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Str8JakitDealing in Perception & Probability
135 posts
Location: On the edge of sunrise and sunset


Posted:
I'm not sure if this should be in descussion or chat. This would be "normal" convesation to my friends and I, but it may be a discussion to others. So...whatever. On to my point....

Last night, as I was reading, the people in the appartment above me begain to fight; again. It happens at least 3 times a week, and they are not shy about it. Any way.....
I was thinking to myself, what would I do if something major happened during this fight? E.G. he tossed her off the 2nd floor balcony (that's where they were fighting this time) I thought out what I would do, all the way down to what i would say to the police. Then the most humbeling thought came to my mind. Nothing like that ever happens to or around me. Now I'm not saying that's a bad thing. By all accounts it's not. But still.....

It seems to me that nothing extraordinary ever happens to or around me. Now I know to most of you this seems highly narcissistic. And in a way it is. But the thought of living an "ordinary life" bothers the piss out of me! To become one of the nameless, a number, forgotten. It's a truely humbeling thought to me.
don't worry I'm getting to the point
So I was wondering, what thoughts humble others? And that's my point. I want to know and talk about what humbles you......
Now I understand that extraordinary things happen to people all over the world each day. And alot of them are negative. So before one of you goes off on how I should be thankful for this, and greatful for that, let me just state, I am thankful that nothing seriously negative has happened to me. And I am greatful for the gifts the universe has given me. But being forgotten is my humbeling thought.

Legal and illegal are a point of view. All that matters is morality.

If there's a shadow in your life, then there is also sunshine. Perception is everything.


StoutBRONZE Member
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Posted:
Yuta

jeff(fake)Scientist of Fortune
1,189 posts
Location: Edinburgh


Posted:
Eventually everyone is forgotten. The books crumble and civilisations fall. One day even the world and the universe will die. For that reason I think that any atempt at making a permanent mark is ultimately futile but that thought doesn't humble me in the slightest. The only thing I find humbling are my limits, I can only think so fast and remember so much and many things will be forever beyond me. But I can still console myself with the fact that I'm still smarter than almost everyone else on this planet. biggrin

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Str8JakitDealing in Perception & Probability
135 posts
Location: On the edge of sunrise and sunset


Posted:
lmao jeff. to bad i took the title of worlds smartest long ago wink

and you are right jeff, people are forgoten in time. books to waste away. and empires fall. there are no exceptions. but still, being forgoten is what i think of when i need to bring myself back don to earth. know what i mean?

now what's funny, and half insulting, is that there were 26 hits before this thread even got 2 reponses. hm....

Legal and illegal are a point of view. All that matters is morality.

If there's a shadow in your life, then there is also sunshine. Perception is everything.


NOnactivist for HoPper liberation.
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Posted:
couldn't have put it better myself... anyway, no-one can really 'remember' you one or two generations past your death, because they never know you. What would you want to be remembered for anyway? getting in the paper's just ain't going to cut it, it's not like fame guarantees future rememberance, as proved by the hundreds of fleeting celebrities who disappear into obscurity....

However according to the laws of complexity, you already have made an indelible mark on the world, just by existing, everyone and everything you have interacted with has changed slightly because of you... and then there's ancestry.............. think about that, it's a nice idea, nej? surely you cannot be forgotten....

well, until the universe dies i guess....

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NOnactivist for HoPper liberation.
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Posted:
oh. um... digital information is not secure. look up digital preservation, everyone's trying to figure out what to do about it....

hmm, which brings me back to a previous thread i posted about what would happen if the internet was deleted.... it's around somewhere....... but i'm not going to link it, because, maybe i'd like it to get lost in the sands of internet time......... umm

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Str8JakitDealing in Perception & Probability
135 posts
Location: On the edge of sunrise and sunset


Posted:
ok.. NOn you are correct. but off point. i want to know what YOUR humbeling thought is. not analize mine. but again, you do make a solid point my friend.....

.....the infamous Yuta huh? yes i could see that. but i get inspired when i see those vids. i refuse to let myself be humbeled by a person. inspired yes. but never humbeled. now i will admit openly, after 3 years of spinning, i am NO WHERE near that calibur. but such is life

Legal and illegal are a point of view. All that matters is morality.

If there's a shadow in your life, then there is also sunshine. Perception is everything.


NOnactivist for HoPper liberation.
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Location: ffidrac


Posted:
oops, i wandered...

so my humbling thought? it's similar i guess, i just think about how many billions of people there are on Earth, how many billions of other animals, how many billions of plants there are, how powerful are the forces of nature, and how many gazillions of stars there are in the sky, and i feel humbled.... and selfish... unnecessary and yet strangely necessary.... and lots of other feelings all at the same time....

Aurinko freedom agreement reached 10th Sept 2006

if it makes no sense that's because it's NOn-sense.


Str8JakitDealing in Perception & Probability
135 posts
Location: On the edge of sunrise and sunset


Posted:
beautifully put.....the sky gets me from time to time as well.

Legal and illegal are a point of view. All that matters is morality.

If there's a shadow in your life, then there is also sunshine. Perception is everything.


NOnactivist for HoPper liberation.
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Location: ffidrac


Posted:
thanks smile

Aurinko freedom agreement reached 10th Sept 2006

if it makes no sense that's because it's NOn-sense.


StoutBRONZE Member
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Location: Canada


Posted:
The famous Yuta you mean. Infamy is famous, but in a bad way, like Charles Manson.

It's the only answer I could come up with seeing as how I wasn't feeling philosophical and didn't want to suggest things like infinity, ancient civilizations, and calculus. I was just being lazy.

I was thinking in the same vein as your first post, about being remembered and trying to tie it in to the lack of exciting things in your life and funnily enough, I was going to suggest the road to infamy as a way to kill two birds with one stone, but thought better of it.

Using Yuta as an example was just my way of working heroes and idols into the picture, more specifically in a context that might be thought of as achievable to most people on this site ( as opposed to becoming say,,,the new lead singer of U2 )

I've been spinning three years too, and I'm nowhere near that caliber either, and I can't help feeling that Yuta's tapped into something I'm missing, maybe I'll discover it tonight, maybe it'll take another three years, but for now, from a poi spinning perspective I'm humbled, and awed.

the_poierSILVER Member
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that without without me the whole world would crumble down and die...just joking(well not really i really am the most important thing there ever was...) nana what humbles me is that the whole human race and all its creations...EVER still amount to nothing compared to what there is out there and that to what is out there everything we do has nearly no effect and infact noone is significant...at all...[/end cynical rant]

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Str8JakitDealing in Perception & Probability
135 posts
Location: On the edge of sunrise and sunset


Posted:
ah. i see said the blind man. yes i have often thought about murder as way to make my mark, but then i remember i am practicing Taoist, and something inside says murder will not help me find The Way. lol but trust me it does cross my mind

Legal and illegal are a point of view. All that matters is morality.

If there's a shadow in your life, then there is also sunshine. Perception is everything.


TinklePantsGOLD Member
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Posted:
If the internet is never switched off, and people keep backing up this site, my gravestone will read...

Tamara C Rees (Tinklepants)
Loving Mother
Liked to play with fire, died trying.


and in really tiny writing

Oi you're standing on my head!
(www.homeofpoi.com - can you still smell the barbecue?)


lol

Always use "so's your face" and "only on Tuesdays" in as many conversations possible


ben-ja-menGOLD Member
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Location: Adelaide, Australia


Posted:
i find the existence of the following numbers to be extraordinarily humbling

e (the base of natural logarithms) = 2.71828...

pi = 3.14159265....

and the relationship e to the power of (pi times i) equals -1 to be mind bending



phi (golden ratio which defines the ratio that makes things aesthetically pleasing) = 1.61803399....



interesting side note there was a group call the Phythagorians who where an ancient cult who saw astronomy/mathematics/spirituality/knowledge/etc to all be one and the same *sigh* ah for the good old days ubbangel

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?


micoBRONZE Member
freedom in chains
176 posts
Location: San Francisco & Oxford, United Kingdom


Posted:
Written by: ben-ja-men


i find the existence of the following numbers to be extraordinarily humbling
e (the base of natural logarithms) = 2.71828...
pi = 3.14159265....
and the relationship e to the power of (pi times i) equals -1 to be mind bending





What's humbling about pi? Apart from when its humble pi.. biggrin

The e,pi,-1 & i relationship is very beautiful, but it makes sense on
the complex plane. However the fact that the complex plane works
and that the world we live in is so demonstrably subtle and rich is a
source of delight, amazement and a few truck loads of humble pie.
weavesmiley

~peace is a fire~


TinklePantsGOLD Member
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Posted:
mmmm floor pie *drools*....

Always use "so's your face" and "only on Tuesdays" in as many conversations possible


oliSILVER Member
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Posted:
when i consider the fact that im actually here , alive on earth (which allways seems horribly unlikely to me when you think about how massive the universe is and how long its been around for).. that is a humbling thought...

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They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
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VampyricAcidSILVER Member
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Posted:
I have to agree with NOn, lying back and looking up at those billions of stars, the magnitude of the universe, and how little and insignificant we are in the whole scheme of things.

another humbling thought is we could fall off the planet tomorrow, the whole human race could just vanish, and the world would continue without us, time would still pass, things would still be born, grow and die, a whole history just forgotten, never mind me being remembered, the whole human race is a fragile little blip in the magnitude of the universe, and in the blink of an eye we could vanish and nothing would change

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FireTomStargazer
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Posted:
blarb... being forgotten unless you do something that makes you famous... the ancient dream of doing something extraordinary... examples like the pyramids, stonehenge, the collosseo. women like (the Bloody) Mary, Deliah, Mother Theresa, Marylin Monroe... wink men like Mose, Pythagoras, A. the Great, Gsus, Archimedes, d. Vinci, G. Galillei, A.H. rolleyes

Uff... what's this about? Superiority or inferior complex? wink

Is that a male concept???

The thought that humbles me? There are actually 1K a day that do. A small list of mine coming up right here and now:

a) a tiny little (defect) cable or screw, or a tiny dog crossing the road can cause my death anytime later on my motorbike ... frown
b) Yuta smile
c) all human creation and intelligence together is still not even a microdrop in the ocean of natures inventions ubbangel but just a part of it! biggrin
d) right now the very same thoughts are shared with 1.359.845 people thinking exactly the same IN THIS VERY INSTANT! cool
e) projecting myself (angle of view) 2km's above my head and look down... rolleyes (google.earth) wink
f) M.C.Escher... biggrin

@Jakit: think of all those people (mayority even) that would love to switch places with you... in my case it's also not much crap happening to others whilst I'm around and not too much happening to myself either... still last time I told someone the "story of my life" she actually started crying...

I consider myself lucky, that my travel plans have taken me to Bali 1 week after the bombing twice in those three years... phew... peace

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regression proved that in my previous life I got killed on 22.11.1963 at Wootens Lake, near Waxahachie/ Texas at precisely 15:47pm whilst waiting for my contact, by CIA-Agents as being "the second assassin of J.F.K." - but this doesn't make me famous, does it? wink

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Str8JakitDealing in Perception & Probability
135 posts
Location: On the edge of sunrise and sunset


Posted:
hm....so it seems exsistance is the most common answer. or something along those lines ubblol
that's interesting......it brings to mind the ever popular, "what is exsistance?" question......and the not so popular, but very often next question, "do i dare start THAT disscusion?".....no.

Legal and illegal are a point of view. All that matters is morality.

If there's a shadow in your life, then there is also sunshine. Perception is everything.


FireTomStargazer
6,650 posts

Posted:
amo ego sum... ubblove

the best smiles are the ones you lead to wink


GeoffonTour04SILVER Member
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Posted:
I'm humbled when I think of the history of evolution & the human race boiling down to a bag of water & organs with electrons for thoughts, and how far we've now come in shaping the environment to our own preferences, and how many of us there now are.

I'm personally humbled by people who, whether they have the ability or not, put every effort into achieving something they believe in cause I've always taken naturally to learning 'skills' but I'm so lazy I'd rather just sit around watching tv

TinklePantsGOLD Member
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Location: Edinburgh burgh burrrrrr, United Kingdom


Posted:
i'm humbled by how each and every person on this earth is unique. except the wannabe's coz they are just soooo sad lol

Always use "so's your face" and "only on Tuesdays" in as many conversations possible


GothFrogetteBRONZE Member
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Location: Nuneaton, United Kingdom


Posted:
Children humble me especialy mine.
My children humble me in more ways than anyone can imagine. they have both been through alot and my oldest more than most adults i know. and yet every day to them is lived to the fullest, when i am at my lowest they help me pull through, whether its a puppet performance or a drawing they always makle me smile. they know times are hard especially financialy. before Yule my oldest sat me down and told me that he had had loads of yules before,has loads of things he wants and that he wouldn't mind if he went without so his little brother could have something to open.then he hugged me and said that as long as we were all together he would be happy. They both do me more than proud and are very bright funny and independant boys despite life being a constant struggle. My sons by the way are 5 and 12(on sunday) ubblove

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Posted:
hug

Give them lots of new year hugs from me too lady biggrin

Take care
xx

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NOnactivist for HoPper liberation.
1,643 posts
Location: ffidrac


Posted:
Written by: FireTom


d) right now the very same thoughts are shared with 1.359.845 people thinking exactly the same IN THIS VERY INSTANT! cool





is that a fact? i mean how was that worked out? or am i being extremely gullible here....? I quite like the idea though, it's sort of comforting...

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Str8JakitDealing in Perception & Probability
135 posts
Location: On the edge of sunrise and sunset


Posted:
i think i'm being gullible too NOn. ok tom, explanation of that number please......and if that many people are thinking exactly what i am right now......there are some sick people in this world ubblol seiously sick

Legal and illegal are a point of view. All that matters is morality.

If there's a shadow in your life, then there is also sunshine. Perception is everything.


janiceBRONZE Member
Member
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Location: Canada


Posted:
my most humbling thought was when i gave birth to my children . i gave them life ( ya well i had some help). but new life !!i was holding life in my very hands. it was a true moment of unconditonal love.

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micoBRONZE Member
freedom in chains
176 posts
Location: San Francisco & Oxford, United Kingdom


Posted:
Written by: janice


my most humbling thought was when i gave birth to my children.[..] it was a true moment of unconditonal love.




lovely...humility and unconditional love in the same thought.

weavesmiley

~peace is a fire~


jeff(fake)Scientist of Fortune
1,189 posts
Location: Edinburgh


Posted:
The 1970 nobel peace prize winner Norman Borlaug is perhaps the nearest I get to having heros. They say he's saved over a billion people world wide. Probably many, many more. He's the epitamy of what it means to me to be a scientist, yet almost no-one has heard of him whilst the average schmoe in the street will know almost everthing about some vacuous soap actress.



That's humbling (and depressing).

According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...


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