Fountains

Ok guys, I've done searches galore, I've had step by step help and I still haven't got anywhere near a fountain. I'm reading the instructions, but it just won't register with what I'm supposed to be doing! It's all got jumbled in my head as there's a lot of room in there

So. Can someone point me in the direction of a video with an example in it please? preferably one where you can see where the arms are going so I can see where I'm going wrong. Failing that, you could mail me a vid instead using my email address, which you'll find posted in the email address thread in the chat forum.

If I don't figure it out soon I really will cry!!!

Search "Fountain" > Poi moves ,
Try it again.

You are in a wrong thread..

:R

ps:http://www.spherculism.com/wiki/index.php?title=Fountain

make sure you can do a forward weave. Then check that you can do a reverse weave. Then as long as you can do a windmill - you have the components of a fountain. go from fwd weave to reverse weave to windmill and back to forward weave without moving your feet (you need to pivot and twist a bit - but its not contortion) you are doing a fountain. now it can be more technically described in terms of beats, carries, etc, but dont stress about it too much.

it's the transitions between that ya need to work on: 3 moves, that 3 transitions between each. keep practicing the transitions themselves.

the graceful twirler spends alot of time smoothing out their transitions so that their routines look like one big dance, it should be more difficult for the observer to identify single moves. IMHO.

windmill...?

i reckon all you need to be able to do to spin a fountain is a fwd weave to rev weave.

but i agree - its all about the transition...

make the transition into a big circle and you're there

this page will give you instructions for the fountain.

you also get breakdowns of the bottom half of it which, whilst called lower fountain on that page, are ususally referred to as 'front waistwraps'


cole. x

ok the way i learnt how to fountain:

"Ooh can i do a forward weave on my left side??" YAY!
"Ooh can i do a reverse weave on my right side??" *smack smack* YAY!
"Ooh can i link them??" *Thump smack crunch*....YAY!!

....3 days later

"Ooh a windmill fits in really well here!!"


Now in my opinion, it doesnt need a windmill in the middle, but if you can add it, it looks rad!

right I'm sure I got it, thanks for all your combined help (especially rev who's been really patient with me!)
My problem was with understanding wall planes eventually!!!

I'm not the first to admit i'm as thick as two short ones at times!

hugs all round!

glad that stuff I sent you helped..

Hey Tickle..

how is your fountain coming along?

Danny

um its tinkle....

and i have pics in my gallery of fountains. Plus every vid i've made has a fountain (check vid forum for links to vids)
bless you for asking lol

oops sooo sorry... i read it as tinkle but fingers just kept writing tickle.. forgive me.. it was WAY too early in the morning.. grr

OO ill have a peek.. brb

oo FAB!! looks pretty smart chick! WELL DONE... now i just gotta get it right..

i can do forward/reverse weave and windmills but getting the transition right.. NOT A CHANCE! grr...

I'm doing just what Vampyricacid said.. lol

you don't have to have a windmill in a fountain.

I had so much trouble understanding planes and people's descriptions totally baffled me.

what you could do is start off in a windmill and lower your arms (to which ever side the the poi is moving) then bring it in front of your legs to the other side of your body, and weave yourself up to a windmill again.

A poi teacher friend of mine calls it the square weave, as there are four corners to a square...

e.g. you weave the right hand side of the weave in the bottom left corner (in front of your legs).
The left hand side of the weave is spun in the top left corner, behind the shoulder.
Then pass it in front of your face, high above your head from the left side to the right (with or without the windmill - its up to you).
Then as you change to the right hand side of the weave, move it to the top right corner, behind your other shoulder.
as you change to do the left side of the weave, bring your arms down to the bottom left corner and drag the weave down low in front of your legs and beginning again.
Thinking of it as a square helps, but it has to be a smooth circular motion.

people describe this move differently and my bad for repeating stuff, but I think I've described it easy for the average joe. (with no talk of planes!)

I've also just compiled a fountain video for the newbies

As much as I liked the test screens at the start and end of that vid, I'm going to have to say it's not a great tutorial - it's so dark you can't see what you're doing for a large amount of the time.

Also, when you turn, are you facing away from the camera? That blocks out what your arms are doing through the lower turn.

The effort's appreciated though, it may well help some people

My back is towards the camera - the vid isn't meant as a tutorial, just so people can have a quick visual reference for a fountain, how it flows etc, then when they see other members' vids with this move (executed more precisely) they'll go - oh that's a fountain!. I know its dark, it was a dark night!

There is no windmill in the fountain, as the circles are in front of the head.

For a demo of a real "Full Fountain".

Go to the media circus site

ie. http://www.mediacircus.biz/

Enter

Under dvd/videos

Choose the art of clubswinging

On the Clubswinging with Sharon and Kati: An A-to-Z of club swinging page

Download the sample video

Choose dial up or broad band. Windows or real player.

Watch the sample. They do “full fountain” in the demo.


Don’t worry about the clock positions.

Got It

Cheers.

of course there is a windmill in a fountain, otherwise the transition at the top is too quick and it just becomes a fwd weave to a bwd weave. right, sunday the video camera is hopefully coming out so i'll put up a tutorial

there isn't a windmill in a fountain, its weave - arc high passed head - weave - arc low passed legs - etc

I agree with Tinkle,it is called upper fountain.

:R

if you're gonna throw in a windmill, you might as well learn how to weave under your legs, then throw one of those in too, so it will be symmetrical