SPINNING & GEOMETRIE...Now in English!!!

As promised, here is the english version. I'm really sorry for having taken so much time...
but you know what a student's life is!;)
http://cjoint.com/?jwwHetHyMP

I'll present a workshop based on this article at the EJC.
Do not hesitate to ask questions and send remarks!!!

Cyrille

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Hi everybody!

I would like to present you a few research of mine. I used this article to prepare my work shop at BCC conv'3 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> It is only written in french for the moment, but I hope you will understant it just by seeing the drawings.

<a href="http://cjoint.com/data/ezoYfmepSH_WORK_SHOP_PARIS.doc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://cjoint.com/data/ezoYfmepSH_WORK_SHOP_PARIS.doc</a>

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I think i get most of it - except the double square...

I don't see how you've got the poi/staff head following the hand so both form a square? Wouldn't your hand have to make an anti-spin 4-petal flower for the staff heads to make a square?

Nice though

Hmmm.... This will be useful to try.

Thanks.

This is all beautiful Cyrelle!
I think I will have to have Ima translate the text to me when he gets to Fire Drums.

-Alien Jon

Goodness, that means I can stand right next to you and litsen and act like I understand =)

Wonderful work Cyrille!

printed and stuck on my wall

WOW...Have these been done!? or are they theoretical? Amazing : ) unlock Poi's True potential! Well done Man! Well Done indeed!

Looks almost amazing, but definitely
need a translation.

CYRILLE!

:R

beautiful

i won't need to write up my point isolation theory now

AND i understood most of the words (the joy of having a parent in france )

Great. My head went; yes, yes, got it, ok, riiiight, nope you've now entirely lost me. Been ages since somethings done that, thanks.

But please could someone translate it? my french is poor at best and id love to read it all.

I'm more of a diagram kinda guy anyway...

Translation unnecessary...

Practice? Another matter entirely...

rob, ima, olive? Can somebody please do a translation?

iv asking a friend on dmp to translate... silly bugger is finishing his college dissertation at the moment though...wasters in college

I like the way document describe pattern symmetry,
especially the 'line symmetry'.

I meen the difference, between shape beeing horiz-
ontal or vertical and pattern init, beeing horizontal
or vertical as well.

Example can be, vertical circle with vertical line
of (pattern) symetry and vertical circle with hor-
izontal symetry.

I meen this is especially interesting in case of asym-
etric shape by point.

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Am I right Cirille?

:R

Yes you are right Richee!

To all, I would like to excuse me to not care about this thread. To do that, I've done a new video where you could see some forms executed with different configuration of rotation.
http://www.homeofpoi.com/ubbthreads/show...5/o/all/fpart/1

Here is the french version of the pdf:
http://ftp.flood.fr/ktr/WORKSHOP_PARIS.pdf

I can now translate a sentense very general that I say:

p6:

"On all the conceivable geometrical forms, the present effects of symmetry (point or axes) can be exploited with the corresponding configurations of rotation."

Tell me want do you think about this very general sentence.

Cyrille

Richee,

I've the impression that we didn't understood together...

In this general sentense, I'm not talking about patterns, but about GEOMETRIC FORMS (lines, triangles, squares ...).

Let us see an example:
If for exemple you want to play with your hand on a vertical line, I say that you could play on this form by using the symmetric effects who are present on this form.

A vertical line has a point of central symmetry and two axe of symmetry (verticable and horizontable).

By making correspond these symetries in the corresponding rotations of the poi:

*You could play on the vertical line with poi rotating in the same way at the same time (hands are here also jointed and move at the same time). I would say here that there is a "double" effect because the two poi do the same think at the same time.
*Poi could also rotate in opposite (hands are also jointed and move at the same time). we are playing in fact here, we the verticable axe of symetry).
*Poi could rotate in opposite split time(hand begin at the opposite point of the line, using in fact the horizontable axe of symmetry).
*You can also use the point of symmetry and have your poi rotating in same direction in split time (hand no jointed, doing the line in split time too, begining at the opposite point of the line).


So this setense do not generelize all the patterns we can do (!!!), but only the moves who exploit geometric forms and the symmetry on these geometric forms.

I thinks the words I'm using are not universal in poi discussion.

I just think the basic geometry (just forms and symmetry) could be beneficialy used in poi practice. That is the principal point I explain in the article. By understanding just the sentense I've traducted, I think you could understand also the methode I wanted to explain in the article. Next time in work shop, It will be a pleasure for me to explain again what I wanted to share with you.

But please,
Just play and have pleasure.

Cyrille

Yep!

English version is now avalaible!

For free!!!

XoXo

Merci beaucoup Cyrille,
Je parle en francais un peu

OK you can stop laughing now, thank you very much for the amazing discertation. Some of the concepts are mind scambling!!! I will be wrapping my poi around these for months (probably years)to come!!

Thank you again, and very nice work
Ben