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#842970 - 23/09/07 06:11 AM S (Curved) Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated
FireTom Offline
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Registered: 20/09/03
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Anyone knows how to play "S"-curved staff?

... you can't be everywhere, Banyan - unfortunately ...

These staffs intrigue(d) me since I have seen you play them in KPG...

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#842971 - 23/09/07 07:11 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: FireTom]
UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot Offline
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Registered: 17/04/02
Loc: Whales
Strugz, and Michael Moschen should be able to help you there



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#842972 - 23/09/07 12:14 PM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
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Cant say I've seen that before, but its very very cool... I think I'm going to make myself a pair right now...
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#842973 - 23/09/07 02:39 PM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: drvariety]
the_mods_stole_my_name Offline
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Registered: 09/05/06
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was it not strugz who had a set of these at PLAY festival? they'r confusing, but look really effective!
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#842974 - 23/09/07 07:14 PM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: the_mods_stole_my_name]
FireTom Offline
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They appear incredibly nice to me, but handling is

It seems that even the easiest staff moves become quite tricky, when applied to S-taffs. Then again, there are other moves that would not look at all when done with regular ones - the shape makes them look fantastic.

A bit "zenish", no?

Thanks for the link UCOF, I haven't had the time to watch the vid yet...


Edited by FireTom (23/09/07 07:20 PM)
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#842975 - 24/09/07 07:03 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: the_mods_stole_my_name]
simta Offline
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Registered: 11/04/06
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 Written by: the_mods_stole_my_name


was it not strugz who had a set of these at PLAY festival? they'r confusing, but look really effective!



yes it was, very cool to play with but confusing

isolations look very cool with them as does antispin
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#842976 - 24/09/07 11:37 PM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: simta]
Mynci Offline
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Registered: 27/04/05
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I pl;ayed with strugz's S-staffs at bournemouth fire festival, they are pretty tricky, you have to have perfect planes and bear in mind the rotation as well. normal staff moves do not trasfer across too easily.
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#842977 - 25/09/07 10:26 PM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: Mynci]
strugz Offline
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Registered: 06/03/02
Loc: Southampton - Possibly...
Tom

I just popped by, ill be back - but essentially - you can do ALL doubles (spinny) moves with them - parralel, split time, anti spin, isolations - Everything......

There is a little knack to it - a twist in plane / direction.... not like normal sticks thats for sure.....

ill see if i can get some info / short vid for you soon......

Sorry for the delay in responding - i aint about much these days
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#842978 - 26/09/07 03:02 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: strugz]
FireTom Offline
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No worries at all - time's a master that I meet frequently... as long as you keep your promise before end of this year I find them SO hard to grasp at first... wonder whether one could spin Thaistyle with them

But they are sweet - I will definitl. get a pair
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#842979 - 27/09/07 05:43 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: FireTom]
_Clare_ Offline
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Registered: 22/10/02
Loc: Belfast
You could always ask Bryan/Banyan... since I think he inspired this, no?

I realise it may have originally come from Michael Moschen... but I know both Strugz and Tom were inspired by seeing (or vids) of Bryan's lovely S-staffs at the start of this year...

He used to be here as Heph...

(credit where it's due, and all that)

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#842980 - 28/09/07 02:24 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: _Clare_]
Gnor Offline
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Registered: 31/03/03
Loc: Perth
lovely amazing stuff.

Where are you getting them from Tom? Or are you getting them made
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#842981 - 28/09/07 06:44 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: Gnor]
FireTom Offline
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... did do de crediting I knew of in the IP. Mucho thank yo for enlightening the paths of origin to me humble apprentice, Clare. Will seek out Banyan (thanks for reminding me of his nick) and Heph (?) for further information. to Clare

I'll get them in BKK - Pak is making them, has got a pair on sale for 4 grand incl. wick. Sounds reasonable to me.
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#842982 - 29/09/07 12:06 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: FireTom]
Gnor Offline
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I have enthused the guys here and one of them makes all sorts of stuff. His gf is interested so may even happen. The Goose is awesome
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#842983 - 25/10/07 06:21 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: Gnor]
fire_freaks Offline
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Registered: 08/06/07
Loc: Vilnius
Yesterday tried my new curved double
got an accident... lol
what i did is put there 'abit' too much wick
burned like hell+ the curve...

got my t-shirt ignited(it had some fuel shaken from staffs)
nothing serious really, but was quite hot


Edited by fire_freaks (25/10/07 06:36 AM)

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#842984 - 25/10/07 11:59 PM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: fire_freaks]
Mynci Offline
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Registered: 27/04/05
Loc: wombling free...
is there anyway to burnoff the fuel from a curved staff? I wouldn't have thought so.
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#842985 - 26/10/07 06:54 PM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: Mynci]
FireTom Offline
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That is a very valid question! Never though of it, as they (usually) spin lots slower.

I'll have mine made next week - found someone able to weld aluminum and that for reasonable price.
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#842986 - 27/10/07 04:26 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: FireTom]
Suibom Offline
I looked in a mirror and noticed I was infinitely twisted.

Registered: 02/09/05
Loc: Oregon, USA
I'd imagine that a fireball style spinoff wouldn't be possible due to the form of the curved staff. With a regular staff, the fuel is expelled along the full surface area of the wick, causing it to wick off in fine droplets which generates the fireball. With a curved staff, the fuel will be drawn to the outer edge of one of the curves which likely will not have the same effect.

However, you could probably do a trail style burnoff if you can spin the staff fast enough in wall plane.

If you end up trying it, be careful and let us know how it goes. (I'd probably try it with a mockup staff and water, rather than lit fuel).

Peace,
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#842987 - 02/11/07 09:40 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: Suibom]
fire_freaks Offline
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Registered: 08/06/07
Loc: Vilnius
i tried, it is possible to spin curved rather quiclky, by putting hands at about 1/3 and 1/3 length of it ang making simple spinning moves
but it's far from what is needed to get a fireball anyway

Made my curved myself, as most of other equipment

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#842988 - 03/11/07 04:28 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: fire_freaks]
Wooktastic Offline
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Registered: 10/01/07
Loc: Dublin
Just wondering how well curved staff moves would translate to a scythe. Obviously with the scythe the curves aren't as extreme and there's weight at one end, but would it be similar?
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#842989 - 03/11/07 04:52 AM Re: Curved Staff Moves Thread - input appreciated [Re: Wooktastic]
Suibom Offline
I looked in a mirror and noticed I was infinitely twisted.

Registered: 02/09/05
Loc: Oregon, USA
Nah, a scythe is completely different. You'd be using more polearm styled movements with it.

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