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#632757 - 27/09/05 12:51 AM Staff Philosophy
Fine_Rabid_Dog Never Gonna Give You Up Registered: 26/05/04 Loc: They seek him here, they seek ...	What ever you do, don't go taking me seriously Why the hell is philosphy reserved only for poi? "Poi is life"...... where the hell is staff in that equation? Poi gets all the "There is no move" BS... what do we get? Nowt. S'not fair. I want to be able to terrify newbies with such confusing words of wisdom, but yet there doesn't seem to be any spiritual side to staff... Lame! Is it because staffers are, by default, meat heads? Is it beacuse philosophy is reserved only for the wussier side of object manipulation? Should I just shut the hell up before I get lynched? Edited by Fine_Rabid_Dog (27/09/05 12:55 AM) _________________________ The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."
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#632758 - 27/09/05 01:04 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: Fine_Rabid_Dog]
strugz Carpal \'Tunnel Registered: 06/03/02 Loc: Southampton - Possibly...	Written by: Fine_Rabid_Dog Is it because staffers are, by default, meat heads? dude............wft Written by: Fine_Rabid_Dog Should I just shut the hell up before I get lynched? Take your own advice.............. As far as the spiritual mind of wisdom and wonder of a staffer........have you not read any of bens posts Go and educate yourself boy!!
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#632759 - 27/09/05 01:08 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: strugz]
Fine_Rabid_Dog Never Gonna Give You Up Registered: 26/05/04 Loc: They seek him here, they seek ...	Written by: strugz Written by: Fine_Rabid_Dog Is it because staffers are, by default, meat heads? dude............wft Like I said, don't go taking me seriously. This is a bit tounge in cheek. I myself am a staffer. I dont like poi much at all I don't believe staffers are meat heads at all. I just think its interesting that there's not much "deep" stuff being said about staff, where as they all seem to love flashing it about in the poi sections _________________________ The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."
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#632760 - 27/09/05 01:12 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: Fine_Rabid_Dog]
strugz Carpal \'Tunnel Registered: 06/03/02 Loc: Southampton - Possibly...	ok man fair enuf....... my guess would be staffers dont waste time talking bollox Besides why make soemthing more complicated than it already is, concentrate on hardass moves, leave the deep philosophy to the poiers In life there are thinkers and there are do-ers - which one are you
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#632761 - 27/09/05 01:16 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: strugz]
Fine_Rabid_Dog Never Gonna Give You Up Registered: 26/05/04 Loc: They seek him here, they seek ...	Neither, I'm as lazy as hell, and I ain't too bright I agree that the philosophy makes stuff more complicated than it really needs to be. I also reckon its a fair comment to call it all bollox _________________________ The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."
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#632762 - 27/09/05 01:18 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: Fine_Rabid_Dog]
strugz Carpal \'Tunnel Registered: 06/03/02 Loc: Southampton - Possibly...	Written by: Fine_Rabid_Dog I also reckon its a fair comment to call it all bollox wise words there FRD - you should become a philosopher
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#632763 - 27/09/05 01:27 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: strugz]
strugz Carpal \'Tunnel Registered: 06/03/02 Loc: Southampton - Possibly...	here is some contact dance philosophy to get you started: ben-ja-men' s contact dancy thread
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#632764 - 27/09/05 01:30 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: strugz]
Kyrian Dreamer Registered: 15/03/02 Loc: York, England	yeah, and like, dude, do you EVER read bender's posts? there's another one... I'm actually the most annoyed about guff's disapeerence cause i was asking some questions of him (bender) at the time it was taken off, and he always has very useful things to say but yeah, i think you're just not looking in the right places.... _________________________ Keep your dream alive Dreamin is still how the strong survive Shalom VeAhavah New Hampshire has a point....
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#632765 - 27/09/05 01:31 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: strugz]
simian monkey Registered: 11/10/02 Loc: London	no. you are both wrong (edit: writing that 2 posts behind, talking to FRD and Strugz. Kyrian's post is probably wrong too, i just haven't read it yet ) there are good reasons to think about things you do. It helps you come up with new ways of looking at the stuff you do, which can lead to different ways of doing the things that you were doing before, but in such a way that their "doingness" is more related to the reason you were doing them in the first place. And stuff like that. In other matters: There are no moves? There are lots of moves However, they're far outnumbered by stuff that isn't moves.
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#632766 - 27/09/05 01:32 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: simian]
strugz Carpal \'Tunnel Registered: 06/03/02 Loc: Southampton - Possibly...	Written by: simian In other matters: There are no moves There are lots of moves However, they're far outnumbered by stuff that isn't moves. and there this thread ends nuff said
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#632767 - 27/09/05 01:34 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: strugz]
Fine_Rabid_Dog Never Gonna Give You Up Registered: 26/05/04 Loc: They seek him here, they seek ...	Written by: Ben-ja-men There is an essence to each movement this essence is what makes it beautiful, the closer to the true essence the movement the more beautiful it is. I'm quoting this here to avoid taking that thread off topic Whoah... Thats a bit Plato - World of the Forms right there. The whole essence thing, and the moves already existing. Very much like Plato's theory that everything already has a form (the perfect form, basically a blueprint) and everything is just a particular of the original form. But most things only have the essence, or the qualities, of the original form. Does this mean we can never reach staff perfection? damn it! _________________________ The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."
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#632768 - 27/09/05 01:34 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: simian]
Kyrian Dreamer Registered: 15/03/02 Loc: York, England	Wow, I was a couple posts behind too... 'tis not all bollox people, just 95% of it... But simian already did a better job saying it than i'm gonna, so i'll step down Altho he's being confusing as well.... edit: you guys post too fast!! fin ell.... the essence stuff sounds too tautology-ish at this time of morning for me tho.... I like the moves quite much better Edited by Kyrian (27/09/05 01:37 AM)* _________________________ Keep your dream alive Dreamin is still how the strong survive Shalom VeAhavah New Hampshire has a point....
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#632769 - 27/09/05 01:37 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: Kyrian]
Fine_Rabid_Dog Never Gonna Give You Up Registered: 26/05/04 Loc: They seek him here, they seek ...	Written by: Kyrian Altho he's being confusing as well.... I think thats what I dislike about the whole spinning philosophy thing. Its so damn confusing. Me being an unintellignet chap, I can barley make head or tail of whats being said by those of the Jedi quality... _________________________ The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."
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#632770 - 27/09/05 01:45 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: Fine_Rabid_Dog]
simian monkey Registered: 11/10/02 Loc: London	well yeah, but if you just say something simply, then people go "oh, is that it?" and wander off. if you set them a crossword clue then they can get all excited even if you're showing them the obvious. Plato's forms are a load of rubbish. Especially when applied to staff moves. although certain variables will increase a movement's aesthetic value. But those variables are arbitrarily set. Eye of the beholder, and whatnot. And is it all about aesthetics anyway? is staff: art, fun or stick? anyone who suggests they are a combination of all three should be given a chilli oil eyebath for stating the obvious when they should be being obtuse\obscure\obese. _________________________ "Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
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#632771 - 27/09/05 01:50 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: simian]
Fine_Rabid_Dog Never Gonna Give You Up Registered: 26/05/04 Loc: They seek him here, they seek ...	Written by: simian Plato's forms are a load of rubbish. Agreed. Any bloke that reckons that subjective views and useing your senses are stupid should have unpleasant stuff done to him. Whilst reason is a useful thing, to use it on its own makes no sense. Science has answered a lot of questions, and its mostly all emperical and stuff. Hooooya! I ain't half off topic Staff isn't fun! It's life! Duh! Edited by Fine_Rabid_Dog (27/09/05 02:04 AM) _________________________ The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."
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#632772 - 27/09/05 02:40 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: Fine_Rabid_Dog]
Stone Carpal \'Tunnel Registered: 13/06/01 Loc: Melbourne	Hey synergy Why not learn poi? _________________________ The ingredients of health and long life are Great temperance, open air, Indian Clubs, little care.
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#632773 - 27/09/05 02:41 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: Stone]
Fine_Rabid_Dog Never Gonna Give You Up Registered: 26/05/04 Loc: They seek him here, they seek ...	Written by: Stone Why not learn poi? I did. And got bored with it fairly quickly. Poi was the first thing I ever span with. But Staff is what I love _________________________ The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."
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#632774 - 27/09/05 03:10 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: Fine_Rabid_Dog]
TheBovrilMonkey Liquid Cow Registered: 03/09/01 Loc: High Wycombe, England	Then take up clubs - potentially all the wierd hippy philosophy type stuff of poi combined with the no-nonsense lack of bendyness of a staff _________________________ But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
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#632775 - 27/09/05 03:15 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: TheBovrilMonkey]
Fine_Rabid_Dog Never Gonna Give You Up Registered: 26/05/04 Loc: They seek him here, they seek ...	I love swinging clubs! _________________________ The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."
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#632776 - 27/09/05 04:39 AM Re: Staff Philosophy [Re: Fine_Rabid_Dog]
T&B Me Registered: 30/08/03 Loc: London/Bristol	Written by: stugz my guess would be staffers dont waste time talking bollox what wrong with talking bollox Written by: Fine_Rabid_Dog Written by: Ben-ja-men There is an essence to each movement this essence is what makes it beautiful, the closer to the true essence the movement the more beautiful it is. ok point taken _________________________ Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all Ct
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