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I have a question for those of the bi/gay/lesbian community that occured to me a few months ago. As a kid, and even it seems in a lot of popular media (movies, etc.) I sometimes hear/hear people using the word "gay" in a negetive sense.
Such as a replacement for "sucks", like "Oh, dude, that's gay", or a replacement for "stupid", etc.I never really thought about it as this was simply another usage that I heard and even used commonly.
However when one of my bi friends was back from Uni a few months ago and heard someone say "That's gay" in the "That's stupid" sense, he seemed a little offended. As I am not gay, I don't have the first hand opinion on this, but in respect I try my best not to use the phrase that way anymore.
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So here's my question: Is this a common offense for those members of the bi-gay-lesbian community? I'm just curious.
I have a question for those of the bi/gay/lesbian community that occured to me a few months ago. As a kid, and even it seems in a lot of popular media (movies, etc.) I sometimes hear/hear people using the word "gay" in a negetive sense.
Such as a replacement for "sucks", like "Oh, dude, that's gay", or a replacement for "stupid", etc.I never really thought about it as this was simply another usage that I heard and even used commonly.
However when one of my bi friends was back from Uni a few months ago and heard someone say "That's gay" in the "That's stupid" sense, he seemed a little offended. As I am not gay, I don't have the first hand opinion on this, but in respect I try my best not to use the phrase that way anymore.
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So here's my question: Is this a common offense for those members of the bi-gay-lesbian community? I'm just curious.
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i suppose it's in the same way only the right kind of people, and it the right context that you can say Nigger.
it's all about what your intentions are behind the word, if it's not meant to be offensive it shouldn't be taken in that way. unfortunatly it doesn't always come out this way.
on this note, why is it wrong for me to call a white friend a Nigger?
i suppose it's in the same way only the right kind of people, and it the right context that you can say Nigger.
it's all about what your intentions are behind the word, if it's not meant to be offensive it shouldn't be taken in that way. unfortunatly it doesn't always come out this way.
on this note, why is it wrong for me to call a white friend a Nigger?
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Nope doesn't offend me, but then I don't take my sexuality very seriously.
Two things though.
I've enjoyed watching some of my friends squirm when they've said this, and then realized I'm present.
And I use "straight" in pretty much the same way....
Nope doesn't offend me, but then I don't take my sexuality very seriously.
Two things though.
I've enjoyed watching some of my friends squirm when they've said this, and then realized I'm present.
And I use "straight" in pretty much the same way....
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Its fascination how the word 'Gay' has evolved over the past hundred years - from Happy to Gay to Crap/Stupid.
Im not completely sure about the reasons for the first evolution - I think the second more recent evolution (or perhaps devolution) is due to school boys insults -where homophobia is generally rife at that young age, but has then moved into a more common put down. I've only really noticed start over the past few years - the first time i heard it a girl was talking about a rival school - 'that school is SOOOO gay' - i said 'what? is that a requirement for entry?' and she looked at me blankly.
Does it offend? Is it justified being offended by someone else using the word where no offense is intended? personally it can sometimes get my hackles up a bit with the oblivious implication that Gay = Stupid, but i dont take myself too seriously, and who can really control slang that evolves with a group of teenagers?
Perhaps while Gay has evolved to other meaning for some, that 'Queer' is increasingly used - but will that go down the same path?
It is intresting though how it is acceptable to use those 'negative' terms jokingly within a community - but from outside a community it is an insult.
For instance, when a gay friends spent 40 mins deciding what to wear, i said 'you are such a fag' as a joke - but walking down the streets afterward and have a bunch of inbred rednecks leanout of their ute, with groomed mullets flapping in the breeze, yell out 'faggots!' across the street - that is offensive.
so if no offense is intended - should it be offensive -or should it be considered culturally ignorant of using a word without considering the historical context of the word.
hmmm...
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Its fascination how the word 'Gay' has evolved over the past hundred years - from Happy to Gay to Crap/Stupid.
Im not completely sure about the reasons for the first evolution - I think the second more recent evolution (or perhaps devolution) is due to school boys insults -where homophobia is generally rife at that young age, but has then moved into a more common put down. I've only really noticed start over the past few years - the first time i heard it a girl was talking about a rival school - 'that school is SOOOO gay' - i said 'what? is that a requirement for entry?' and she looked at me blankly.
Does it offend? Is it justified being offended by someone else using the word where no offense is intended? personally it can sometimes get my hackles up a bit with the oblivious implication that Gay = Stupid, but i dont take myself too seriously, and who can really control slang that evolves with a group of teenagers?
Perhaps while Gay has evolved to other meaning for some, that 'Queer' is increasingly used - but will that go down the same path?
It is intresting though how it is acceptable to use those 'negative' terms jokingly within a community - but from outside a community it is an insult.
For instance, when a gay friends spent 40 mins deciding what to wear, i said 'you are such a fag' as a joke - but walking down the streets afterward and have a bunch of inbred rednecks leanout of their ute, with groomed mullets flapping in the breeze, yell out 'faggots!' across the street - that is offensive.
so if no offense is intended - should it be offensive -or should it be considered culturally ignorant of using a word without considering the historical context of the word.
hmmm...
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Posted:
I just asked my gay friend:
"it far and wide depends on how serious they use to describe the crapness of said gay thing, it's hard to explain ,it's a tone thing. if you say "well, that's just gay" with a laugh or something, cool, i do it tonnes of times. but if you say it angrily i find it offensive"
*giggles at the memory of him watching the rugby yelling out "wilkinson you faggot!!!"*
I just asked my gay friend:
"it far and wide depends on how serious they use to describe the crapness of said gay thing, it's hard to explain ,it's a tone thing. if you say "well, that's just gay" with a laugh or something, cool, i do it tonnes of times. but if you say it angrily i find it offensive"
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it offends me to hear school kids useing the word gay as an insult to each other and i think schools and parents should be more open about peoples sexuality and help kids to understand that being gay is not a bad thing. my dad was gay and i was brought up with an open mined about it it did not confuse me as a kid and did not affect me or my sexuality. for this reason i think that if kids were given more infomation on it and see it as a positive thing in every day life there would be less hate and negative out looks on sexuality.
it offends me to hear school kids useing the word gay as an insult to each other and i think schools and parents should be more open about peoples sexuality and help kids to understand that being gay is not a bad thing. my dad was gay and i was brought up with an open mined about it it did not confuse me as a kid and did not affect me or my sexuality. for this reason i think that if kids were given more infomation on it and see it as a positive thing in every day life there would be less hate and negative out looks on sexuality.
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I really have no issue with it, I use the word 'straight' in the same way, as Chrono said earlier. Although my flat mate does call me straight boy... the only one I object to is being called a faggot. I'm not a lump of minced lamb in gravy!
I really have no issue with it, I use the word 'straight' in the same way, as Chrono said earlier. Although my flat mate does call me straight boy... the only one I object to is being called a faggot. I'm not a lump of minced lamb in gravy!
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I call things I dont like gay all the time. Sometimes when I feel like it I put 'and not in the good way' on the end but mostly I just call something gay if I think its stupid/crap whatever. I know I dont mean in the sexual way so I think its fine for anyone to use.
I call things I dont like gay all the time. Sometimes when I feel like it I put 'and not in the good way' on the end but mostly I just call something gay if I think its stupid/crap whatever. I know I dont mean in the sexual way so I think its fine for anyone to use.
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ive been using gay as a term for lame since i picked it up off my (now ex) girlfriend about a year ago. After realising i was doing this i asked a gay freind if they found it offensive and they were fine with it. They also pointed out that it seemed to be growing in popularity since south park came out. TV is a major influence on language and loads of people watch south park so its certainly a theory.
ive been using gay as a term for lame since i picked it up off my (now ex) girlfriend about a year ago. After realising i was doing this i asked a gay freind if they found it offensive and they were fine with it. They also pointed out that it seemed to be growing in popularity since south park came out. TV is a major influence on language and loads of people watch south park so its certainly a theory.
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When I came out, my dad was fine with it. My mum actually served faggots for tea that night...
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... the only one I object to is being called a faggot. I'm not a lump of minced lamb in gravy!
When I came out, my dad was fine with it. My mum actually served faggots for tea that night...
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yeah, if it's an insult then i'm not really impressed....however just as a general term for not that great...well, no one's being offensive so i'm sure i can get over it!
yeah, if it's an insult then i'm not really impressed....however just as a general term for not that great...well, no one's being offensive so i'm sure i can get over it!
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For me, it all depends on the context. It definetly is a problem that our communities name is used in a negative sense (like calling someone a pussy), however I don't get offended when my roomate uses the term, because I know he has no problem with my sexuality.
Being harrassed in high school and having people use the term there was definetly an insult, and I got into many fights because of it. When I dont know what the persons feelings are on who I am, I have more of a problem with it. But overall, we as a community have to find ways to get the negative conotation out of mainstreem conversation.
For me, it all depends on the context. It definetly is a problem that our communities name is used in a negative sense (like calling someone a pussy), however I don't get offended when my roomate uses the term, because I know he has no problem with my sexuality.
Being harrassed in high school and having people use the term there was definetly an insult, and I got into many fights because of it. When I dont know what the persons feelings are on who I am, I have more of a problem with it. But overall, we as a community have to find ways to get the negative conotation out of mainstreem conversation.
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what?? theres actually a dish called a 'faggot'?
isnt it also a word for a branch or piece of wood? i seem to remember reading an old fantasy book a while back and reading 'he came back with some faggots for the fire' and thinking WTF! before looking it up in the dictionary...
here we go for some other definitions->
fag·ot also fag·got
n.
- A bundle of twigs, sticks, or branches bound together.
- A bundle of pieces of iron or steel to be welded or hammered into bars
tr.v. fag·ot·ed, also fag·got·ed fag·ot·ing, fag·got·ing fag·ots, fag·gots
- To bind into a fagot; bundle.
- To decorate with fagoting.
v 1: ornament or join (fabric) by faggot stitch; "He fagotted the blouse for his wife"
what a fantastic example!!
Written by: ChronofractureWritten by: Drudwyn
... the only one I object to is being called a faggot. I'm not a lump of minced lamb in gravy!
When I came out, my dad was fine with it. My mum actually served faggots for tea that night...
what?? theres actually a dish called a 'faggot'?
isnt it also a word for a branch or piece of wood? i seem to remember reading an old fantasy book a while back and reading 'he came back with some faggots for the fire' and thinking WTF! before looking it up in the dictionary...
here we go for some other definitions->
fag·ot also fag·got
n.
- A bundle of twigs, sticks, or branches bound together.
- A bundle of pieces of iron or steel to be welded or hammered into bars
tr.v. fag·ot·ed, also fag·got·ed fag·ot·ing, fag·got·ing fag·ots, fag·gots
- To bind into a fagot; bundle.
- To decorate with fagoting.
v 1: ornament or join (fabric) by faggot stitch; "He fagotted the blouse for his wife"
what a fantastic example!! "Here kitty kitty...." - Schroedinger.
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Hmmm... thanks for the replies. I was just curious if there was any kind of community response to it. I see it on South Park all the time, and in other media as well, and it sparked me to wonder.
Hmmm... thanks for the replies. I was just curious if there was any kind of community response to it. I see it on South Park all the time, and in other media as well, and it sparked me to wonder.
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as we all know, i'm a raving fag-hag... most of my gay friends will say "that's so gay" when describing things they don't like... and though i know it evolved from primary-school homophobia, i tend to think of it ad being used in the same way that people use the words "sick" and "wicked" ... in irony. (sick means to be ill/not in good health, and wicked means to be bad/evil, but both are used to describe something that's good or cool or whatever, and gay means to be happy and joyous but is used to describe things that are thought to be lame)
so in summary, no, i don't think too many people find it offensive...
Though having said all that... i'd still like to hear it used a little less often.
as we all know, i'm a raving fag-hag... most of my gay friends will say "that's so gay" when describing things they don't like... and though i know it evolved from primary-school homophobia, i tend to think of it ad being used in the same way that people use the words "sick" and "wicked" ... in irony. (sick means to be ill/not in good health, and wicked means to be bad/evil, but both are used to describe something that's good or cool or whatever, and gay means to be happy and joyous but is used to describe things that are thought to be lame)
so in summary, no, i don't think too many people find it offensive...
Though having said all that... i'd still like to hear it used a little less often.
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unfortunatly i think fagot came into usage for homosexuals as 'thrown on the fire to burn like a bunch of twigs is the best place for them' :-(
Written by: DentrassiWritten by: ChronofractureWritten by: Drudwyn
... the only one I object to is being called a faggot. I'm not a lump of minced lamb in gravy!
When I came out, my dad was fine with it. My mum actually served faggots for tea that night...
what?? theres actually a dish called a 'faggot'?
isnt it also a word for a branch or piece of wood? i seem to remember reading an old fantasy book a while back and reading 'he came back with some faggots for the fire' and thinking WTF! before looking it up in the dictionary...
unfortunatly i think fagot came into usage for homosexuals as 'thrown on the fire to burn like a bunch of twigs is the best place for them' :-(
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I must say I find it gets a bit irritating when people use gay as an offensive word. It's just one of those things that seem to get on my nerves a bit... but *shrug* that's just me...
I must say I find it gets a bit irritating when people use gay as an offensive word. It's just one of those things that seem to get on my nerves a bit... but *shrug* that's just me...
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yeah same, everyone was using it on the weekend... it annoyed me heaps... things don't have a sexuality!
yeah same, everyone was using it on the weekend... it annoyed me heaps... things don't have a sexuality!
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You have done well. Perhaps the best I have seen in some time.
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south park is a different kind of example....as isaac hayes has so cleverly demonstrated, you can't relly be insulted by it - SP is generally served with an enormous helping of irony.
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Hmmm... thanks for the replies. I was just curious if there was any kind of community response to it. I see it on South Park all the time, and in other media as well, and it sparked me to wonder.
south park is a different kind of example....as isaac hayes has so cleverly demonstrated, you can't relly be insulted by it - SP is generally served with an enormous helping of irony.
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see: kevin smith's run-in with 'glaad' a few years back over the use of the word 'gay' as a negative term in the film 'jay and silent bob strike back'.
as long as it is not used as a derogatory term towards homosexuals, i couldn't give a crap how else the word is used.
dentrassi's example of the word 'queer' is a perfect parallel i think.
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see: kevin smith's run-in with 'glaad' a few years back over the use of the word 'gay' as a negative term in the film 'jay and silent bob strike back'.
as long as it is not used as a derogatory term towards homosexuals, i couldn't give a crap how else the word is used.
dentrassi's example of the word 'queer' is a perfect parallel i think.
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from your link cole...
# Offensive Slang. Homosexual.
interesting...
personally i think the offense is there because other words like fag or whatever are slang words, where as gay is the accepted descriptive term, or homosexual i guess, but that only applies to 100% gay people, where as i would describe myself as gay (a bit!). so using it as a derogatory term is indirectly saying that 'gay' is a bad thing.
it's like saying anything that someone definately is (as opposed to an opinion like fatass!) is related to being negative.
i think...
from your link cole...
# Offensive Slang. Homosexual.
interesting...
personally i think the offense is there because other words like fag or whatever are slang words, where as gay is the accepted descriptive term, or homosexual i guess, but that only applies to 100% gay people, where as i would describe myself as gay (a bit!). so using it as a derogatory term is indirectly saying that 'gay' is a bad thing.
it's like saying anything that someone definately is (as opposed to an opinion like fatass!) is related to being negative.
i think...
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I don't like it at all. There's just too many connections between teasing/depression/suicide in young people who are homosexual for it to be comfortable. Not to mention violence.
Imagine if every time something was described as lame, ineffectual, pathetic etc the word 'English' was used. Or 'male'. I mean, for long enough describing something as 'girly' had the same meaning! That wasn't good for girls and I can't see it's good for gays either.
I don't like it at all. There's just too many connections between teasing/depression/suicide in young people who are homosexual for it to be comfortable. Not to mention violence.
Imagine if every time something was described as lame, ineffectual, pathetic etc the word 'English' was used. Or 'male'. I mean, for long enough describing something as 'girly' had the same meaning! That wasn't good for girls and I can't see it's good for gays either.
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i get you gabe, but can we really try to restrict the use of language so much?
is using the word 'queer' offensive because of its previous negative connotations?
is using the word 'black' to describe dark and sinister things racist?
i think its more about context.
look at your use of the word 'lame' there to describe something as ineffectual and pathetic - is that not offensive to people who are unable to walk?
i would say it is not, because the use of the word is not directly related to the disability the word also describes.
and if you're looking for negative words based around a male concept, try the use of any word referring to male genetalia used in the context of describing something/one as being useless or pointless.
cole. x
i get you gabe, but can we really try to restrict the use of language so much?
is using the word 'queer' offensive because of its previous negative connotations?
is using the word 'black' to describe dark and sinister things racist?
i think its more about context.
look at your use of the word 'lame' there to describe something as ineffectual and pathetic - is that not offensive to people who are unable to walk?
i would say it is not, because the use of the word is not directly related to the disability the word also describes.
and if you're looking for negative words based around a male concept, try the use of any word referring to male genetalia used in the context of describing something/one as being useless or pointless.
cole. x
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Actually we kinda do that over here in America. Well, not directly, but if a kid was making fun of another kid for being a wimp he might speak with an English accent to mock him.
Random example that has probably happened:
American dude #1: "No, I'll walk over here, I don't want to get my pants dirty"
American dude #2: (in mocking fake english accent) "Ohh... Look at me... I'm guy #1 and I don't want to get my pants dirty."
True story. Thought it was kinda funny. Of course, if any of my kids did that I'd yell at them. At least until they got the accent right.
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Imagine if every time something was described as lame, ineffectual, pathetic etc the word 'English' was used.
Actually we kinda do that over here in America. Well, not directly, but if a kid was making fun of another kid for being a wimp he might speak with an English accent to mock him.
Random example that has probably happened:
American dude #1: "No, I'll walk over here, I don't want to get my pants dirty"
American dude #2: (in mocking fake english accent) "Ohh... Look at me... I'm guy #1 and I don't want to get my pants dirty."
True story. Thought it was kinda funny. Of course, if any of my kids did that I'd yell at them. At least until they got the accent right.
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Hmmm well being bi, and not really giving a [censored] anyways I dont get insulted...
mind Gay used to be used in a happy sense....
sometimes I use 2 but not often.... it seems backwards to me. I will always find slang amusing.
I recommend the use of moofusistic as an amusing alternative...
Hmmm well being bi, and not really giving a [censored] anyways I dont get insulted...
mind Gay used to be used in a happy sense....
sometimes I use 2 but not often.... it seems backwards to me. I will always find slang amusing.
I recommend the use of moofusistic as an amusing alternative...
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What???
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Hmmm well being bi, and not really giving aanyways I dont get insulted...
mind Gay used to be used in a happy sense....
sometimes I use 2 but not often.... it seems backwards to me. I will always find slang amusing.
I recommend the use of moofusistic as an amusing alternative...
What???
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It is very strange indeed how people use the word "gay" nowadays. It does seem to have become a random insult, similar to how (in Ireland at least) the word "special" has changed almost completely into an insult.
Overheard on the bus recently:
Teenage boy 1: I'm going to my girlfriend's to watch a DVD
Teenage boy 2: Dude, that's so gay!
Or another time, myself and Lee, my boyfriend were stopped at traffic lights in his van, and a random drunk male, leaning heavily on another random drunk male, yelled "Faggot!" at my boyfriend.
To which Lee calmly pointed out that the other guy was the one with his arm around another man.
I imagine that if i was gay, I wouldn't exactly be overjoyed about the above 2 examples - although they are pretty funny at the same time. It just seems that to some people, "gay" no longer even means homosexual, it's just an insult.
But words have always changed meanings - historically, to describe someone as "nice" would have been an insult.
It is very strange indeed how people use the word "gay" nowadays. It does seem to have become a random insult, similar to how (in Ireland at least) the word "special" has changed almost completely into an insult.
Overheard on the bus recently:
Teenage boy 1: I'm going to my girlfriend's to watch a DVD
Teenage boy 2: Dude, that's so gay!
Or another time, myself and Lee, my boyfriend were stopped at traffic lights in his van, and a random drunk male, leaning heavily on another random drunk male, yelled "Faggot!" at my boyfriend.
To which Lee calmly pointed out that the other guy was the one with his arm around another man.
I imagine that if i was gay, I wouldn't exactly be overjoyed about the above 2 examples - although they are pretty funny at the same time. It just seems that to some people, "gay" no longer even means homosexual, it's just an insult.
But words have always changed meanings - historically, to describe someone as "nice" would have been an insult.
Helen_of_Poi
EJC Ireland 2006 Organisational Team
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