Forums > Help! > My PC won't recognise my MP3 player, no music makes me sad :0(

Posted: 8th Sep 2006
Get a copy of Notmad explorer (the free version can't copy files from mp3 players, but can copy to them).

Windows Media Player relies on SP2 things to work fully, and the version recommended for Creatives is 10.

I've got a Zen Vision:M, and it can be a PITA trying to get Windows to recognise it, even with SP2.

Just make sure you've got it plugged into the motherboard USB ports, and not a hub, and if you can't get it to work on USB2, it may work on USB1, just a lot slower.

Creative recommend BIOS and chipset upgrades because some of the earlier USB2 chipsets don't work properly, so the mp3 player won't be found. I've got a cheap USB2 card for my laptop that refuses to work with the Zen.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2006
Hi Jimi

If it's the 20gb zen touch I might be able to help you (I don't know if this advise applies to other creatives too) as I had this problem when I got mine.

The zen touch doesn't work as a remote plug in drive unless you have either:

a) Loaded the software (Nomad explorer) that came with the player onto your computer, in which case only your computer, and others with the Nomad Explorer, will recognise it.

or

b) have downloaded the latest firmware for the player.

I'd recommend downloading the latest firmware from Creative, it's free and easy to find with a quick google. Then you can just plug it into any computer as a extra drive through USB2 (and probably USB1)

And you won't have to worry about upgrading to service pack II either.


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Posted: 8th Sep 2006
ooh.. i had this problem with my zen micro and i even had a fully installed windows xp with service pack 2, and all the latest updates, the whole shebang... turns out i was missing some stupid plugin, which i can't remember what it is at the moment, it's on my computer at home.

But tip: if you download anything, make sure you completely uninstall the player in the device manager, because it won't update until you do that and then reinstall with the software provided.... that frustrated me for a while cos nothing seemed to work... if i find anything else whn i get home i'll let you know

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Posted: 8th Sep 2006
Thank you Polarity and Dunc, I'm off home to try out your kind advice.
Athough, I'm a bit grumpy now as I upgrade my USB1 to USB2 because I got a warning message saying the Zen would run slow on the USB1 - and I thought perhaps that's why it wasn't recognizing it as my putar is oldie -oldie-old - so that was 15squid down the drain!

The Zen is a photo sleek. I reinstalled the software sooooooo many times!
I felt like getting out the ol' vinyl and cranking up the turntables - but couldn't work out how fix them to the bike!
Will let you know how I get on. Thanks!

Posted: 8th Sep 2006
i u paid for USB2 speed, and u want to work with lots of muzak more, quickly, then the USB2 option is best.
cheep USB2 upgrades give u at least 2-4 ports for so little money it's not worth weeping over.
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Posted: 8th Sep 2006
don't worry bout the usb 2 upgrade, it'll make the world of difference

Posted: 10th Sep 2006
I had the problem of my zen microphoto being compleatly wiped and then no longer being recoqnised by my computer, even after software reinstallation. I then found the firmware and installed that and it solved all my problems, it seems to be the best fix. Glad its not just me that seems to be messing up their player though!

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Posted: 11th Sep 2006
if you look somewhere in the mp3/ipod woes thread there is the legacy of whole debacle with my micro, which i managed to wipe and reformat in the space of a week of getting it. Sounds like you had the exact same problem as me

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Posted: 11th Sep 2006
it could be a gyppy battery, had problems with a friends that vanished completely when they changed to their spare battery.

alternatively , hopefully it's just cluttered ex hardware drivers, had it several times with creative kit, this is rather techy but can be dealt with thus, please be careful :

add an environment variable in advanced system properties

"DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES"

set it to "1"

have your creative thinger NOT connected.

load up the device manager, turn on show hidden devices. I'm going to say this now as it's really important : DON'T TOUCH GREYED OUT DEVICES IN THE "NETWORK ADAPTERS" section unless it's a physical network card you KNOW you've removed.

same goes for anything in "Sound, video and game controllers".

most other greyed out things can be safely removed as they're not hardware or drivers you use any more, and they would be re-detected and reinstalled automatically if you did.

any greyed out graphic yellow question marked devices can be safely deleted. anything in the "Universal Serial Bus Contollers" section that's greyed out can go unless its for hardware you know you still use, that just isn't connected at them moment.

turn the environment variable to 0 so no one else messes up your PC.

reconnect creative thinger, it should detect it and prompt you to reinstall things as necessary.

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Posted: 11th Sep 2006
Or just put this in a text file, and rename it to devmgr.cmd

Code:

---

set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
start %systemroot%\system32\devmgmt.msc

---

Saves pushing loads of buttons and hunting for the device manager.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2006
I have right click my computer - manage on autopilot :-/

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