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#841875 - 26/10/07 11:45 AM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! ***** [Re: Rellizate]
PK_ Offline
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Registered: 20/12/01
I've had dowelling burn out in staves before now too.. depends on how much use they are going to get really. Plus immersing them in fuel is going to make the dowel soak in some fuel.

How can there not be oxygen getting to the dowelling?

I'll see if i have any photos... I dont think i do but i shall look.
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#841876 - 26/10/07 12:05 PM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: PK_]
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Registered: 10/02/07
Loc: Cambridge, UK
Well the oxygen is only on the end, so the thing can't actually burn. Just blacken abit.
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#841877 - 26/10/07 12:41 PM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: Rellizate]
Stout Offline
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Registered: 12/05/04
Loc: Victoria,Canada
Rellizate...I'd go with PKs design as dowelling inside tubecores isn't really necessary, especially if you're going to crimp and drill the top of the tube.

One thing I will advise AGAINST though, is using dowelling inside a tubecore and simply screwing an eye bolt into the dowelling as a means to attach the chains. I bought a set like this, once, and along with having to constantly check to make sure the eye bolt wasn't backing off ( yes it was glued, but heat= expansion and contraction of metal ) when I blew a move once ( 4 bt TTN ) the impact of the poi hitting together shattered the dowelling sending the poi head flying off.

Good thing they weren't lit at the time.

You say you need to make lots....if you're making these for other people I'd go as idiot proof as possible.

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#841878 - 26/10/07 01:13 PM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: Stout]
Rellizate Offline
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Hmm. It seems that dowelling makes them seem more professional...
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#841879 - 26/10/07 01:32 PM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: Rellizate]
Stout Offline
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Yes..they will definitely look more professional and finished.

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#841880 - 26/10/07 01:48 PM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: Stout]
PK_ Offline
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No swivels on those though but they are the only photo's I can find right now.

I think that any poi will look professional as long as they are secure.. not just because they have dowelling in the middle.
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"To be an angel, one need not have wings.
In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

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#841881 - 26/10/07 02:34 PM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: PK_]
Stout Offline
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Registered: 12/05/04
Loc: Victoria,Canada
Those look good and secure. You could even put a quicklink between the two inner bolts.

Less exposed hot flesh searing metal than the crimped top design too

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#841882 - 26/10/07 02:45 PM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: Stout]
PK_ Offline
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Those ones were polished aluminium, were ultra light too, though Alu heats more than Steel so if it does get you.. then you might get a more nasty burn.
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"To be an angel, one need not have wings.
In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

*Francois Couperin.

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#841883 - 26/10/07 09:59 PM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: PK_]
Rellizate Offline
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Loc: Cambridge, UK
Hmm that is a nice design. How did you secure the wicks on?
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#841884 - 26/10/07 10:06 PM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: Rellizate]
PK_ Offline
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Registered: 20/12/01
tape your wick in place, drill and secure them, it's your choice with fixings, screw or nuts and bolts!.
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"To be an angel, one need not have wings.
In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

*Francois Couperin.

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#841885 - 26/10/07 10:08 PM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: PK_]
Rellizate Offline
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Loc: Cambridge, UK
How can you screw without a dowel? Or just screw it into the hole you drilled?
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#841886 - 26/10/07 10:32 PM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: Rellizate]
PK_ Offline
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I don't see the point in the extra weight in using dowelling, when you can easily spend an extra few pence in nuts and bolts to make a much lighter and cleaner job.

But yes, you could use dowel to hold the screws in place.. if using the correct size screw slightly larger in diameter than the small pre drilled hole through your wick and tube, the screw will be held in place by the tube, and once your poi have been lit the metal core and screw will become snug together and should not come loose (but not forever), but then you should check all equipment prior to any use that would be your responsibility and not mine as I am in no way accountable for saying this is 100% how you should make poi.

You seem adamant in using dowel, if so use it, it's extra cost in your build but I'd look at that money being used to buy nice nuts and bolts.

Just my opinion.
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"To be an angel, one need not have wings.
In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

*Francois Couperin.

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#841887 - 31/10/07 10:43 AM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: NYC]
jordanaaaaa Offline
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Registered: 31/10/07
hi! okay. so basically, i'm trying to go from forward to backwards weave and i'm having trouble going from backwards to forwards. any suggestions?

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#841888 - 31/10/07 12:45 PM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: jordanaaaaa]
PK_ Offline
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 Written by: jordanaaaaa


hi! okay. so basically, i'm trying to go from forward to backwards weave and i'm having trouble going from backwards to forwards. any suggestions?





Ok... simple way to look at this is to watch your hands.

Spin the poi forwards... when the right hand comes to cross to the left side (your turning left), your right hand passes over the left yes?.. here is where you turn your body 180 degrees and now your spinning in reverse.. the same works here too, but your hand passes underneath, as your hand crosses, turn 180 degrees with it.


For turning in the opposite direction, you just need to cross when the other hand is crossing and turn to other way.

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"To be an angel, one need not have wings.
In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

*Francois Couperin.

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#841889 - 05/11/07 03:17 AM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: NYC]
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Registered: 12/07/06
helpp!
how can u tell the difference between 3 bt /4 bt nd 5 bt weave??? im confuzzled !

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#841890 - 05/11/07 06:43 AM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: fireflyfaerie]
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 Written by: fireflyfaerie


helpp!
how can u tell the difference between 3 bt /4 bt nd 5 bt weave??? im confuzzled !



Ok...

So 2 beats would be a single beat of one poi on your left sside and your right side and the same with the other poi with your arms crossing ifront of you.

3 beats... The poi on it's natural side (right hand, on the right side) makes a single rotation and then 2 rotations on its opposite side and visa versa with the other poi.

If you are un sure of how to do these, then please feel free to ask or do a search. I have explained a few last week just a few posts above this one.

4 beat, would mean that one of the poi would have to do 2 rotations on its natural side as well as the opposite side, this can be done with either hand... I'd recommend practising with both poi here has putting both together you get the 5 beat.

I hope you find that explanation useful, if not feel free to PM me or post again.

It really is recommended to search, as we have recently updated the forums to make things easy to find the information you require as most of these have been discussed a hundred times, but I don't mind helping and trying to explain again.

Good luck.
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PK.

"To be an angel, one need not have wings.
In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

*Francois Couperin.

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#841891 - 06/11/07 10:39 PM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: NYC]
accordracer Offline
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Registered: 06/11/07
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I just attempted my first spin with home made glow poi. the testicle shots hurt a bit. I got it on video just to see what it looks like. I watched some of the vids of others and the instructionals a few weeks before. any tips on the easiest way to learn? I keep seeing socks or fuzzy poi, but I dont want to be afraid of getting hit by something heavy when Im spinning the real thing. though as I said I'm new and dont know much about the learning process.
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#841892 - 07/11/07 12:13 AM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: accordracer]
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Registered: 31/03/03
Loc: Perth
Lots of us spin with socks as we simply enjoy it. Not that it hurts that much less than with firepoi (says me as a girl) If you spin it fast I think anything will drop you into a whimpering heap on the ground.
Find a neargy gathering of people and find someone who can teach. Plus you get to meet lovely people.
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#841893 - 07/11/07 12:22 AM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: Gnor]
BurdaA Offline
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Registered: 20/07/07
Loc: At the quiet limit
Entirely up to you. Different people prefer different feeling poi. I only really use socks, but I know spinners who prefer flags, trails, ribbons, lightsticks etc.

To avoid any pain at all go for some nice soft fuzzy poi (I think there's some available in the HoP shop or make some of your own). The ribbon poi I've got are also very soft like tiny beanbags, with ribbons. I think you can find softer alternatives to most types of poi, except maybe lightsticks and firepoi, but someone'll correct me if I'm wrong.

But for me I've always kind of treated the pain as an incentive to not make mistakes. And besides, its not real pain is it? Unless you're using something real heavy, in which case stop .

Hope this helps
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#841894 - 07/11/07 04:34 AM Re: New To Poi? ASK ME ANYTHING!!! [Re: BurdaA]
PK_ Offline
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I would advise in learning with unlit fire poi once your accustomed to heavier poi, if your intentions are to eventually do poi with fire.

I'd only avoid beaming poi, as they really do hurt.

Tail poi are slow, they give you nice control to learn with, but can tangle really easily.

Socks with tenis balls are great and you can't really go wrong learning with them, it is just a case of finding what is comfortable for you.

I can't really advise on any thing that hasn't already been said so I shall leave it at that.

Good luck learning, and if you need any advice on beginners moves then feel free to ask.
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PK.

"To be an angel, one need not have wings.
In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

*Francois Couperin.

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