#401601 - 12/08/05 01:29 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: hexagonic]
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big and good and broken
Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
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4 balls, 3:2 but with the opposite hands - so i can swithch which hand is doing the 3 and which is doing the 2 on the sync throw  now for some siteswaps   this stuff is way cool...  cole. x
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#401602 - 12/08/05 04:03 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: coleman]
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Stalking amidst the desert, carrying an oversized scalpel...
Registered: 01/08/05
Loc: Huddersfield + Hull Uni... UK.
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I cannot crack 534 mm.  Any hints?
... and what's this 3:2 base pattern thingy?
Edited by Lemonkey (12/08/05 04:04 AM)
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#401603 - 12/08/05 04:50 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: Lemonkey]
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big and good and broken
Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
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534 mills i can't do yet, sorry. 633 mills is starting to seem doable but only just. so, 3:2 then... polyrhythmic juggling throws are not made all syncronous nor are they all made asyncronous. instead, one hand makes 1.5 times more throws than the other hand. so you get 3 throws made in the same space of time as 2 throws form the other hand. imagine juggling 5 balls doing 3 in one hand, 2 in the other hand and juggle them to the same height - that's 3:2. but i'm just doing it with 4 balls at the moment. cole. x
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#401604 - 12/08/05 05:24 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: coleman]
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Miss Whippy
Registered: 03/06/03
Loc: Cornwall & Oxford
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cole, you are sick, sick i say! I've hit a bit of a rut in my juggling at the moment. Can somebody give me 3 (fairly simple but pretty) patterns, with descriptions, that i can learn for Play, or possibly Bristol You have your mission jugglers! 
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#401606 - 12/08/05 11:59 PM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: Lemonkey]
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Me
Registered: 30/08/03
Loc: London/Bristol
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3:2 That's bizzar so if you start with a sync thrown then right hand throw on every beat left hand on every 2/3 of a beat. humm so 4b fountain would be (8/3,4)
alternativly if you start async you have to start use 1/6ths in siteswaps. strange strange stuff.
so have you got other any nice patterns involeing swaping hands
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Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all C  t
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#401607 - 13/08/05 12:15 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: T&B]
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big and good and broken
Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
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not quite sure what the first bit means tim... you have to use 1/6ths to represent a 3:2 rhythm like so: Code:
x - x - x -
x - - x - -
4:3 uses 1/12ths: Code:
x - - x - - x - - x - -
x - - - x - - - x - - -
and so on. i'm working on my first couple of tricks but i have to learn it all in beatmap first cos the (sync) siteswap gets very big and confusing very quickly. i think there may have to be an impromptu polyrhythm juggling mini workshop at play next weekend... cole. x
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#401608 - 13/08/05 12:23 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: coleman]
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addict
Registered: 22/06/04
Loc: Oxford, UK
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I kind of see where you're going with this, Cole. I think I've done some stuff like it, but I've never formalised it. I'll have to see what you've come up with at Play... Interesting stuff!
I haven't learned any new juggling things. I've been working on 5, nothing else. I'm still rubbish.
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#401609 - 13/08/05 12:26 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: coleman]
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big and good and broken
Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
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here's a 3:2 pattern with crossing throws converted to sync ss for you tim:
(cx,8x)(0,0)(8,0)(0,c)(8,0)(0,0)
it doesn't mirror as far as i can tell (not sure why yet - i guess its an excited state from the base pattern).
look forward to having a play with all this at play...
4:3 is a righteous headf*ck!
cole. x
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#401610 - 13/08/05 04:58 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: coleman]
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Stalking amidst the desert, carrying an oversized scalpel...
Registered: 01/08/05
Loc: Huddersfield + Hull Uni... UK.
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Still confused. I'll stick to the timings I'm used too, at the moment...
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#401611 - 14/08/05 08:09 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: Lemonkey]
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Me
Registered: 30/08/03
Loc: London/Bristol
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Damm leaveing my juggling ball at someone house really want too try these out and think trying it with clubs wouldn't be so sucessful (need a graemlin diving for cover as clubs come crashing down on his head)
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#401613 - 19/08/05 01:44 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: spiralx]
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addict
Registered: 22/06/04
Loc: Oxford, UK
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I got 3 rounds of 531. It's not very pretty yet though...
My 5 ball is *so close* to being good.
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#401615 - 19/08/05 04:12 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: Lemonkey]
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veteran
Registered: 01/05/02
Loc: London, UK
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Well according to this page http://www.twjc.co.uk/tut058.htmlthe reverse mill's is almost exactly the same as the standard with a single throw going in a different place. Which sort of makes sense if you bend your head round it  531 continues to elude me. Think I need to work on my showers to get the 1s and 5s tighter.
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#401617 - 19/08/05 06:18 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: Lemonkey]
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lurking...
Registered: 03/06/04
Loc: Faversham UK
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reverse mills is evil, especially since there's three different ways of doing it, apparently, there just ain't no point trying to read aboot it in me humble opinion, this trick needs to be seen to be learned (unless your soopa cleva)
531 is a wicked trick, try working on your 522s, try and get that 5 really nice and high, then just do the 31 underneath. If you keep at going from it from 522 then try it from 3 it makes more sense (did any of that make sense?)
another one to try is 501, its cheeky but it will help to get a solid 531. speak to you favourite siteswappy thingy magiger about that one and you'll see.
another fun one is 5511,
my 5 balls been the beez knees as of late, i don't count or time myself; i prefer to gauge my patterns by feel, and its startin to feel super nice
learned a lovely 23[34] mills (4 ball mux. burkes/takeouts), still dreaming about 552 and 642 mills's, they would be sweet, 4 ball mills is coming along nicely.
hope everyone has fun at play, can't make it unfortunatly, hope to see some peeps at bristol:-)
Edited by Megafish (19/08/05 06:22 AM)
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#401619 - 19/08/05 10:09 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: spiralx]
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Stalking amidst the desert, carrying an oversized scalpel...
Registered: 01/08/05
Loc: Huddersfield + Hull Uni... UK.
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From that tutorial, I THINK I have Rubensteins, but I need someone better than me to verify. http://www.bogleg.com/records/tricks.php?submit=View&trick=169Evil! Anyway - today, I've been practising 5 ball reverse cascade, it's coming along nicely.
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#401620 - 20/08/05 12:34 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: Lemonkey]
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Macaque of all trades
Registered: 27/04/05
Loc: wombling free...
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you should just be doing mills's mess but the 2 over the top throws do an orbit first....p.s is your name Le-monkey or lemon-key???? I keep thinking ooo a french monkey    you at play??? I really need to learn siteswap..... Anyone here not practicing 5 balls...(I feel it just looks a bit messy but will no doubt change my mind)
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#401621 - 20/08/05 05:15 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: Mynci]
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Stalking amidst the desert, carrying an oversized scalpel...
Registered: 01/08/05
Loc: Huddersfield + Hull Uni... UK.
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Le-monkey. I was named it last year at uni by loves_the_circus. ... and I'm not going to play. I'm too tight-fisted to pay for the entrance fee thingy, and the train ticket down there. Maybe next year. Today - I did one round of the siteswap 645(55555555 etc)! 5ball SS's are too hard.
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#401622 - 22/08/05 10:01 PM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: Lemonkey]
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big and good and broken
Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
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at play i did some juggling 5 balls: i broke my 5 ball inverse cascade record (30 catches). i juggled two rounds of 744 out of and back into the cascade a whole bunch of times  645 feels like its going to run really soon now - just need left to right to work better and its on! and i pulled off 94444 out of a cascade to a clean collect - twice my half showers still suck and (6x,4) is harder than it used to be. 4 balls: 615 got nice and solid on saturday. 74414 works now - 75314 next 741 is still a bitch but is gradually improving as 744 gets better. cole. x
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#401623 - 22/08/05 10:30 PM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: coleman]
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Stalking amidst the desert, carrying an oversized scalpel...
Registered: 01/08/05
Loc: Huddersfield + Hull Uni... UK.
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Good job. I broke my 5ball reverse cascade record too. Approx 50 catches the other day... then every other time I tried I failed to get even 30. I wish I could do 744, it's a great looking trick.
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#401624 - 23/08/05 12:12 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: Lemonkey]
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Miss Whippy
Registered: 03/06/03
Loc: Cornwall & Oxford
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After Play i learnt some 423 variations from the lovely Coleman and learnt the 3 club cascade from the lovely 2bags twas a good weekend all round methinks.
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#401626 - 23/08/05 03:48 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: Lemonkey]
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1 + 1 = 3
Registered: 31/08/04
Loc: Bristol UK
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Told you to come to PLAY!!!
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#401627 - 23/08/05 03:54 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: animatEd]
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Stalking amidst the desert, carrying an oversized scalpel...
Registered: 01/08/05
Loc: Huddersfield + Hull Uni... UK.
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Ahh well. Maybe next year.
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#401628 - 23/08/05 04:10 AM
Re: The official HOP juggling "I just learnt a new move" thread
[Re: Lemonkey]
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big and good and broken
Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
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lemonkey, most siteswaps are boring! 423 variations using different throw and catch types are great and are pretty much endless because of the amount of different 4's, 2's and 3's you can introduce. my 423 workshop is generally about how to make siteswaps interesting but as most people in the workshop weren't siteswap geeks, i stuck to 423 for the whole thing rather than going off on one at the end with all my favourite siteswap variations 441 with clubs is great - absolute classic club trick is 441 with the 1 as a behind the back pass cole. x
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