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#805524 - 15/01/07 10:55 PM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: LazyAngel]
Zenooph Offline
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Registered: 26/08/06
Loc: Johannesburg
It makes me sick just thinking that there are people out there capable of doing something like that.

My condolences to sparrow and his wife.
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#805525 - 15/01/07 11:04 PM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Zenooph]
Neon_Shaolin Offline
hehe, 'Member' huhuh

Registered: 13/07/05
Loc: Behind you. With Jam
Not only that but were crazy/stupid enough to brag about it on an internet website... It was almost like he wanted to get caught...
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#805526 - 15/01/07 11:21 PM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Neon_Shaolin]
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#805527 - 15/01/07 11:32 PM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Neon_Shaolin]
Zenooph Offline
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Registered: 26/08/06
Loc: Johannesburg
 Written by: Neon_Shaolin


Not only that but were crazy/stupid enough to brag about it on an internet website... It was almost like he wanted to get caught...



It could be Dave, but if you're sick enough to spike a pregnant woman's drink then you're clearly not thinking straight.
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#805528 - 15/01/07 11:47 PM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Zenooph]
Neon_Shaolin Offline
hehe, 'Member' huhuh

Registered: 13/07/05
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I know but many other killers have at least made an effort to lay low and cover up their tracks.

This is just another aspect of the guy's ego claiming dominance over common sense and other human-traits... That 'sticking it' to djsparrow was more important to him than his own freedom, and more importantly - the life of an innocent child.

Instead of writing someone off as loony - I am keen to know the thought processes of such a person of why something so trivial would drive someone to this...
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#805529 - 15/01/07 11:57 PM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Neon_Shaolin]
Birgit Offline
had her carpal tunnel surgery already thanks v much

Registered: 27/01/05
Loc: Edinburgh
I'll assume for the benefit of doubt they didn't know she was pregnant - in which case it's not murder, but still bad enough.

Also, what kind of club is that where people just step on a woman lying on the dancefloor and noone bothers to call an ambulance?!?
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#805530 - 16/01/07 12:01 AM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Neon_Shaolin]
Zenooph Offline
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Registered: 26/08/06
Loc: Johannesburg
I'm with you on that one Dave, being able to analize how that person's mind works. It could be quite shocking to find how big such a person's ego really is.
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#805531 - 16/01/07 12:13 AM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Naganootch]
Neon_Shaolin Offline
hehe, 'Member' huhuh

Registered: 13/07/05
Loc: Behind you. With Jam
Zenooph - In my opinion 19 years was far too lenient but you're not gonna stop stuff like this from happening again if you ignore WHY people get like this...

Birgit. I'm really sorry to say the guy DID know she was pregant when he spiked her...

 Written by: Naganootch


The person who did this to his wife at the club made a post the next morning in Sparrows video thread. It was an aweful post that i had to delete. I saved it first luckily. I checked the other post by the person and they were all promoting "SA". I called sparrow on the phone to find out if something had happened and he told me. I told him about the post and dave banned him and everything. We gave sparrow the place the post was made from etc etc. The info he got was enough for him to call the coips to give them someone to look for. The person knew his wife was pregnant, because his post said something to the effect of " you sparrow, your wife, and your dead kid"


sooooooooo yeah.

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#805532 - 16/01/07 12:18 AM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Neon_Shaolin]
Drudwyn Offline
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Registered: 27/08/05
Loc: Southampton Uni
See you next tuesday. That is all.
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#805533 - 16/01/07 12:24 AM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Zenooph]
Spanner Offline
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Registered: 27/02/03
Loc: the port of Gos
I'm sat here shaking and crying
I was attacked in my first trimester. I feel so lucky that my child survived, but so much sadness for this one who didn't
While I was reading that, the first thing I wanted to do was to offer my condolences so when I've had a cup of tea and calmed down, that's exactly what I'll go and do.
Thanks for letting us know, Kael
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#805534 - 16/01/07 12:26 AM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Spanner]
Neon_Shaolin Offline
hehe, 'Member' huhuh

Registered: 13/07/05
Loc: Behind you. With Jam
I know Spanner

While it's good that the b*stards were caught out by their own stupidity it's not gonna bring back the child is it?
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#805535 - 16/01/07 12:29 AM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Drudwyn]
Zenooph Offline
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Registered: 26/08/06
Loc: Johannesburg
19 years is definately way to lenient. Effectively he took the life of an unborn child, thus he should have gotten a life sentence, but it's true what you said, just by removing these people from society isn't the solution.

There really should be a lot more psychological testing done on these people so we can find the root of the problem.

What would you do to stop these people once we know what causes such reactions? Genetic engineering?
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#805536 - 16/01/07 12:31 AM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Zenooph]
Gnor Offline
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Registered: 31/03/03
Loc: Perth
Brings home Lightnings points about watching your drinks in a party situation. There are some real losers out in our society that will stop at nothing to harm others.

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#805537 - 16/01/07 12:40 AM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Gnor]
Neon_Shaolin Offline
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Registered: 13/07/05
Loc: Behind you. With Jam
Zenooph - there's nothing you can do except keep an eye on people who start getting WAAAAY too hyper about certain trivial subjects, it can either be put down to an immature teenager or someone who MAY kill...

Gnor - this is hopefully another important cautionary tale about watching your drinks...
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#805538 - 16/01/07 01:02 AM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Neon_Shaolin]
newgabe Offline
what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.

Registered: 03/03/05
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
I looked up liquid MDMA just now cos I couldn;t figure how someone could drink a lot of ecstasy and not pick up on the bitterness. The sites all said that mdma is not easily soluble in water. That 'liquid' MDMA tends to be GHB (Fantasy)which tastes salty/soapy. So although I do not want to cast doubt on this story, I don't quite understand how she got to be spiked. I have had something that was given to me as liquid MDMA though (thanks, son) and it was strong tasting as I recall...
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#805539 - 16/01/07 01:04 AM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Neon_Shaolin]
Birgit Offline
had her carpal tunnel surgery already thanks v much

Registered: 27/01/05
Loc: Edinburgh
I don't want to make this the main point or start a discussion which is off-topic, but if he posted that afterwards, he may not have known at the point when he spiked her drink.

However, the fact that he shows no regret is very saddening. And of course, whenever someone spikes a drink, they run the risk that that person is pregnant or has an illness that can become fatal under the influence of drugs.

All I'm trying to say is, this is bad enough without taking an intention to kill for granted
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#805540 - 16/01/07 01:05 AM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: newgabe]
Zenooph Offline
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Registered: 26/08/06
Loc: Johannesburg
If you get pure MDMA powder and just drop it into someone's drink it's quite hard to detect even in water.

I talk from personal experience.
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#805541 - 16/01/07 01:40 AM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Zenooph]
newgabe Offline
what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.

Registered: 03/03/05
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
OK thanks for the info Zenooph. And happy birthday!
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#805542 - 16/01/07 01:45 AM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: newgabe]
Zenooph Offline
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Registered: 26/08/06
Loc: Johannesburg
That's what forums are about newgabe, sharing the info.

I just hope people realise how hectic the problem of drink spiking has become and that even if you drink water, people can dissolve something in it without you knowing.

Thanks for the birthday wishes
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#805543 - 16/01/07 02:12 AM Re: Murder over the poi/glowstringing culture/artform - Please read :( [Re: Zenooph]
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