webby stuff for you to see soon but alas I think I might have to go back quite a few hours at the moment.

If there are any Dreamweaver fanatics about then can I swap you my brother for your brain? He's toilet trained now and dosent dribble anymore

Liam

[ 23. May 2003, 07:57: Message edited by: TEMPEST ]

Posted: 22nd May 2003
mine is @ 1152*864.

just to even up the average like

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

Posted: 22nd May 2003
800x600

Are we nearly there yet?

Posted: 22nd May 2003
800 x 600

Posted: 22nd May 2003
Thanks for the posts people

and to all you surfers using 800 x 600 or lower, you are making my life stressfull as hell.

I do have alternatives to hand but does anyone know how to make a frame's dimensions smaller so it can all be viewd in a lower res within dreamweaver mx Its driving me batty

and any chance you perhaps know where to get the font 'New Berolina MT' anywhere that dosent cost me 30 bucks?

cheers
Liam

Posted: 22nd May 2003
800x600
Most people on the internet will be viewing at that resolution...

hugs
drome

JUGGLEwithyourmind!

Posted: 22nd May 2003
cheers drome

I feared that was the case.

So what about setting my resolution to 800 x 600 and designing the offending pages again?

Posted: 23rd May 2003
yea, this is a pretty sad thread

1280 x 1024

do i win a prize for being top? Or a slap for being a geek?

Posted: 23rd May 2003
That depends flid. What size are your icons?

Posted: 23rd May 2003
which icons?

Posted: 23rd May 2003
ahem...

any of you monster resolution nerds know how to use dreamweaver then?

Bro is still on offer for basic chores...

Posted: 22nd May 2003
1280*1024

ps if the web page is all ready up and you put a brave net counter on it it will tell you what proportion of the people that go there have cirtin resolutions.

missie

pps out of the 350 people that have visieted my page these were there resolutions

1024x768--------------------%38.12
800x600---------------------%33.98
1280x1024-------------------%20.44
1152x864--------------------%4.70
640x480---------------------%1.10
Other Resolutions-----------%1.10
1600x1280-------------------%0.55

I {Heart} hand me downs and spinning in the snow.<br /><br />

Posted: 22nd May 2003
right that's it, I won't be out done, so I'm making this post in 1600x1200

dreamweaver smells funny. Use a nice text editor like textpad instead

Posted: 22nd May 2003
thanks missie, nice to see my resolution coming out top but that's a lot of people using 800 x 600 to just ignore.

Still need a Dreamweaver guru..

Posted: 22nd May 2003
erm flid..

I'm not really messing with code, i'm not informed enough as yet to be getting funky with code.

I just want to be able to view my the pages I made for my gallery in 800 x 600. Even if you have to scroll, at the moment my thumbnails just dissapear if I put my res to that or view on a puter with that res.

So what about the idea of designing my pages in 800 x 600 to make sure the view ok, is that sane or just daft?

Posted: 22nd May 2003
In general you should always design for 800x600 minimum, you can ignore 640x480 these days. Forget using frames (except iframes), use tables. Set things like navigation bars as a fixed pixel width, then set the text body section to be variable width (ie "*").

If you are building a gallery with a table of thumbnails on it then you have 3 choices.

1) clientside: use javascript to detect screen resolution and build the table of thumbnails accordingly using dhtml (hard, and yuck)
2) serverside: if your server has a scripting language like PHP its dead simple to detect resolution and build a table for the user (medium, and nice)
3) tell anyone with less than 1024x768 to piss off, on the basis that assumeably the full sized pictures are bigger than 800x600. In which case set the table as a fixed width (say 1000), then anyone with 800x600 will get a horizontal scroll bar (easy, and reasonable).

Personally I chose the 3rd option when i wrote my gallery software (see my website link)

Posted: 22nd May 2003
1024 X 768 32 bit color. And I am totaly lost now....who turned off the lights?

we eat and we drink and we smoke and we try!

Posted: 22nd May 2003
It's not the size of your icon that matters, it's where you put it that counts...

we eat and we drink and we smoke and we try!

Posted: 23rd May 2003
*1280x1024*


liam how can you be having problems still??? i fixed it for you last night.

if you just open the page up in front page, on the screen right click in the frame that you want to change the size of and goto frame properties, on the menu where it says width and hight set it to pixels and adjust to required size making sure that the overal dimensions of both frames make up 800x600 to cater for all those shit monitors that cant handle decent graphics and high res.

you dont have to set you monitor to 800x600 to make an 800x600 site, just have the origional pages defaulted to that size, and in the properties have it auto resizeable dependant on users browser.

looks tasty so far, dude, cant wait till u get it sorted.

and like i said get rid of breamweaver.... looks and feels to complicated, basic text editors man like word pad.

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Posted: 23rd May 2003
I would strongly advise if you are aiming to reach the widest possible audience that you DONT tell anyone with less than 1024*768 to piss off.

Many people while running hi-res dont have their browser set to full screen. I NEVER set mine to full screen, cuz i'm always running a minimum of 3 screens which I like to be able to click between/compare etc, however I run my monitor at 1152*864.

Additionally on websites which use a liquid layout, sometimes the line length gets a bit too long for easy reading, so I resize the windows smaller.

That one user who you turn away by setting your minimum spec to high might have been your most lucrative contract.

Also if you are going to do Javascript detection make sure the js you use is compatible with older browsers. Not everyone upgrades the browsers with every new release. After all, you arent marketing to webmonkeys - chances are the people who hold artsy purse strings are management types in small to medium sized enterprises which dont have dedicated IT personnel to update their software every two seconds

same goes for video codecs. You can bet your ass that if people on this website have problems with your vid, artsy management types will have greater problems. If you start thinking about it in terms of income per view or user, turning away a percentage of them un-neccessarily at the beginning by making your site hard to view on older tech / lower spec makes no cents (hehe )

Josh

AnonymousPLATINUM Member

Posted: 23rd May 2003
and in DW to access the frame properties open the frame pane, click the one you want and its properties will be editable in the object properties pane (I cant remmeber exactly what it is and I dont have DW at work to look).

Just make up a frameset and then edit it to be the way you want.

Frames are a bit evil, but if you have your gallery as a page on its own with its own framset it doesnt break the browser functionality too bad.

Josh

[ 23. May 2003, 23:24: Message edited by: [Josh] ]

Posted: 23rd May 2003
Yowser, cheers guys.

Flid, 3 very interesting ideas for my mind to play with and I like your site and pics too. Email on its way to ya.

PK, yes I thought it was sorted too but the frameset you sent me didnt have the top and bottom setion attatched and it wouldnt open in dreamweaver anyway Thanks aghain for all your time yesterday though.

Josh, wise words mr pilgrim. Even though its just the gallery, I dont want to alienate people with a relativley low res, i didnt even have a puter till last year.

Ok so my options at the moment are:

get my server to detect what resolution peole have and create a gallery just for them. Or add another gallery and give them a link if the thumbs dont show. I like this one as i dont mind the extra work as most people would see exactly what I want them to see.

remove my nav bar off the gallery page totally so the thumbs can be seen and have a small link back to home and the subgallery page. Easy and uncluttered.

Play with my frames untill I know them inside out and what exactly is possible rather than stumbling about asking people for advice?

I'll probably give you a link to ask you some more questions when I have some. Thanks for your feedback

Posted: 24th May 2003
a good idea is to use centred div and table elements so that your pages display at low res but can stretch to hi res.
copy the design offa this dood's website for an example.
the best website design never tells you what settings your browser should be - it should be the other was around! (IMHO!)

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003
eh up,

Thanks for the link Bender, thats quite a slinky site indeed and I have gone down the centred table route mostly. I like the floating layers very much but its not the look I am going for on this site.

I have been reading lots and finally got my head round all the elements that are variable in frames, finished my gallery and it works pretty well in a low res too

So for the next question to you techi freeks...

The final thing I would like to do is make all my scroll bars black with orange highlights to keep continuity within the whole site. I have found and adapted all the code that I need and applied it to one page...

huzzaa, works beautifully (slight smugness) but I have a lot of pages and frames that use these so I am hoping someone can describe a quicker way?

I have read about css style sheets that you can apply to a whole site with a few clicks but cant find out how to make one with the attributes I desire, only changing text coulour and sizes and other qualities I don't really need.(non smugness)

So, is there an easy way or should I stop moaning and go through all my pages and add the code by hand?

Posted: 3rd Jun 2003
email on it's way

Posted: 3rd Jun 2003
copy and past this in to your css file, ignor or change the fonts, colors and sizes to suit. pretty standard dude.

body { font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px;
font-family: Tahoma, Arial;
scrollbar-face-color: #383838;
scrollbar-highlight-color: #383838;
scrollbar-shadow-color: #383838;
scrollbar-3dlight-color: #787878;
scrollbar-arrow-color: #FFFFFF;
scrollbar-track-color: #222221;
scrollbar-darkshadow-color: #000000;}

Posted: 3rd Jun 2003
Thanks to Bender, Dom and PK who all sent me the details.

however, I already have the code and I git it to work. What im trying to do is add it via a css sheet so its less code (like Bender suggested).

Just tried it like that but no cigar, need to experiment for a couple hours.