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My advice would be to ground down the edges! Training with live blades is foolish. No offence intended!
My advice would be to ground down the edges! Training with live blades is foolish. No offence intended!
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This is a very bad idea. Even the most experienced twirlers make mistakes where the ends of the staffs hit them, if you had machete blades attached you could be seriously injured or worse.
Josh
This is a very bad idea. Even the most experienced twirlers make mistakes where the ends of the staffs hit them, if you had machete blades attached you could be seriously injured or worse.
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if you only know 6 moves id say put ur implement of death down and learn some contact staff its much more hardcore and less likely to cut your face off
if you only know 6 moves id say put ur implement of death down and learn some contact staff its much more hardcore and less likely to cut your face off
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if you only know 6 moves id say put ur implement of death down and learn some contact staff its much more hardcore and less likely to cut your face off
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............use a longer heavier staff....lose the blades..even in the martial arts live blades are only used once mastery is acheived......what your talking about is like...spinning spiked flail heads to learn poi.....
............use a longer heavier staff....lose the blades..even in the martial arts live blades are only used once mastery is acheived......what your talking about is like...spinning spiked flail heads to learn poi.....
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Yeah spinning with live blades doesn't make you cool or a hard man, because anyone can do it, but it makes you an idiot because everyone else can see how pointlessly dangerous it is, especially as it looks crap compared to spinning fire anyway. You don't get trails with blades, unless you're playing Soul Calibur.
I'm not calling you an idiot. Unless you're spinning with live blades.
Yeah spinning with live blades doesn't make you cool or a hard man, because anyone can do it, but it makes you an idiot because everyone else can see how pointlessly dangerous it is, especially as it looks crap compared to spinning fire anyway. You don't get trails with blades, unless you're playing Soul Calibur.
I'm not calling you an idiot. Unless you're spinning with live blades.
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erm, so while I agree that practicing with live blades is pointless, don't forget about fire knife dancing. Real blades, come to think of it, machete blades as well. I'm just saying remain respectful to that artform eh. But even fireknife practicioners(usually) work their way up from padded knives to real knives.
erm, so while I agree that practicing with live blades is pointless, don't forget about fire knife dancing. Real blades, come to think of it, machete blades as well. I'm just saying remain respectful to that artform eh. But even fireknife practicioners(usually) work their way up from padded knives to real knives.
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People can do what they like, but I believe that practicing with live blades is stupid. It's pointless and dangerous, and I don't think it should be encouraged in any form.
Sorry if that offends anyone but hey, if you disagree with me then my induvidual opinion shouldn't matter or upset you. I just think something so dangerous is pointless, because it doesn't have advantages over less dangerous forms. It looks the same as a dull blade, feels the same, but can seriously hurt you. I know people get a kick out of stuff like that but I think it's a stupid idea to risk damage to your body and to other people by playing with it.
People can do what they like, but I believe that practicing with live blades is stupid. It's pointless and dangerous, and I don't think it should be encouraged in any form.
Sorry if that offends anyone but hey, if you disagree with me then my induvidual opinion shouldn't matter or upset you. I just think something so dangerous is pointless, because it doesn't have advantages over less dangerous forms. It looks the same as a dull blade, feels the same, but can seriously hurt you. I know people get a kick out of stuff like that but I think it's a stupid idea to risk damage to your body and to other people by playing with it.
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i agree with everyone else
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I don't even disagree with you as far as practice, but since when does this make sense? So if you call someone an idiot, then they shouldn't be offended...because your opinion shouldn't matter..or upset them..mmk. That comes across to me as 'I'm an idiot, don't listen to what I say'. Fair enough..
Me I just have alot of respect for what fire knife spinners do, from meeting a few to seeing a competition. Big difference from some yahoo strapping blades on the end of a stick, this is an artform that has existed for right around fifty years. Am I going to repect that, even though I personally don't agree with mixing live steel and fire, yep.
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Sorry if that offends anyone but hey, if you disagree with me then my induvidual opinion shouldn't matter or upset you.
I don't even disagree with you as far as practice, but since when does this make sense? So if you call someone an idiot, then they shouldn't be offended...because your opinion shouldn't matter..or upset them..mmk. That comes across to me as 'I'm an idiot, don't listen to what I say'. Fair enough..
Me I just have alot of respect for what fire knife spinners do, from meeting a few to seeing a competition. Big difference from some yahoo strapping blades on the end of a stick, this is an artform that has existed for right around fifty years. Am I going to repect that, even though I personally don't agree with mixing live steel and fire, yep.
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Well if you choose to take it that way, fine, but what I was trying to express is that if spinning live blades is something which appeals to you then my calling you an idiot is probably not going to upset you, as you are clearly beyond people calling you names if you're willing to spin a live blade around your head.
If you disagree with my opinion after reading my post then you're not going to stop doing it, thereby not observing the fact that I find it idiotic, and therefore not concerned that I think you're an idiot. Hence my opinion hasn't upset you enough to reconsider the action I deem idiotic, and it clearly doesn't matter that I think so as you're still spinning live blades.
If, however, you read my post and think "Man, this is obviously something pretty strong to evoke such an emotive reaction, perhaps I should think about it a bit" then job done on my part.
Well if you choose to take it that way, fine, but what I was trying to express is that if spinning live blades is something which appeals to you then my calling you an idiot is probably not going to upset you, as you are clearly beyond people calling you names if you're willing to spin a live blade around your head.
If you disagree with my opinion after reading my post then you're not going to stop doing it, thereby not observing the fact that I find it idiotic, and therefore not concerned that I think you're an idiot. Hence my opinion hasn't upset you enough to reconsider the action I deem idiotic, and it clearly doesn't matter that I think so as you're still spinning live blades.
If, however, you read my post and think "Man, this is obviously something pretty strong to evoke such an emotive reaction, perhaps I should think about it a bit" then job done on my part.
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all of u can die and when im making money for what i can do then i can look back and say with a big smile "[censored] YOU"
all of u can die and when im making money for what i can do then i can look back and say with a big smile "[censored] YOU"
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yes thats right everyone dies such is the nature of life
i did write u a long reply on moves u could learn relatively "safely" and the dangers etc but then i deleted it as such rude response doesnt deserve a useful answer
yes thats right everyone dies such is the nature of life
i did write u a long reply on moves u could learn relatively "safely" and the dangers etc but then i deleted it as such rude response doesnt deserve a useful answer
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Mate! Some of us just didn't want you to hurt yourself!!!
Quite honestly, this is the best place you could have come to. If you had of gotten over your ego and wondered why it might not be the best idea to spin live blades, you might have learnt something.
I for one have known people who've dedicated their lives to such things as spinning bladed weapons and still can't make a living from it. So if you can.... please do and don't get hurt.
And when you're so rich! Please buy me a drink
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Mate! Some of us just didn't want you to hurt yourself!!!
Quite honestly, this is the best place you could have come to. If you had of gotten over your ego and wondered why it might not be the best idea to spin live blades, you might have learnt something.
I for one have known people who've dedicated their lives to such things as spinning bladed weapons and still can't make a living from it. So if you can.... please do and don't get hurt.
And when you're so rich! Please buy me a drink
Cheers!
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So are we talking about practicing with live blades or performing with live blades?(live meaning sharp) because while I could understand using live blades in a performance, for some sort of dramatic effect. I cannot see the point of practicing witth a live blade on anywhere near the consistant basis required to be good at the art. While I hear the martial arts argument like it has been pointed out you master a weapon before you sharpen the blade. and as for any thought differently,, you are attempting to learn a form of performance art, not training to be some feudel warrior. I would definately practice with dull/flat blades (which could still seriously hurt you, so be careful) AFTER you have mastered it with no blades, and then if you so choose after you have recieved the number of headblows and accidental smacks to the face from the END of your staff it requires to learn any serious staff form, to perform with blades, I would then assume you truelly understand the risks involved with using live blades in any form of spinning context. I am not the definative expert on this but I would think anyone who has been spinning staff/poi/meteors/bolo/etc.. for any amount of time can tell you you hit yourself ALOT while you are learning and alot less when you get good but only if you stop learning and stick to what you know(eg: performance), however practice is a time to learn new moves, transitions, etc... and while you are learning/practicing you will still hit yourself. think about it do you want to smack yourself in the face with a live blade? or in the neck, shoulder, back, leg, arm, or hand? I can't really think about anywhere in particular I want to get smacked with a blade traveling (insert top speed here 65mph?? I think or somewhere close depending on the length of the staff).
if you choose to learn with knives remember that saying...
"master the weapon before you sharpen the blade"
So are we talking about practicing with live blades or performing with live blades?(live meaning sharp) because while I could understand using live blades in a performance, for some sort of dramatic effect. I cannot see the point of practicing witth a live blade on anywhere near the consistant basis required to be good at the art. While I hear the martial arts argument like it has been pointed out you master a weapon before you sharpen the blade. and as for any thought differently,, you are attempting to learn a form of performance art, not training to be some feudel warrior. I would definately practice with dull/flat blades (which could still seriously hurt you, so be careful) AFTER you have mastered it with no blades, and then if you so choose after you have recieved the number of headblows and accidental smacks to the face from the END of your staff it requires to learn any serious staff form, to perform with blades, I would then assume you truelly understand the risks involved with using live blades in any form of spinning context. I am not the definative expert on this but I would think anyone who has been spinning staff/poi/meteors/bolo/etc.. for any amount of time can tell you you hit yourself ALOT while you are learning and alot less when you get good but only if you stop learning and stick to what you know(eg: performance), however practice is a time to learn new moves, transitions, etc... and while you are learning/practicing you will still hit yourself. think about it do you want to smack yourself in the face with a live blade? or in the neck, shoulder, back, leg, arm, or hand? I can't really think about anywhere in particular I want to get smacked with a blade traveling (insert top speed here 65mph?? I think or somewhere close depending on the length of the staff).
if you choose to learn with knives remember that saying...
"master the weapon before you sharpen the blade"
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The small fire performance troupe that I work with have over the last few months finally gotten around to looking at fight sequences with six foot bow staff and 6 foot fire staff, we're all 'experienced' staff'ists, and where we're heading with this is towards 'partially' choreographed fire staff martial arts routine, and then possibly to fully un-choreographed martial arts sequenecs, it really depends how far we're going to take this particular performance routine,
We've been looking into Boken, with a logical progression to fire sword martial arts again firstly heavily choreogrpahed then less choreographed, the general consensus was to look at using samuri swords converted to fire, the question was raised about live versus non live blades, and the general consensus was who in the audience would be able to tell if you were using live or dull blades, so why exactly would you want to add the extra hazard of working with something that will detatch body parts.
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The small fire performance troupe that I work with have over the last few months finally gotten around to looking at fight sequences with six foot bow staff and 6 foot fire staff, we're all 'experienced' staff'ists, and where we're heading with this is towards 'partially' choreographed fire staff martial arts routine, and then possibly to fully un-choreographed martial arts sequenecs, it really depends how far we're going to take this particular performance routine,
We've been looking into Boken, with a logical progression to fire sword martial arts again firstly heavily choreogrpahed then less choreographed, the general consensus was to look at using samuri swords converted to fire, the question was raised about live versus non live blades, and the general consensus was who in the audience would be able to tell if you were using live or dull blades, so why exactly would you want to add the extra hazard of working with something that will detatch body parts.
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Well, I think there was a lesson in that for all of us
I think the most salient point I got out of it was that what difference does it make if youre using a dull blade, unless you are actually chopping stuff up?
Josh
Well, I think there was a lesson in that for all of us
I think the most salient point I got out of it was that what difference does it make if youre using a dull blade, unless you are actually chopping stuff up?
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well... as a fireknife dancer, i guess i'll comment,
in the world fireknife championships, they use live blades. Many performers come on stage with branches or leaves and cut them with there fireknife to demonstrate the sharpness to the crowd. Yes, danger always adds to a show, but that hardly compares to the crowds enjoyment of their skill level and technique.
If you're trying to base an act on the danger that you're spinning live blades, sorry, that's nothing original, many people already do it, and these people practices for years first with padded practice equipment.
Cheers musashii for not forgetting about fireknife dancers!
well... as a fireknife dancer, i guess i'll comment,
in the world fireknife championships, they use live blades. Many performers come on stage with branches or leaves and cut them with there fireknife to demonstrate the sharpness to the crowd. Yes, danger always adds to a show, but that hardly compares to the crowds enjoyment of their skill level and technique.
If you're trying to base an act on the danger that you're spinning live blades, sorry, that's nothing original, many people already do it, and these people practices for years first with padded practice equipment.
Cheers musashii for not forgetting about fireknife dancers!
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Thanks Reign of Fire,
Coming from a family of fireknife dancers, and as the mom of three boys, ages 12, 14, and 16, who all perform the Samoan firkenife dance and who all learned from their "Papa", the Father of the Fireknife dance, Parmount Chief Letuli, I would like to say a few things here.
1) The fireknife dance - with blades, is a cultural dance - in our competition a knife without blades is disqualified.
2) My adoptive dad, Letuli, made quite a good living from this dance - he invented it and performed in a lot of movies, shows, and reviews.
3) In the Samoan culture, boys begin learning this dance at an early age - as young as 4. By the time they use a real blade, they are masters.
4) The Samoan Knife dance originated from the Samoan "Ailao" - a warriors dance in which the warrior danced with his weapon.
5) Samoan kids are cutting bush with these knives as soon as they can swing them - they grow up with a machete in their hand.
Dancing with real blades is stupid if you are doing so without the respect and knowledge of the art, but the Samoan view is that a warrior dances with the same weapon he would use on the battlefield. My youngest son is a world champion, and my oldest, at age 15, is an instructor - he is one of the top three junior fireknife dancers in the world. The worst injuries they have had have been from the fire rather than fron the blade.
This is not a hobby to play with - it is an art which is part and parcel of a 2000 year old culture and part of the Samoan identity and gift to the world.
Soifua,
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Thanks Reign of Fire,
Coming from a family of fireknife dancers, and as the mom of three boys, ages 12, 14, and 16, who all perform the Samoan firkenife dance and who all learned from their "Papa", the Father of the Fireknife dance, Parmount Chief Letuli, I would like to say a few things here.
1) The fireknife dance - with blades, is a cultural dance - in our competition a knife without blades is disqualified.
2) My adoptive dad, Letuli, made quite a good living from this dance - he invented it and performed in a lot of movies, shows, and reviews.
3) In the Samoan culture, boys begin learning this dance at an early age - as young as 4. By the time they use a real blade, they are masters.
4) The Samoan Knife dance originated from the Samoan "Ailao" - a warriors dance in which the warrior danced with his weapon.
5) Samoan kids are cutting bush with these knives as soon as they can swing them - they grow up with a machete in their hand.
Dancing with real blades is stupid if you are doing so without the respect and knowledge of the art, but the Samoan view is that a warrior dances with the same weapon he would use on the battlefield. My youngest son is a world champion, and my oldest, at age 15, is an instructor - he is one of the top three junior fireknife dancers in the world. The worst injuries they have had have been from the fire rather than fron the blade.
This is not a hobby to play with - it is an art which is part and parcel of a 2000 year old culture and part of the Samoan identity and gift to the world.
Soifua,
Teejay
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TeeJay: Thanks for the input!
TeeJay: Thanks for the input!
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Haha if i had blades on my poi or staff.........yeah u get the picture
Haha if i had blades on my poi or staff.........yeah u get the picture
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If you're still reading this thread Phreak Armada - I suggest you start slowly. Blades arent a very good idea unless you *really* know what you're doing. It would look impressive if it were soul calibur, but...
Fireknife looks cool, but you need to be really good at it before you use real ones. Padded knives should be the go for now
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If you're still reading this thread Phreak Armada - I suggest you start slowly. Blades arent a very good idea unless you *really* know what you're doing. It would look impressive if it were soul calibur, but...
Fireknife looks cool, but you need to be really good at it before you use real ones. Padded knives should be the go for now
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fair enough if it's part of your culture
for the rest of us, i can't shake the feeling that a desire to play with sharp things is just another testosterone-fuelled urge, along with playing hack 'n' slash computer games and improbably-breasted pin-ups. except it's a) stupidly dangerous, b) not that interesting to look at, and c) very liable to get you arrested
juggling knives looks impressive, but i don't know anyone who thinks it's worth juggling with proper sharp knives. you can do sufficient damage with practice blades.
fair enough if it's part of your culture
for the rest of us, i can't shake the feeling that a desire to play with sharp things is just another testosterone-fuelled urge, along with playing hack 'n' slash computer games and improbably-breasted pin-ups. except it's a) stupidly dangerous, b) not that interesting to look at, and c) very liable to get you arrested
juggling knives looks impressive, but i don't know anyone who thinks it's worth juggling with proper sharp knives. you can do sufficient damage with practice blades.
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ouch?
Cum on, not every guy wants to mess around with sharp things (tho i have got pretty good at the old knife in between the fingures routine) and..well..okay, i have pin-ups... and going on with computer games? Why bother? Not everyone is into soul calibur and tenchu... (yay for soul calibur)
Its not just testosterone (well...the pin ups are).. its how fun something is and showing off )
anyways, bladed staff is probs a bad idea, tho most of us knew that aready...
anywho
ouch?
Cum on, not every guy wants to mess around with sharp things (tho i have got pretty good at the old knife in between the fingures routine) and..well..okay, i have pin-ups... and going on with computer games? Why bother? Not everyone is into soul calibur and tenchu... (yay for soul calibur)
Its not just testosterone (well...the pin ups are).. its how fun something is and showing off
)anyways, bladed staff is probs a bad idea, tho most of us knew that aready...
anywho
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'Its not just testosterone (well...the pin ups are).. its how fun something is and showing off'
in that case, isn't a bit of a coincidence that you hardly *ever* see girls saying 'hang on lads, why don't we take this Enormous Pole and sellotape carving knives to the ends?'?
i think that much of the showing off is motivated by testosterone. come on; most men of most ages want to look hard. hence the appeal of spinning sharp objects.
so, testosterone, like i said.
'Its not just testosterone (well...the pin ups are).. its how fun something is and showing off'
in that case, isn't a bit of a coincidence that you hardly *ever* see girls saying 'hang on lads, why don't we take this Enormous Pole and sellotape carving knives to the ends?'?
i think that much of the showing off is motivated by testosterone. come on; most men of most ages want to look hard. hence the appeal of spinning sharp objects.
so, testosterone, like i said.
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What's wrong with wanting to play with sharp objects........That's why I got in to foil and sabre (even though they're not sharp, but it's the thought that counts).
What's wrong with wanting to play with sharp objects........That's why I got in to foil and sabre (even though they're not sharp, but it's the thought that counts).
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nothing wrong with wanting to play with sharp objects; that's also how I got into foil and sabre
still think it's largely due to testosterone
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nothing wrong with wanting to play with sharp objects; that's also how I got into foil and sabre
still think it's largely due to testosterone
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my mum blames just about everything i do on testosterone.. but hey, im not going to argue with a psycologist...
my mum blames just about everything i do on testosterone.. but hey, im not going to argue with a psycologist...
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