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BTB Fishtailes.
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Written by: Chronofracture333
What exactly is the difference (for you!) between a frontside halo and a frontside lucero Mynci?
I ask because lucero's (to me!) are halos linked with half-fishtails at the shoulder/neck. So frontside luceros are frontside halos linked with half-fishtails at the shoulder/neck.
For me your sequence would be: Throat wrap - frontside forwards lucero's
since the first thing you have to do after the neck wrap is a half-fishtail at the shoulder to take it into the (FS)halo.
I'm still having problems with forwards luceros and reverse (FS)Luceros. Why is just reversing these moves so hard?
My frontside halo is I suppose half a jesus, I do the throat wrap, turn, then another beat on chest THEN either trap and reverse on the throat or as Rob pointed out to me monday a frontside lucero... it's all about which side of my neck the staff is on when I do the third turning chest beat. because the entry is always from my right when I try this..
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Yes, that makes total sense. It only becomes a FSide lucero if you do the second shoulder half-fistail. Thank you!
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Reverse B-side lucero : vertical neck propeller : reverse B-side lucero : vertical neck propeller : .....
Feels really nice.
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Just having a bit of a play and remembered that with the staff in a shoulder lock you can do horizontal fishtails by bending 90 degrees at the waist (forwards or backwards). Obviously needs a short staff or an off-center grip. The same is true of corkscrews with an elbow grip.
Both fit into steves really nicely.
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Baton goodness
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er. richee? can you rename this thread
'Staff stuff'
or something, cause it certainly isn't what it says on the tin.
and I STILL want an explanation of levels. cause i learnt that 3 years ago, but i don't feel like i'm gonna be 3 years above baton level 3...?
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Oops! sorry, perhaps should have said I got that video to illustrate the move you mentioned....
Written by: Bluecat
been thinking a little this morning about elbowangel luceros.
.... Are they not what you were thinking of?
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no, not them. i was thinking of elbow trap ones, that meg does (i think you said)
*stamps foot, throws toys out of pram* tell me about the levels!!!!!!!!
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they don't have to be a trap, thou it is certainly easier to learn them like that. They can be a proper half forward fishtail at the elbow.
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Need a cool name for this -
Spin it horizontally round on the back of your neck, let it roll down you back, onto your side, down your leg, then catch it between your foot and knee and flick it up just as you would from off the floor
AAARRRGGGHHH!!! My giant stick broke!!! In two!!! My stick broke in two!!! 
old hand
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i call that a waterfall roll or most of a full body roll. You can also do that one with a matrix entry. Easier than a matrix cos you dont need to get it right round onto your front just let it roll down your body.
Also if you roll it down your body to your front you can catch it with your crotch (lift your left leg if its coming from the right) and stall it to roll down your leg in the other direction.
There is also drews oooold skool move where you drop your shoulder and roll it down your body from over your shoulder (its in drew and staff, there will be a link around somewhere if you havnt seen it already)
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angel roll to btb fishtail transfer to other hand to angel roll etc...
btb fishtail pass continuously is also kinda zilly fun.
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isn't that a lynx?
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no, i dont believe it is oh knowlegable one
forward weave left hand - blind throw in a line behind the head.. catch in right hand reverse fishtail....... angleroll (better with multile beat) back to the left hand.
The words your looking for is "dam sexy"
or dam hard - i tried this lunch time and got 1 out of about 20
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old hand
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i thought a lynx was like a kick out with a turn?
ooh shiny meg gonna try that.
Damn you ultimate rolls! why do you taunt me so? i can reliably get down to halfway through the twister bit but it stubornly refuses to get onto my back and will occasionally hit me in the side of the head just to infuriate me further.
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the move that flame boy mentioned is a lynx, no?
awesome manoova strugz.
*wishes he had sticks in the office*
...........
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*Mynci's a bit slow*
just watched that video of the full-neck-anti-wrap that chrono did.
is the staff basically making a triangular circuit of the head on 3 points of contact? it didn't look to be a full beat on the chest...
A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.
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last night - the Origami
and some elbow fishtails
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dam you
everytime you see me you take something........ saying that - i do too, thanks for the pointer on butterfly, doubles, double jesus........ its hard to know what going from my point of view!
sweet evening tho - nice to join you in the gutter again mynci....
i wonder if simon made it home! if i was him, id still be in a lay-by
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Darn it... I should've come shouldn't I...
Mind you, got lots of editting done (I was good for a change)
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Written by: strugz
dam you
saying that - i do too, thanks for the pointer on butterfly, doubles, double jesus........ its hard to know what going from my point of view!
sweet evening tho - nice to join you in the gutter again mynci....
i wonder if simon made it home! if i was him, id still be in a lay-by
well I do try
bad bad man I think Simons OK terrible to think that guy is the navigator for a fire engine for his day job A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.
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Horizontal:
Palmspin & fishtale
Front & back forearm
Front & back arm
Shoulder & armpit
lightinng,
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old hand
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woooo! my first time ever! Got a ultimate roll. Wasnt very clean but i got it from hand to hand all the way round through the legs so im counting it
Also, cant remember if i posted this before but i was working on a vertical matrix again today and managed some progress. You need to turn at the right time so it kinda lifts the staff and then lean back to catch the staff on your shoulder / throat fairly quickly.
Mind you, having played with it a bit im not really sure of the value of the move apart from in its geeky sense. Its not that attractive and just kinda looks like a snes and a front side snes with wild arm propellors
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ok got butterfly weave last night with doubles.... not the retarded crossed arm version strugz showed me but the nice simple version that's on megs wonderful doubles tutorial thread
Also learned I cannot hoop for hell
A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.
Carpal \'Tunnel
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crossed arm version is sooo much more versitile
anyhow mynci - you still behind! i learnt that i could hoop for shite years ago!
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I can do a really nice clown act with a hoop oh and apologies for the text I sent you yesterday... dunc was wrong not you 
also did my first angel rolll to angel roll (turning)
and
fishtail (righthand) to halo to fishtail (left hand) to halo ...
should have practiced that a while ago... but I've been sloppy.
A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.
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Ok guys, just admit it.
The secret to Fishtails is superglue right?
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afraid not dude......... i found them easier with a heavier stick to start with...... becaue it moves slower and makes your arm less eratic, giving you time to understand what your doing, slowness is the key
and concentrate on reverse ones - they sit in your wrist better and are easier to control Just keep going, you willl get there, if not just do what 2bags does and use cellotape
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what.. that's not what you told me Strugz... all this time I've been using glue and peeling off when no one was looking.... A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.
veteran
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Going back a bit (not far, just up the page) - whats a lynx roll and whats an ultimate roll and is what I mentioned in my last post a waterfall roll?
AAARRRGGGHHH!!! My giant stick broke!!! In two!!! My stick broke in two!!!
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