Forums > Social Discussion > Good Morning, I'd like to have an arguement.
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Location: NYC, NY, USA
We've all seen this sketch. [Or if you prefer reading it.]
Somehow, since the advent of the internet it has so much more meaning.
Everyone just stopping in during their coffee breaks to type a "connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition" and, of course, be contrary.
I generally get something out our discussions here. Mostly just enjoying speaking with some people over the age of 15. I don't think I've ever really had to defend my belief system in words before the HoP Social Discussion Forum. I think it's important to be challenged on your beliefs if only to solidify what they actually are.
If this was 'chat' we could degrade into a silly pythonlike arguement but I thought I'd post it in Discussion since this is really the place where you all pop in for your daily arguement.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
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2,996 posts
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Aha, my old sparring partner. I remember fondly the arguments we once had.
I have plentiful arguments, and different roles, and had a great time and a rotten time. A lot depended on my mood and ability to remain open to different ideas.
But it has been fun and has kept the mental muscle flexed.
It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.
What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
I remember the times we agreed way more than the times we argued actually. There were a few times you brought in the Calvalry just as I was gettin' my butt kicked.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
Pooh-Bah
1,872 posts
Location: Canada
The arguements can be fun
But I really come here for things to think about while I'm doing things I know how to do.
Pooh-Bah
1,848 posts
Location: Adelaide, SA, Australia
i don't like arguements on here... i think people get too angry... i think i'm gonna start keeping my nose out of disccusion and leave it for the grown-ups...
"i am exotic, and must keep my arms down" - Rougie
"i don't understand what penises have to do with getting married" - Foxie
255 posts
Location: Melbourne - home of pirates
I love arguments...
Where people passionately put forward a viewpoint, and others put in their two cents, and it melds, different people putting forward ideas, picking holes in previous statements.
I think its difficult to have a good, considered and comprehensive argument in person, just because you don't have time to think your opinions/defence of your opinions through. I love arguing on the net, because it is more accessible. You can research arguments, and draw from an incredibly diverse bunch of people, which I wouldn't normally get to do...
I might not post much here, but I love the discourse that goes on.. It allows me to use my brain, something I rarely get to do on my paid time.
"You've gone from Loey the Wonder Lesbian to everyone wondering if you are a lesbian." - Shadowman
Yesterday is yesterday. If we try to recapture it, we will only lose tomorrow.
hehe, 'Member' huhuh
6,120 posts
Location: Behind you. With Jam
My problem is that I am too passionate on BOTH sides each arguement. Vehemently defending both whilst being able to commit to neither...
Which ends up with me having an unclear position in the arguement or being a fence sitter...
Empathy is such a curse...
"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock
3,149 posts
Location: London
i prefer to take whatever side is losing at the time.
i'm currently considering becoming a climate change sceptic, just for kicks
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
hehe, 'Member' huhuh
6,120 posts
Location: Behind you. With Jam
I have an image of a monkey riding the underdog into battle now...
I would've thought the climate change sceptics (or should I say 'Climate Change Apathists' - is that even a word? - it is now) are more likely to be winning. The Climate change lobbyists are just more vocal...Or work in Spin Doctoring....
"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock
had her carpal tunnel surgery already thanks v much
4,145 posts
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland (UK)
In that case, this is for you, Mr. Simian!
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
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Owner of Dragosani's left half
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
I have an image of monkey riding into battle on a big dog now... like that knight fella in labyrinth... It's a good image, monkey is very angry... in a cute sort of way...
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
hehe, 'Member' huhuh
6,120 posts
Location: Behind you. With Jam
Yes but Sir Didymus was another dog (perhaps even a fox) riding a dog...
"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock
Self-Flagellation Expert
3,414 posts
Location: Bogged at CG, Australia
The problem with climate change is the second word. nobody likes change.
And i'm another one that loves a good, strong discussion. Even a debate. The different viewpoints i've seen that i hadn't even thought existed, let alone considered, has been a great education.
"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA
"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
this is fun: https://www.fluideffect.com/
go to composite or before and after and watch photoshop work it's magic! Remove flab, shorten earlobes, and make things anatomically incorrect!
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Sometimes I think there are more degenerative arguements than productive discussions. However, those few threads that bring things up a level, always keep me coming back.
These days I find myself scanning threads looking for posts from people I know and am interested in, rather than in detail. Though I would go back if I felt I was missing a link somewhere.
And sometimes, and lets be honest here. There are worse ways to spend a day at a desk.
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Love is the law.
1,590 posts
Location: Farnborough, Hampshire
no, i'm not having an argument
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Macaque of all trades
8,738 posts
Location: wombling free..., United Kingdom
I enjoy a good discussion even if someone points out I'm wrong well I have learnt something... sometimes I just like to be contrary and will argue the point AGAINST which I believe, (which I find helps me see things from other peoples perspective)
Just keep me away from religion as that topic always gets my blood flowing
It's nice to be able to converse with intelligent people (much unlike the people in my office who generally appal me with their lack of wit)Quote: "Is Ireland in Europe" made me laugh but worried me slightly
A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Written by: MiG
The problem with climate change is the second word. nobody likes change.
I guess that's why the Internet never really caught on. Everyone was happy just hand writing mail and sending it via post.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
hehe, 'Member' huhuh
6,120 posts
Location: Behind you. With Jam
Climate Change doesn't really involve free porn...
"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
now that's change for the better!
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
hehe, 'Member' huhuh
6,120 posts
Location: Behind you. With Jam
Unless the Government implements a system to award Free Porn to entice people to cut down on carbon emissions...
Stranger things have happened...
"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock
6,650 posts
oh stop it! a fruitless argument in the morning.... heating up to the point where ppl go: shut the f up! or get redfaced in front off the screens, online hostile to compensate their at-home frustration...
you want to beat someone up? run around hells kitchen and look for some trouble on the street - at least your nose bleeds for real and your doctor/ surgeon has his position secured!
No seriously, I do like to debate with you. As a matter of fact (other than Sethis implied in another thread on this bb) I was really able to review my positions/ arguments and adjust them to the point where they are rethorically waterproof
not that they'd gain much more validity, yet. But one thing you're certainly mistaken about, NYC: I was able to receive more wisdom from some 15 yr old (maybe unintentionally) than of socalled "grownups"...
I reckon that this forum is W.I.C.K.E.D. and I will certainly proceed to voice my opinions here in order to have them twisted, turned upside down, torn apart and (wrongfully) put back together, as well as rejuvenated in the most unsuitable moments possible....
ride on the best smiles are the ones you lead to 
1,662 posts
Location: Bristol
Written by: simian
i prefer to take whatever side is losing at the time.
i'm currently considering becoming a climate change sceptic, just for kicks
no you don't! if i know my monkey it would kill you to argue something you don't believe. how about trying out pro-chirstianity for a while? bet you anything you couldn't even last a day
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Returning to a unique state of Equilibrium
3,289 posts
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
eh - I rarely post in argument topics anymore... I think it comes from repeatedly coming to the conclusion that what I was investing energy in didnt actually constitute a rational debate.
I thoroughly enjoy an argument with people who understand how their opinion should be supported with evidence that makes sense in the context of the argument - but it seems that 99% of the time I agree with the people that I would actually enjoy arguing with, if we were on opposite sides
sometimes I even agree with NYC
These days I prefer to be
and stay out of it. --
Help! My personality got stuck in this signature machine and I cant get it out!
Macaque of all trades
8,738 posts
Location: wombling free..., United Kingdom
Written by: Neon_Shaolin
Unless the Government implements a system to award Free Porn to entice people to cut down on carbon emissions...
Stranger things have happened...
I've started walking to work where's my free porn?
Climate change exists..and that's that, I doubt we are necessarily causing it though... people want to stop so called global warning stop being vegetarian and eat some of those damn Methane producing Cows
there you go a completely (Ir)rational correlation.
more vegetarians = more cows = increased rate of global warming
makes sense
(P.s I love vegetarians some of my favourite foods are vegans) A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.
Pooh-Bah
1,872 posts
Location: Canada
Written by: Pyrolific
I thoroughly enjoy an argument with people who understand how their opinion should be supported with evidence that makes sense in the context of the argument - but it seems that 99% of the time I agree with the people that I would actually enjoy arguing with, if we were on opposite sides
Me too, and it's part of the reason I take unpopular positions on controversial topics.
I prefer a lively discussion over a boring consensus anyday, and there's the added bonus of actually learning something.
The Ministry of Manipulation
2,523 posts
Location: Bristol, United Kingdom
OK, I propose something instead of an argument.
I don't believe online arguments have any real benefit, Online discussions might,
but I think that the lack of structure and good chairman/woman/personship and lack of a method for forming a conclusion (any way of forming an ending) ultimately dooms them to decay into an argument or fizzle out unsatisfying.
So I propose trying something new, a trial for a new form of discussion on HOP, an potentially a model that works for all online discussions:
A "6 hats" discussion: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=6+hats&btnG=Google+Search
a spot of Edward de Bono.
And I'd also like to flag up (to avoid) the concept of weasel words https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_words
which seem to marr may a good online discusion
So:
1) who wants to be the chair?
2) What do ya want to discuss?
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
you are sooo the chair glass.
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
The Ministry of Manipulation
2,523 posts
Location: Bristol, United Kingdom
Aww.
Meg, That link you posted above was great.
At first I thought it was way off topic, but now I'm thinking that you were suggesting a controversial area for discussion.
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
hardly controversial. Celebrities = oversexed and photoshopped to look better than they actually do, then kids feel inadequate, ugly and gain mental diseases attempting to become an impossible ideal created by media manipulation.
A controversial topic would be how to stop it happening.
And it was off-topic. It reminded me of that dove advert. But funnier.
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
1,189 posts
Location: Edinburgh
A REAL arguement
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
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