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berserkernewbie
12 posts
Location: PA


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I have liked this girl for a long time, almost a year, and about 7 months ago she started dating my best friend. And now, she is also my best friend. We hang out all the time, and it is the most enjoyable times of my life. I have been dealing with holding this in for that time, but then I couldn't anymore and I told them both that I had feelings for her, but I didn't tell them how strong of feelings. I have never done drugs or drank in my life. You will understand why I wrote that in a minute. Anyway, I look of her and I see the girl I could marry. I stay up countless hours crying about this sh!t. So the other night, I drank with her and another one of my friends, thinking it could solve my problems. And I got depressed and told her how much I love her. I was so bad that they eventually had to call the cops on me bc I was threatening suicide and stuff. However, as bad as that sounds, lots of good came out of it, bc many of my friends came down to talk to me and I have depression and feel like nobody cares about me, so that helped me realize people do, and also, as I was lying there balling my eyes out to her, she was rubbing my head, and hugging me and holding my hand, and that made me feel great. But most people think this is just a crush, but it definitely is not. So now she knows how I feel, but I still feel like sh!t, bc I can't have the one girl who I love! And when I see her and my other best friend together it tears me apart. I used to just feel bad when I was alone, but now I can't control myself with people either. So, just wondering one of two things, How can I get her? or Would getting a girlfriend help? The only problem with the 2nd one is I'm really shy with girls if it's about asking them out. and please feel free to comment on the whole situation, not just the questions. I just have no idea what to do!

_Aim�e_SILVER Member
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Hello there mate, wlecome to HoP hug

Would you mind if I asked how old you were?

x

UCOFSILVER Member
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Location: South Wales


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confused

Hello there, welcome and thanks for stopping by! hug



This rather a random post for your very first post here.

Do you know what Poi even are? umm

Or did you just randomly find this forum and think you should ask us a question like this? umm smile



1) "I have never done drugs or drank in my life. You will understand why I wrote that in a minute."- I still dont understand why you wrote that... confused



2) "How can I get her?" - No one can "get" another person. The other person must want to be with that person for a new relationship to work. This is how life is. (Unless one of them is super rich, then they can "get" whoever they want to)



3) "Would getting a girlfriend help?" - Only if you wernt getting a girlfriend simply to try to forget the original girl. Because doing that is very unfair on your new "girlfriend" (she wouldn't really be a girlfriend, but simply a "distraction") as you wouldn't want her for who she is. That is also another fine point of relationships. Each person must want the other person for who they are, not what they are.



You are really shy with girls you say? I say why? They are just like you, except they have different inney and outey bits, and their brains are full of make up, hair, fashion and bad driving, as opposed to men, whose heads are full of beer, boobs and scratching their nuts and smelling their hand.

The sooner you learn how to be yourself when around girls, the sooner you will meet someone. Also, get a hobby that has lots of social contact. That way, you make new friends, meet new girls, and the more girls you meet, the more possible girlfriends you have. You can also talk about the shared hobby that you have as a conversation starter.



I assume you are between 16 and 20 years old? Im saying that, as what you describe was exactly what I used to think when I was between those ages.

To be honest, not having a GF can have its rewards, but it can have its drawbacks too. Women can talk like there is no tomorrow - You will need to buy a good pair of earplugs ( wink ), and they can also store every little thing you did that annoyed them (which at the time you didnt realise) just so they can bring it up when they are arguing with you. Thankfully, I am now in a relationship where neither of those things happen smile



"bc I can't have the one girl who I love!" - been there, done that. Yeah, its proper sh1t int it? (However, I soon realised that she wouldn't be the only person I would ever love)



"And when I see her and my other best friend together it tears me apart." - Yep dont worry about that one, that still happens to me. smile Its f'cking hard not to let it. You just have to get on with life really. You can either sit there crying and feeling sorry for yourself that you cant always have your own way, or you can get up and learn from what happened, so that you dont let it happen in the future smile



And thats about it really.

Fire_MooseSILVER Member
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first off....

"and their brains are full of make up, hair, fashion and bad driving, as opposed to men, whose heads are full of beer, boobs and scratching their nuts and smelling their hand" = BRILLIANT and so incredibly true.

OK now on to Mr. Berserker.......a-hem

Why was this not only posted on this website but in the introduction thread?

Secondly what Mr. UCoF says is so true, there will be others, but now that this girl knows how you feel try talking to her to see how it makes her feel, granted she learned in a very messed up way. I've always been shy around wimmin but i've also managed to get a couple of them.

One thing that may help to get this girls attention would be to take up Poi or Staff (staff is way cooler BTW) work at it for a couple of months (3-4) by that time if your comfortable with fire get/make a fire staff, this is a SURE fire (no pun intended) way to impress her, give her a little show and she will melt in your hands. Also by giving it a few months practising not only will she prolly not be going out with him any more, you'll hopefully learn some pretty bad ass stuff.

Good luck.

O.B.E.S.E.

Owned by Mynci!


UCOFSILVER Member
15,417 posts
Location: South Wales


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"she will melt in your hands."
eek
All over the floor in a sticky puddle? umm

Iiiiiiinteresting - I'll have to remember that one.


 Written by: Poje

now that this girl knows how you feel try talking to her to see how it makes her feel


Nooooo! Dont do that.. you cant poach another mans girlfriend! eek

 Written by: Poje

i've also managed to get a couple of them


umm
Please refer to the second point in my original post nana
Also, "them" isnt a very nice word for girls. Like hobo's, females are humans too. wink please use "women-folk" or "owners of boobies that are supposed to be there" (as opposed to fat men with man boobs). ubblol Yes, I am aware of my hypocrisy

berserkernewbie
12 posts
Location: PA


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I would not mind! I am 16, now I know that you are thinking, too young to be in love but if this isn't love then my heart will explode when it actually happens! No i dont know what poi is just saw it and registered, figured maybe it could help. o and the reason this is my opening poist is bc this is why i joined and i didnt realize that it would be seen as opening post!

berserkernewbie
12 posts
Location: PA


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ok, the drugs thing is that it was my first time drinking and I just got really bad with it, bc it was hard liquor and I drank way too much, way too fast! and yes I am 16 but im telling u this is love, as little as all of u want to believe it!

_Aim�e_SILVER Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
4,172 posts
Location: Hastings, United Kingdom


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In a few years time, when you meet the woman of your dreams, and want to marry her, have her children and spend the rest of your life with her - that will be love.

Right now what you feel for this girl will feel insignificant when you are with your future wife/life partner.

You're too young for love. You're 16! You should be partying, drinking execessivly, having lots of sex and telling your mother to go fcuk herself.
At least, I'm sure I'm not the only one who did that at that age ubblol

Get over her. Shes taken.
The energy you spend fretting over her could be put to use for something far more constructive.

hug

Why dont you tell us something more about yourself.
Do you spin? Juggle maybe?

berserkernewbie
12 posts
Location: PA


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ok, I drank that night and it messed me up too bad, and plus cops came to my house and they didnt care then but i may have to be drug tested and stuff bc of that, anyway, this feels liek way too much to just be able to get over! I mean ive liked her for a while and crying about her makes it seem so much more real, I dont want to feell iek this but it just happened and im dealing with it the best way i can think of! Im sure none of u think i feel as truly as i say! but i have explained it to many ppl who know me, young and old, and they all felt liek i just had a crush until i explained it! If u want to talk more, liek just talkign my aim=batman4ever914 and my myspace is myspace.com/batmaniscool1234, but just send me a message with a friend request bc i turn ppl down i dont know usually!

BrennPLATINUM Member
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3,286 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


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Drinking or taking mind altering substances won't make it go away - it will just delay it (and amplify it)


Aimee has a point - The energy you're expending in feeling sorry for yourself and agonising over her being with another person is only destroying you. She is taken, and you will have to respect that.

I know it all seems very real to you, but in time you will look back and wonder what was all the fuss for. I was told the same thing at fourteen and sixteen and I refused to believe it then, but many years on it turned out to be true.

You started off in this world as a singular being, and there's nothing to say that you can't remain happy being singular. smile

Turn to your hobbies, friends, distract yourself. Occupy yourself in twirling or juggling or whatever fire-discipline you're doing.

Take care hug

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_Aim�e_SILVER Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
4,172 posts
Location: Hastings, United Kingdom


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Berserker - correct me if I'm wrong here, but are you a troll?
They way you type and after every post of ours you ignore our questions is slightly suspicious.

Apologies if I'm wrong, but here we dont care for that kind of rubbish and you'll be hard pressed to work one of us up doing the things you're doing.
Try harder next time wink

Once again, my apologies if incorrect! hug

Fire_MooseSILVER Member
Elusive and Bearded
3,597 posts
Location: Scottsdale, AZ, USA


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[quote UCoF]:
 Written by: Poje

now that this girl knows how you feel try talking to her to see how it makes her feel


Nooooo! Dont do that.. you cant poach another mans girlfriend! eek



i dont mean poaching i mean see if she even wants to be friends, lining up wimmin who are taking and eventually going to be single is a good thing, that way you can be there for the "shoulder to cry on" when she loses her current boy.

 Written by: Poje

i've also managed to get a couple of them


umm
Please refer to the second point in my original post nana
Also, "them" isnt a very nice word for girls. Like hobo's, females are humans too. wink please use "women-folk" or "owners of boobies that are supposed to be there" (as opposed to fat men with man boobs). ubblol Yes, I am aware of my hypocrisy



lemme rephrase that...

I have also managed to trick a couple of the simple love filled minds of the wimmin-folk into thinking i am someone i am not.


OK i kid, please dont hurt me owners of boobies that are supposed to be there.

O.B.E.S.E.

Owned by Mynci!


UCOFSILVER Member
15,417 posts
Location: South Wales


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ubblol
biggrin

Btw, for double quotes the syntax is:
[ quote: whoever ] blah blah blah [ quot: whoever again ] blah blah blah to the power of two [ /quote] [ /quote]

ubbrollsmile

Fire_MooseSILVER Member
Elusive and Bearded
3,597 posts
Location: Scottsdale, AZ, USA


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i thoguht thats what i did.

anyways did anyone else check out myspace.com/batmaniscool1234 ?

says hes 18...hmmmm little suspicious.....i tihnk we are beinh invaded....got my eye on that tennisball torcher too.....

O.B.E.S.E.

Owned by Mynci!


Uchimember
29 posts
Location: Jersey, Channel Islands


Posted:
this dude just sounds like a wind-up anyway :P

Uchi

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity


berserkernewbie
12 posts
Location: PA


Posted:
What ?s didnt I answer? ask them again plz and i will answer them. I am not a troll, but ok!

berserkernewbie
12 posts
Location: PA


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Its 18 bc you cant do a bunch of stuff on myspace if u r under 18, or so im told! jc, if i were really an effing poacher or something would i give u my myspace. I cant believe u ppl think im on here effing wiht u! This is what i mean, i believe nobody lieks me, and if ur not here to help then leave me alone! dont check out my myspace and tell me im an effign troll! if u dont wanty me on here then say it and i guess ill just leave and that will finally prove to me that ppl in this effed up world dont care at all!

Bigfoot67GOLD Member
Member
103 posts
Location: Bornem (Belgium)


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I also think the best thing to do is just distracting yourself by turning to hobbies or things like that.

Pretty funny you posted on this forum, believe it or not but poi really is great to get your mind from things and also is a great way to meet new people and therefor also meet more girls.

i'm really shy with girls too but since i've started playing poi i noticed more girls started to show some interest in me.

And now i'm kind of in the same situation as you are... Fell in love with a great girl with whom i can imagine a future together, but she's also taken (I don't know the guy she's with but i'm still holding back because of that). And when i think too much about it i get depressed too and that's where my poi, guitar and books help me significantly. Just don't try to think about it too much and try keeping her as a friend, who knows what might happen when they brake up...

Rouge DragonBRONZE Member
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Location: without class distinction, Australia


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I don't think it's fair for throwing the word "troll" around. C'mon guys! We've had trolls and they don't ask us questions about their love-interests!

Also, even thoughsomoene is young, it doesnt mean they can't be completely in love. We often look at people who are younger than us and think that they're stupider than us, which is of course not true. Think back to when you were that age; did a boy/girl mean the world for you? Even now, more recently, have you never had a heartbreak that you felt hurt more than others and you wouldn't get over like you had done before?

Remember; people married younger centuries ago, and the poor could marry for love. In a few generations have we lost the ability to love at a young age?

i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey

Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...


BrennPLATINUM Member
Will carpal your tunnel in a minute.
3,286 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


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berserker - Simmer down. 'nobody' and 'everybody' are a lot of people, and there's no possible way that 'nobody' and 'everybody' can or can not like you. We can't please everyone, but telling yourself that 'nobody' likes you is not good for the mind and spirit, and aggravates people around you who actually do like and care for you.

'Nobody', however, wants to be around someone who perpetually beats themselves up. Take charge. think positively of yourself. Nobody else can do that for you but you.

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Owner of burningoftheclavey smile
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berserkernewbie
12 posts
Location: PA


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we are still friends, i told her the whole thing and she didnt even care, she was helping me when i got depressed, drank and threatened to commit suicide, she was holding my hand and huggin me and stuff, ti was great, but if they break up, the guy is still my best friend so how can i ask his ex out?

berserkernewbie
12 posts
Location: PA


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I play football, hang otu with my friends, and work on occasion! that is my life, i love movies! and i love music! I am a huge phillies and eagles fan! umm, check out myspace.com/batmaniscool1234 and u can see my interests and [censored], also, if u want aim me, my aim is batman4ever914, i know i pout this sh!t out b4 but here it is agoian!

Bigfoot67GOLD Member
Member
103 posts
Location: Bornem (Belgium)


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 Written by: Rouge Dragon


I don't think it's fair for throwing the word "troll" around. C'mon guys! We've had trolls and they don't ask us questions about their love-interests!

Also, even thoughsomoene is young, it doesnt mean they can't be completely in love. We often look at people who are younger than us and think that they're stupider than us, which is of course not true. Think back to when you were that age; did a boy/girl mean the world for you? Even now, more recently, have you never had a heartbreak that you felt hurt more than others and you wouldn't get over like you had done before?

Remember; people married younger centuries ago, and the poor could marry for love. In a few generations have we lost the ability to love at a young age?



That's exactly what i think too, you don't have to be a certain age to really be in love.

And two best friends falling for the same girl happens all the time really, and when you really are good friends you wouldn't let a girl come between you...

If they brake up and you ask her out, your friend will probably not feel so good about it but if you're really a good friend that shouldn't keep bothering him and he should understand.
And after all he already knows how you feel now...

berserkernewbie
12 posts
Location: PA


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OK, so I can ask her out, if they break up! But they are very happy and that will probably take a while and I have already felt like sh!t for almost a year, so I don't know how much longer I can feel like this! It is really hard to see them together. bc I see how happy they are and it just makes me think, if I had some balls, and asked her out when I had the chance I could feel that way, instead of like this!

Bigfoot67GOLD Member
Member
103 posts
Location: Bornem (Belgium)


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You can't change the past and nothing good will come from wishing you acted differently. Try to get it out of your mind.

Just keep seeing them both as friends and only time will tell what happens...

Fire_MooseSILVER Member
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3,597 posts
Location: Scottsdale, AZ, USA


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If you REALLY loved this girl then you would want her to be happy, even if that means someone else is making her happy. If you love someone, set them free.

O.B.E.S.E.

Owned by Mynci!


BrennPLATINUM Member
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3,286 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
 Written by: berserker


OK, so I can ask her out, if they break up! But they are very happy and that will probably take a while and I have already felt like sh!t for almost a year, so I don't know how much longer I can feel like this! It is really hard to see them together. bc I see how happy they are and it just makes me think, if I had some balls, and asked her out when I had the chance I could feel that way, instead of like this!



Seriously.

Get it out of your mind.

Turn to other things you enjoy doing and people you enjoy seeing that are outside of your friend and this girl.

There's no sense beating yourself up for things you should or shouldn't have done earlier. What's happened has happened, and we can only work with what we have.

Your friend, I hope ,understands how distressing it is for you to see them both together all the time. You should be able to do things together that's just you and him.

If you keep manifesting it and thinking of things like "I can ask her out if they break up", you will only destroy yourself further.

Reminding yourself of how things are and how happy they are together, unfortunately, is your own doing, and only you can put a stop to it. Nobody else can.

ॐ

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berserkernewbie
12 posts
Location: PA


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But these are my best friends and we are all part of a big group of people, I have lots of other friends who arent in the geoup but they dont mean as much to me as the ones in it! Except for one of them who is always with his girlfriend!

Rouge DragonBRONZE Member
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Location: without class distinction, Australia


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Something I find from observing both my own actions and those of the people around me is that when things like this happen it's a great time to explore avenues of new friendships.

I have friends who I only became friends with after a relationship broke down and they found other people to be friends with. And similarly I have done the same in the past.

i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey

Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...


BrennPLATINUM Member
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3,286 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
 Written by: berserker


But these are my best friends and we are all part of a big group of people, I have lots of other friends who arent in the geoup but they dont mean as much to me as the ones in it! Except for one of them who is always with his girlfriend!



Perhaps if you spent less time and energy manifesting on the one who is so great and always with his girlfriend, you may find things in those people outside of this group that you identify with more smile

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xjereBRONZE Member
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Location: USA


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I've been following this thread since it began, and I think I've finally composed what I want to say.

Through Jr. High and Highschool I knew a girl. We started as friends, and then interest started blooming, but in the interest of friendship I didn't pursue anything, and neither did. Six years into our friendship she became distant and basically told me we were no longer friends.

I was crushed, beaten down, and I could only wonder why she would do something like that. Took me a couple long years of soul searching before I completely dealt with it and moved on.

Three years ago I fell hard for a woman, and it took me the better part of a year to admit it to her. She considered me too good a friend to risk loosing. again my chest cavity collapsed in on itself and I was left with an empty heart.

Though I let that emotion fester inside me, it took over my life. Every day was a day I would think about her (and the fact that she would end up trying to make out with me every time she had a little too much to drink didn't help much either), and the more thought I put into it, the more pain it caused.

That's when I completely grasped why the girl from before did what she did. I started distancing myself like she did to me, and it's been almost a year since I've talked to that woman.

The sad truth is: sometimes you have to burn a bridge in order to stop carrying a torch.

Who wants to see a monkey on fire?


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