#758199 - 09/08/06 11:05 PM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: Chronofracture333]
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Hobo Gaylord
Registered: 15/06/05
Loc: I am worldwide and lush
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Actually I think you can trace out a (bendy) triforce with a fire staff. You can make an equilateral triangles with convex sides by isolating one end of the staff whilst moving the staff through 60 degrees (repeat three times).
So the hand path would consist of four concave triangles a quarter of the size rotated through 60 degrees and joined at the points not along the sides.
Not sure you could do a sierpinski gasket though because of the larger negative spaces joining the triforces.
Right, and to be slightly on topic, any thoughts on patterns combining normal and anti-spin?
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#758200 - 09/08/06 11:14 PM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: Chronofracture333]
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Flying Water Muppet
Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
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yesh: get rid of normal and only do anti-spin. And reply to your pm's!
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#758201 - 09/08/06 11:19 PM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: Chronofracture333]
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110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
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Written by: Chrono333
Right, and to be slightly on topic, any thoughts on patterns combining normal and anti-spin?
well you can reverse one rotation, or the other, innit?
Reverse the rotation around the staff centre, and you get funny "bouncy" looking patterns, see the pic in Megs gallery, or the thingummy in mine, to get some idea of trails and general shape.
i'm finding with doubles that opposite direction stuff looks prettier than same direction for doing that type of thing.
These ones don't feel intuitive AT ALL. I'm kinda starting to feel a sort of momentum to them now, but only just...
Alternatively, you can reverse the larger hand circle, keeping the staff rotation constant. it's easy to start getting wierd funky machine looking patterns that look like you're stuck in some kind of loop.
And of course you can mess with switching rotations after every full circle, half circle, third, quarter etc etc...
hmmm... or switching which rotation you're switching. Haven't tried that. Really really want to now, but i'm at work with no sticks 
Where's my biro? 
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#758202 - 10/08/06 02:56 AM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: simian]
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Flying Water Muppet
Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
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Hmm nice idea. Mixing changing staff direction with changing arm direction. Spin, anti-spin and isolation, together at last!
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"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
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#758203 - 10/08/06 03:13 AM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: mcp]
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Pirate Ninja
Registered: 13/05/04
Loc: Galway/Ireland
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Was playing with these last night. Weird and very cool. some nice poly rythmic patterns to be had with opposite directions
I started here
One hand doing antispin, other hand doing a long arm one beat.
So your hands travel in the same pattern as same direction fig8's.
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#758204 - 10/08/06 04:55 AM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: ado-p]
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Flying Water Muppet
Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
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simians box:  Anti-spin 45 degrees  ... ... ... anti-spin + anti-spin along a cross shape, 3/4 of a full spin... (part) Inspired by archimedes trammel. (again)  full:  the above with a quarter spin in place of a 3/4 spin:  the above with a 'spin' quarter spin along the cross line.  ... ... ... poly-rhythm, anti-spin on bottom, 3/4 normal spin on top, longarm.  quartered this time:  the full thing:  ... ... ... r-types for teh win!  couldn't quarter an r-type, so instead is a quarter of r-type, then a quick quarter spin on the spot then a quarter anti-spin.  maybe I will get around to the hand and wick trails sometime soon-ish...
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#758205 - 10/08/06 05:47 AM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: mcp]
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enthusiast
Registered: 24/02/04
Loc: Edinburgh, UK
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Dude, I'm so sending your boss a link to this page...
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#758208 - 10/08/06 09:26 PM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: coleman]
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110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
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Surely this one is just a dodgily timed antisuper-spin circle  and if you turn it upside down and look at the wick trails... aww it's the big heart i was talking about. Quite fitting what with all the little  thingys flying about. Personally i don't meg AT ALL. She is mean and nasty and totally from Scotland. Thus my feelings toward her are far more  
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#758209 - 10/08/06 09:37 PM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: simian]
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Flying Water Muppet
Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
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It's totally not a heart dude. Unless you do it badly. You should learn how to SEE. I do not recognise the juggling or flashing of simians. it's an R-TYPE!
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"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
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#758210 - 10/08/06 09:41 PM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: mcp]
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110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
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nah don't believe you for a moment. Dodgily timed anti-super, that's what that is
and yeah ok, the heart shape is a bit very dodgy. The spin version is much better proportioned.
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#758212 - 30/08/06 03:57 AM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: imakokode]
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just lost .... evil init
Registered: 12/06/03
Loc: Adelaide
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long doubles antispin is awesomely mind bending  thanks for all the ideas
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#758213 - 16/09/06 04:22 PM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin *DELETED*
[Re: ben-ja-men]
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just lost .... evil init
Registered: 12/06/03
Loc: Adelaide
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#758215 - 19/09/06 02:41 AM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: coleman]
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just lost .... evil init
Registered: 12/06/03
Loc: Adelaide
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was playing around trying to do anti spin with a cross where only one stick antispins in front of you and the other kinda stays horizontal translating up and down while spinning in circles, it hurt my brain alot .... i think it will look sick as if it ever works
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#758216 - 22/09/06 05:53 AM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: ben-ja-men]
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member
Registered: 27/04/05
Loc: Paris
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yeah great stuff ! anti spin must be done very quick so the eye can see the drawing fire lines ^^ do you practice the first trick as fast as the second? I did a short Vid at BM06 with some antispin moves but... very slow  !! and not clean at all mostly cause I broke one of my tiny staves there, so it's reall difficult to do the same with 20 cm more >> Here you go
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#758217 - 22/09/06 10:42 PM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: imakokode]
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Registered: 06/03/02
Loc: Southampton - Possibly...
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#758218 - 22/09/06 10:59 PM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: strugz]
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Pirate Ninja
Registered: 13/05/04
Loc: Galway/Ireland
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loverly, thanks julien!
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#758224 - 09/10/06 11:29 PM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: simian]
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Flying Water Muppet
Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
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NOOOOOOOOOO!
and no! Of course I don't! It's just with say imakokode's pentagon and octagon anti-spin, you have to use fingerspins. And they're still cool, but this one, doesn't use finger-spins which is nice too.
I mean really: anti-spin is what makes fingerspinning okay... y'know?
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"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
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#758225 - 09/10/06 11:40 PM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: mcp]
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110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
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you definitely don't need fingerspins for pentagons, just a shotgunny wrist twist
i very much doubt you need them for octagons either
triangle fig 8s are wierd, they feel like fishtails
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#758227 - 09/10/06 11:47 PM
Re: Doubles Isolated Antispin
[Re: strugz]
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Flying Water Muppet
Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
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Yeah I know. It's GONE. The hair is GONE. Might as well post lab 05.1 now that the cat is out of the bag...  You need fingerspins if you want the shapes to stay in front of you. Otherwise not. (not sure on the octagon front... )
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"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
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did you guys made any vidz of this ? 
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