Staff Philosophy

Porn!!! ....maybe.... strugz definately F**ked me..

*pouts* see it does work *strikes manly pose* and the trick looks better when I do it.....

Id call it total contact i may even post it in the new moves thread "conveyor belt to someoneelses balls"

difficult move to pull off - i must be good

key is in tha post. Yeah, but you didn't catch it again after the contact poi bit...

hard to catch anything when you laugh that hard afterwards...

I also picked up staff much quicker.

But have you tried contact yet truespin?

Took me ages just to get a bloody half steve!

only *just* tried contact (I've only had my staff for a month...)
have got a shakey forwards fishtail with my right hand and that's it...
*very* addictive though
BTW what's a half (or full steve? video?) I'm self taught so don't know any of the names or in fact the moves..!

is this why there's no staff philosophy?

Staffers get distracted and start talking about what steves are?
(search for a vid in this very forum called "Drew and Staff", it's labelled in the vid as 'Steve's move', funnily enough...)

Do staff threads go more than poi threads?

Is this a sign of staffer's greater ability at lateral thinking than the constricted and narrow minded poi spinners?

Is this also the cause of our planes generally being shitter too?

All these and more will be answered by God during a small Q&A session in the tea room at 11:45.
Please don't use milk that has been labelled with other people's names UNLESS YOU ASK FIRST, thank you.

Why would you get sooo concerned with philosophy, when instead you can just go spin throw and contact a stick around?

My philosophy: I like sticks.

Or maybe: "Careful! It's your HEAD!"

Meg: how about 'MORE CHEESE!'

hmmm... I think a lot of the philosophy stuff comes from people talking about spinning at an advanced stage of the evening when they are under the influence of one or more recreational drugs, cos its kind of interesting to see what people can come up with, and its kind of fun.

And being philosophy, you can say anything you want about it. It's just fun to look for wider patterns in things.

Plus you can philosophise while in a very small space, whereas it is much more difficult to spin iin this condition.

sooo.... philosophy of things is an excuse to talk about spinning on a level which everyone can participate in, rather than talking about technical stuff which just confuses everyone.

Getting to the point, here's my little piece of staff philosophy:

The staff is rigid, and therefore represents that in your life which is unchangable. Learning to manipulate the staff represents the way in which we deal with our current situation.

Just as some situations seem great and then come to bite you on the arse, some of the greatest staff moves often lead to *bonk*

Thus a staff spin is a reflection of our ability to deal with life and to apply skills we have learnt in the past to avoid getting twatted in the head today.

If you were to compare poi to staff, it would be more sensible to say single staff vs a pair of poi, and double staff to quadruple poi.

Planes for both comparisons are pretty much the same

I disagree with you on saying poi is harder than staff. I've been ding poi and staff for roughly the same period of time, and staff has come to me a lot quicker than with poi. Poi requires an almost 6th sense to help you guide were you want the poi to go. Staff is far more obediant, and the points follow each other.

The staff is harder than poi debate has been around forever guys... its all about what different people are good at.

*Personally* I do find poi easier, altho less interesting as
1) They stay in my hands unless I am talking on the phone at the same time
2) They generally stay going about where I sent them within reason, wheras the staff has a tendancy to do part of a move I told it to and then wander off over some other part of my body/ the landing/ some poor person nearby/ etc

-which if you'll notice is the almost exact opposite of what frd said....

Personally I like megs second suggestion. Well, maybe I shouldn't say like, as I prefer the days when i fearlessly attempted to do some things with double three-sections, but I guess we all grow older sometimes... I should say I follow that one a lot. Especially as my staffs hurt more than just about anyone else's I've played with....

umm think this thread has gone a bit off topic into the staff vs. poi discussion.

But as far as I can see, the main philosophy seems to be: don't hit yourself

a much more down to earth philosophy than those in the poi move forums, but surely more of an instruction than a philosophy?

" There are many people who, even when studying the Way of the Staff, think that these skills will not be useful in real life. In fact, the true Way of the Staff is to train so that these skills are useful at any time, and to teach these skills so that they will be useful in all things..."

Miyamoto Musashi - ( if he'd been into staff )

I like chrono's....

I think when we get beyond "try not to damage anything when you hit yourself" the next step is just yoda:

Do or do not, there is no try.

or drew:

Don't TRY to do it, Just do it.

My new philosophy: If I get the urge to lay smackdown, I'm not going to allow myself to do contact.

This should make life interesting...

Interesting? Does interesting mean "free of contact staff" these days?

It will make it more of a challenge. Contact is too easy for smackdown purposes.

Reading this thread reminds me of a zen proverb...

novice rushes up to staff jedi;

"Master, I finally understand. There is no staff! "

!!! BONK !!!

"So how do you explain the lump on your head? "