Anti-spin clarifications and naming one move thread.

so, in honour of simians rant and my obsession with the extreme channel, I'm suggesting we give the "weaker" staff definition of anti-spin a new name of "opposite spin". (perhaps switch or fakie could also be used )

Also we need a name for the elbow wrap to back of hand to back of hand to elbow wrap move. Suggestions based on EWWE (elbow wrist wrist elbow) or EHHE (elbow hand hand elbow) may or may not be considered. The possiblity of naming the move after what it looks like could also be considered.

I like fakie.

It gives staff a cooler edge that poi fails to acheive

oh, someone in london was trying to teach me that thing. I sucked tho. can't the name's not have a *load of letters in them? i mean if we're going to do the retarded names thing we might as well say that thing where you flail the staff around on your lower arms for awhile...

seriously, i like the idea of one-two word names which are not acronyms. like steve. steve was good. i'm going to call the effin move the gummi worm if no one actually gives a halfway decent suggestion.... and then not be able to communicate with anyone about anything... oh wait, i already can't!

I really *really* don't like abbreviations with move names/move descriptions. It makes everything far too compilcated.

Named moves such as the steve, matrix and fishtail are easy to remember. Abbreviations like EWWE or EHHE is just going to confuse me, and newbies looking to learn some cool stuff.

When I first joined, the abreviations completly intemitated me. I've now given up all hope of learning anything from the forum posts, unless it has a video with it...

i like opposite spin, because it doesn't imply quantum interactions the way that 'anti spin' does, and sounds more intuitive than an acronym.
we may have to accept the reality that no naming system will please all. so in the absence of such a thing, i feel that 'opposite spin' is a worthy compromise.

--> insert llama joke here <--

So we've settled on opposite spin then? Good.

now: Saying to a newbie: "This move is called the sheep" is blatently not going to work. The steve is a name tooo engraved to change, and the matrix is a name which has a visual reference to what the move looks like. No newbie is goin to want to learn "the sheep".

I could go with "lazy elbows" or the lazy elbow move, cos at least the word elbow has some reference to the move, as does the lazy part.

it has just as much to do with the backs of your hands (or wrists) though.

and "opposite" is used in terminology FAR too much already.

"Opposite? Huh? Which type of opposite are you talking about?"

i want to learn the sheep - thats sounds like a sweeep move

Is it? I've never really used it. There's no move with that in it's name. Or a direction of type of spin called that. And since it's a fairly technical, rarely used sort of term, I don't see why it can't be called that. It makes sense, cos that what we're doing.... What type of pooposite am I doing? Is there any others? Opposite what? Opposite spin!

Yeah it may have a lot to do with the tranfers on the back of your hands, but visually, it's very much elbows pointing forwards. If we named it after wrists and abck of the hand stuff it would get very confused with the horrendous amounts of other B of the hand stuff, and similarly the elbow part of the name may get it confused with the only elbows varaition of thte move and other elbow moves. But to name it after both will be long winded, and so far to name it after neither is obscure and bizarre. So that why we're looking for a compromise.

sheep...... sheep.....
i'm totally down with sheep. and visually it may have to do with elbows but no-one knows better than me how important the hand part is ...

you could even explain th ehistory behind the sheep thing if you want to pretend in makes sense....

dude, i just realized that doing it over wrists rather than hands would be sooo much easier..... i should actually think about what you guys are writing sometimes... ha *starts to run outside.. * oh right, its raining :/
maybe in a couple hours........

describing relative movement of two sticks "the staffs are spinning opposite"

describing difference in rotation of stick to its previous rotation "now spin the staff the opposite way"

opposite side of the body, opposite ends of the staff, opposite opposite

it's too common a descriptive word, as well as being part of terminology. Something a litte more obscure would be nice.

i don't like the sheep name much, even though i did at one point suggest it. it is a lame name (or nlame).
How about something more visually representative of what it looks like. like a conveyor belt, or someone fighting (elbow!punch!punch!elbow!punch!punch!elbow!)

oh and i still maintain that the pattern isn't EWWE but WEW
(to do a continuous EWWE, you'd need bounces on either elbow.)

hello, my name is simian monkey. i am moving into your neighbourhood. i am required by law to inform you that i am a pedantrast.

It was merely stated in like five places.... i didn't say it was cool. most names arn't cool

except steve. i still think thats funny. and i really wish dom had told me so i could have tracked it down again faster...

agreed that opposite comes up too much, ... but whats wrong with clockwise and couterclockwise, really? i didn;t know them well when i started learning staff, but you know what, you learn pretty quickly and if you don't it doesn't really matter, you can just go the opposite way when you're done with the first

persume by weaker form of anitspin you mean moving the body the oppsite way of the staff type of anitspin i.e. anitspin plam spins, matrixs, steve...
personally I see anit spin as any move done with the staff spinning in the unaturel direction that definision satisfies both versions of anitspin plus it extends to anitspin angle roll. plus anitspin sounds cooler then oppsite spin.

Anyhow has anyone named the haloroll-neckroll comb?

why not "body antispin" since it refers to the two things we want it to

or if you want a single word rather than a phrase, "antiturn" describes what is going on pretty well...


cole. x

I like coleman's idea as it does not require me to be sober or awake to realize what you guys are talking about...... (specifically, "body antispin" altho either actually convey meaning....) haha, I feel stupid, shouldn't post at 6am....

has anyone else realized that if you abreviate EWW (technically, before a repeat, i suppose ewweww gets you back to the other side... or yes, wew works) but..... it spells "eww"

what did i say about not posting before i'm awake.... i'm going to go hang my head in shame now......

Coleman you are a GOD!

I agree with him. Either of those two names kick ASS!

Conveyor belt is a good name. Or maybe like breast-stroke, cos that's almost the movement that you do.

2-bags is a [censored]. would be a good name also.

i agree, it's about time i had a staff move named after me (other than the steve).