um.. excuse me miss but i think your dress is on fire. i really want to see a vid of this, if you stop spinning does the dress just fall and burn you or are their supports underneath to prevent that.
um.. excuse me miss but i think your dress is on fire. i really want to see a vid of this, if you stop spinning does the dress just fall and burn you or are their supports underneath to prevent that.
quite amazing must be awesome to watch, thanks for sharing... I side these questions - would hope that the skirt is from fire retardant fabric...
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I'd have hoped you were aware of the sacredness that whirling has to a lot of people (that I know)... the ambiance of the video doesn't quite reflect that...
Originally Posted By: TJF
When she steps out it looks... Inviting to say the least.
Don't get me wrong please, I like naked skin... no... I worship every inch of naked female skin... I'm not a traditionalist... and women DO perform whirling even in Islam... and whirling itself is not necessarily a strong tradition within their faith... yet...
When people from the East - or from a traditional background - look at the West, quite often they take offense by the way that Westerners use sacred rituals and turn them into something... profane.
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#902363 - 30/12/0912:35 AMRe: fire dervish skirt
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Tsk Tsk! I wasn't talking about flesh. The skirt all wrapped up in a strange circle flower thing. Looks comfy to crawl into for the Big Zs. You are terrible at times FT
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#904985 - 26/01/1001:48 PMRe: fire dervish skirt
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brenonfire413
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That is the most amazing article of clothing in the history of human existence, EVER!
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#905504 - 31/01/1004:02 AMRe: fire dervish skirt
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brenonfire413
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Originally Posted By: FireTom
When people from the East - or from a traditional background - look at the West, quite often they take offense by the way that Westerners use sacred rituals and turn them into something... profane.
Mmmm yes, it's an American tradition to screw up other cultures. We call it "fun".
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Well, to add onto the fire of the discussion, isn't it a little of the same that happened to poi? Somebody to an old tradition out of it original context - and sat fire to it - and made it into something new!
I think it's very beautiful and especially creatively made! Respect to Lara!
#906586 - 12/02/1011:16 PMRe: fire dervish skirt
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Sister Eleven
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Loc: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted By: brenonfire413
Mmmm yes, it's an American tradition to screw up other cultures. We call it "fun".
Hey, the British and the Spanish have much more practice at this than we do.
Though I think it's silly to say that creating a performance based on aspects of another culture's practice (whatever its ethical standing) screws up that culture/practice. The existence of a Dervish-like fire skirt in no way alters anything about existing Dervish practices. Colonization of the Americas, or European colonialism in Asia and Africa, and the manner in which these screwed up cultures, should be remembered to keep the creation of a fiery whirling skirt in perspective.
Sis - I side you, I never said that this performance "screws up" that culture/practice and I agree that the fire derwish skirt itself is not pulling down the Sufi tradition.
But what I wuold emphasize is to carefully choose the context in which this performance takes place.
Further I'd like to raise awareness. Be prepared for the case in which you have to face criticism from someone who is emotionally attached to such culture/ practice. Have some answers ready.
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Same Here!!!! This fire skirt looks amazing, it's a shame that all yo can do with it is spin, could look real cool doing high kicks or anything like that.
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