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Posted:So im watching Jamie Oliver's School dinners. He made a really nice looking fajiata (sp?) and offered a kid 100 to try it! Fool!

Seriously, why don't kids like exciting new foods? are they scared? Or what? I dunno. I was always asked to try stuff that was new. I normally did. So the idea of turning down food cooked by a celebraty chef seems alien to me! Any ideas why kids don't like to try new foods?


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Posted:No idea!

When i was little my dad used to make me try "anything once" He used to force me to eat all types of wierd and wonderful food.

But I'm glad he did. It was a nice rule in my house. Try anything once. If you dont like, you dont have to have it again. Worked well though!!


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Posted:Yeah, sam kinda regime at my house. I used to hate prawns, cos they used to taste nasty. Now the delicious! Hmmmm... thai prawn curry *drools*

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Posted:Because it doesn't have a McD's logo on it?

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Posted:Maybe he should try wrapping things in a fake fast food wrappers and see if they eat, and like it then?

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Posted:I read somewhere that kids are born not trusting dark green foods beacuse they are bitter tasting. This was, I think, an evolutionary thing as bitterness can sometimes mean poisinous.

Oh, and kids like things blue. And you don't get any naturally occuring blue food.


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Posted:Ah, that clears up a mystery for me... There's a hideous breakfast cereal aimed at kids in the states that turns the milk blue! Wondered what on earth posessed them....

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Posted:thats nasty *shudders* the best breakfast cereal is Cookie Crisps! biggrin ubblove

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Posted:I swear my heart was racing all morning after eating them :bleugh:

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Posted:what? The cookie crisps? Thats cos they are loaded with sugar. One mouthfull and ur dosed up to the eyeballs. I love it! ubbloco

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Posted:Nah, the blue cereal... cookie crisps are tame compared to that stuff!

These days I play it healthy, and just have cake for breakfast instead biggrin


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Posted:Written by: polythene

These days I play it healthy, and just have cake for breakfast instead biggrin



Oh man, Icant manage anything rich in the morning, I feel so bad afterwards, the same with anything tangy, like orange juice... But i can drink pepsi in the morning. Huuuuuugeeeee energy boost.

The blue stuff is probs the most evil stuff in the world. Cereal makers made it to piss of parents ubblol


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Posted:Its very individaul as well. Of my three one will try anything (usually) then hate it. One wont go near anything without a battle and the other will try it as long as its with something he likes.
They also are wary of anything at Maccas they havent eaten before!!!
Found good lever. All dinner must be eaten before World of Warcraft is played. Its worke once anyways.


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Posted:How old are ur kids? Cos ive never heard of young kids playing on mmorpgs (massively multiplyaer online games) before. But leverage like taht pretty much always works. Once u find the right one, they are but putty in ur hands *evil laugh*

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Posted:Shouldn't they learn to do things because things should be done rather than only doing it because of the direct reward?

"be nice and you'll get a sweet" is something I hate people saying! Be nice because it's nice to be nice!

*cough*

That kid was very stupid not to take the 100. Think of all the cool stuff he could have got with it...or all the fast food he could have to take the taste away from the "nasty" food.

Mr Oliver was ever more stupid to think that bribing is the way to get kids to eat well.


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Posted:Apparently, children tend to eat most foods after they've tried them a certain number of times. I'm not sure how many tastings it takes, although I seem to remember it being around 12. A lot of parents don't realise this and give up well before getting to that number - after all, it does involve wasting a lot of food and additional work in cooking the food to replace what they won't eat - but if a child isn't offered the food regularly, it's no surprise they won't eat it at all.

Another factor is that, even well past the weaning stage, if a child isn't encouraged to physically eat well, they will tend to choose foods which require minimum chewing, for example.

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Shouldn't they learn to do things because things should be done rather than only doing it because of the direct reward?

"be nice and you'll get a sweet" is something I hate people saying! Be nice because it's nice to be nice!

*cough*

That kid was very stupid not to take the 100. Think of all the cool stuff he could have got with it...or all the fast food he could have to take the taste away from the "nasty" food.

Mr Oliver was ever more stupid to think that bribing is the way to get kids to eat well.



I don't think he was bribing them to get them to eat well as much as proving how much of a battle it is - which is probably why they used that part on their trailers.

And I'd imagine that when this child recalled the story to his peers, they would've pointed out how easy it would have been just to eat the food, even if it wasn't as cool as chips and the like. I'd also imagine that, fairly soon in the future, he'll also realise that it was likely he'd probably have liked it as well.

"Be nice and you'll get a sweet" isn't particularly realistic nor effective, though I think it's fair at dinnertimes when all those present and eating would be having dessert anyway. It's not always to do with a unnecessary direct reward - in this example, if a child doesn't have a main meal, they can't have a dessert - not because they're being disobedient, but because they haven't eaten enough "healthy" food to balance out a dessert in their diet.


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Posted:Written by: Fine_Rabid_Dog

How old are ur kids? Cos ive never heard of young kids playing on mmorpgs (massively multiplyaer online games) before. But leverage like taht pretty much always works. Once u find the right one, they are but putty in ur hands *evil laugh*




10 and 6. The 4yold isnt on (yet). Incentive is a fine thing. We go to work to get money, not normally for other reasons. Food incentive is fine with me as well. Sure they should eat veges because its the right thing to do but many adults arent doing it let alone kids. If game time/sweets after gets my kids trying and eating new food and vegetables I am happy with that.
*Sym* If you and your kids eat all your interesting foods without a qualm hats off to you. Write a book on how you did it. Most parents have stories of kids eating habits. wink


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Posted:As the youngest child of 4, coming from a single parent home
, I learned at an early age that unless you really couldn't eat something because you hated it so much, you ate what was put in front of you or you went without. I think children are pandered to far too much now days when it comes to food. If they know by refusing to eat something they haven't tried before will lead to them being given pizza and chips or whatever their favorate food is, who can blame them for refusing to try. It only takes them throwing 2-3 tantrum that you ignored to stop them doing it. A normal healthy child can miss one meal without it harming them, so if they refuse to eat something don't offer them an alternative. Never once did my father force feed me, slap me or yell at me over eating or not eating food. He did it all by a system of rewards for good behaviour and ignoring us for tantrums.

I remember being given strange and unusual things and trying them just out of curiosity. To this day I remember the first time I ever saw or tasted a pomigranet with its bright red insides and all the seeds. My Dad made it feel like a treat and an adventure. It was the same with currys and chinese food. He just made us feel like it would be fun to try out.


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Posted:my little cousins are spoiled rotten. they really won't eat anything that doesn't look like hamburgers, hotdogs, or sandwiches. one time, they were visiting, and we had scallops. they were really good and tastey. my cousins thought so to, because they were told that they were "special hotdogs" and i wasn't to tell them that they weren't really hotdogs

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Posted:Skulduggery, kiss thank you! Thats just what my mum did with me as well. I soon started to eat everything because otherwise I wouldn't be eating anything. (Why else would anyone eat broccoli?!) I know a load of people whose parents did the same and they seem to be the healthiest/fit etc. This could be for completely different reasons though; I have no proof that it changes anything.

Also, I didn't have a coke before I was 12 and even then I didn't like it. I went though about 5 years of liking it but now I won't touch the stuff.

Gnorc, I don't have kids, so you have every right to tell me where to go. Maybe I'll come back when I do and agree with you. Who knows? But I do know that I wouldn't feel happy if I had to do things like that to make my kids do anything. I know that I'm very paranoid about being a Dad because of a load of stuff that went on when I was growing up. It's something that worries me a lot, so I admire you for being able to get as far as you have. I am in no way trying to say you are a bad mum!


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Posted:I was a sickly baby, and didn't really plump out until i was around 6 or 7 (look at me now! ubblol)
I never used to eat much of anything before that age, and my mum would say 'right your 5 years old try and eat 5 more spoonfuls' then it was 'would'nt you like to be 6?! try and eat a sixth spoonful' and then there was only a little bit left and i was usually bribed into eating the last lil bit.
I use the same technique when im babysitting, and it works 9 times outta 10. even if they dont like what there eating.


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Posted:See! Tis all about leverage. Im a kid, and I know, Leverage is the best way. Theres no fuss, (unless they are spoilt) and it shouldn't affect them in older life. My leverage was no TV, but looking back, I could of lived without it, but back then, I didn't do poi or staff.

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Posted:Written by: Sym_










Gnorc, I don't have kids, so you have every right to tell me where to go. Maybe I'll come back when I do and agree with you. Who knows? But I do know that I wouldn't feel happy if I had to do things like that to make my kids do anything. I know that I'm very paranoid about being a Dad because of a load of stuff that went on when I was growing up. It's something that worries me a lot, so I admire you for being able to get as far as you have. I am in no way trying to say you are a bad mum!





Damn I was hoping for some food and children stuff from you Sym and I wasnt trying to tell you where to go... wink hug hugOur kids have hugely different eating styles and we do tend to not be adventurous in what we feed them but we do get them to try new stuff. Sometimes they like it, sometimes they eat it covered in sauce, sometimes they swallow it without even tasting it. Kids are nature and nurture. Its not just about home or genetics.





Sym being a parent is a huge responsibilty and one of the most important things we will do, and it sounds like when/if you decide to explore that road you will have at least thought about parenting. Many of us just go..right today is a good day to get pregnant and are really unprepared for parenthood other than the roles we have learnt from our parents.

Being aware as you are of stuff that can happen can help you avoid it. Its an amazing adventure being a parent!! ubbrollsmile


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Posted:I didn't like much healthy food as a kid, and I still don't like those same things prepared as blandly as they were back then either!



I think a lot of people have much to learn about cooking healthy food so that it tastes good. Fruit/vegetables don't have to be sour, bitter or boring. I still to this day can't stand boiled vegetables (the only way of cooking them that many people know in this country), and i'm vegan now biggrin


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Posted:Ive always loved fruit and veg...maybe it comes with being a veggie and having amazing cooks as parents. They also had tactics to make me eat greens like telling me that sprouts were fairy cabbages, and that the fairies would be disappointed if i didnt eat them. Kinda cute looking back..

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Posted:My little boy is 3 and refuses to eat meat, he is quite afussy eater but loves his pureayed veggies
my little girl will eat anything even jellied eels!


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Posted:Written by: rikstik

My little boy is 3 and refuses to eat meat, he is quite afussy eater but loves his pureayed veggies
my little girl will eat anything even jellied eels!



Man, weird combination. Jellied eels *shudders*

Ive never heard of a three yr old not eating meat... eek


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Posted:the only time he will eat it is if it has been blended with veg , mabee its a texture thing, but he stiil seems reculctant to try it even when its purerayed

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Posted:I suppose taking him through a slaughter house wouldn't help any ^.^'
I went vegetarion for a week after a trip through one of those, but quickly forgot about it once I had fillet mingion infront of me biggrin
I always ate veggies for snacks instead of chips and pop like my friends did -.- Carrots and celery was a tasty snack for me biggrin
I would always try what was put in front of me, but if I didn't like it, I would find something else to eat instead of it, maybe a banana or something.
If you have problems getting your kid to eat zucchini, try blending it and putting it in muffins along with blueberries or something strong. They won't notice it as they chow down, then later you can tell them "So were teh zucchini muffins good?" and watch the suprised looks biggrin


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