i wouldn't disagree with you.
i saw rahzel back in 1997 @ the astoria when he was still with the roots. saw him in 99 @ glastonbury after he'd gone solo and his show sucked - hardly any beatbox and i'm not a fan of his mc'in at all.
my advice is work up slow.
listening to dudes like rah, scratch, kenny mohammed and killa kela - the home-grown reigning king and dare i say it, the best beatboxer around right now (imho) - will just blow your mind.
they do crazy stacking shit that involves using a set of three or four techniques *at once*.
get some slick rick and doug e. fresh and learn every beat you can find.
don't worry about mimiking sound directly, just make sure that for each separate 'sound' (bass drum, snare, hi-hat etc) doug e. makes, you have an equivalent distinctive sound. beatboxing is a bit like a singing voice - everyone's sounds different.
play the tunes and practice along with them.
when you have a couple down, use the pause button and add your own breaks and fills.
if you get that far, you'll know what to do next
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