Making things smaller (divX settings)

right, more begging in the video forum from coleman

this time, i'd like some compression advice please

have been playing around with some old (and some new) footage recently but every time i try rendering a movie (with a soundtrack), i can't seem to end up with a file any smaller than about 700mb.

i've seen some great videos around at a decent quality but with file sizes that are acceptable for net distribution.

if anyone that has produced a video and trudged through the quagmire that is video compression would be so kind as to give me a few tips on what settings i should be using then i might even release a video (i've only been threatening for about 2 years now )...

anyway, here are some details:

what i'm using: adobe premiere pro 1.5 & divx5.11
what i've got (well 'will have' if you want to split hairs): 7 minute edited video of firespinning (mostly black background) with music
what i want to do: render to an avi or mpeg, creating a file ~30-80mb in size
what i need: suggestions of how to set up divX to best compress this type of footage and which settings i should/can tweak to get better results
what i really would like to avoid: dropped frame rate, pixellation and interlacing
what would be the absolute ideal: an example of a video using the settings you described

if anyone's up for the challenge i'd be very grateful

thank-you


cole. x

hehe see bumped thread settings should be the same isnt premier up to 7 or something now? 1.5 sounds quite ..... vintage ?

premier pro ben.
not premier.
is the frame rate on cabaret saute to your liking? sorted the deinterlacing out too.
R

cheers ben

i got all my project settings set just as you described

i was really looking for a more detailed description of how you set divx up.
divx has four compression profiles and they all just seem to create huge files, whichever one i choose - some of them make the video unwatchable as a bonus too

any tips on how to reduce video size and quality without going completely mad figuring it out?

and premiere pro 1.5 is like premiere v8 or something.

its confusing cos they added the word 'pro' and started counting again from the start.

link to the site - pm me and i'll send you a cd if you like (maybe even one with a video too )?


cole. x

thats very weird it sounds like your outputting the file totally uncompressed

my version is using divx 5.2.1

when u export movie click settings then in the drop down box select video then click configure this should bring up the divx editable features try setting the bitrate to around 1000 kbps, ive got the encoding performance set to standard, this should give u an output size of around 7meg per minute try just outputing just a portion (click on a bit then go export clip) of your video with those settings to see if it gives u a better size (its much quicker than waiting for the whole thing to process)

cole ill install prem pro this savo, and have a look for you if you like, im going to help lisa out as well cos i dont have it on my ltop at work

so its all good, ill send you an email hopfully this savo ok?

cheers guys.

good tip on the clip export for testing all this out ben - that should save me a sh!tload of time!

another general tip i've been given is that i may want to consider rendering a high quality mpeg to start off with and then using virtualdub to encode and compress to my liking.

anyone prefer this method...?


cole. x

Andrews extra tip Divx will only compress the visual, not the audio, so use an mp3 compressor or something like microsoft adpcm for that (I guess its free as I have it).
Double compressing sound like a crazy idea.
Andrews other extra tip, make a 10 second clip and experiment on that lots to find a good solution.

Below worked for me, its not perfect its a good start, but that was divx3 I think, you can get better nowdays.
I retrospect I would have made the audio better - 16000Hz
And don't lower the frame rate, it looks pants
And i always reinstall divx 4 when I'm making videos!! i don't like 5
_________________________________________________
File: Drew and Staff.avi
File Size: 6.28MB bytes
Total Duration: 0:01:39:23
Average Data Rate: 64.36KB per second
Image Size: 360 x 288
Pixel Depth: 24 bits
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.067 <---pal!!
Frame Rate: 25.00 fps

Audio: 8000 Hz - 16 bit - Stereo

Video track 1:
Total duration is 0:01:39:23
Size is 5.43MB bytes (average frame = 2.54KB bytes)
There are 10 keyframes, 2488 delta frames.
Frame rate is 25.00 fps
Frame size is 360 x 288
Depth is 24 bits.
Compressor: 'DIV3', DivX® 5.1.1 Codec

Audio track 1:
Size is 799.00KB bytes
Rate is 8000 samples/sec, stereo
Sample size is 16 bits
Compatible compressor: MS-ADPCM
Compression ratio is 3.91:1

whos this andrew fella

there should so be a faq to video making as a sticky on this forum ....

divx does compress audio.



(mine certainly does)

not on "how to" it didn't
Maybe 5 does?? I don't use 5

how to was before i was compressing. that were pk...
i'm on 5.2.1
cabaret saute is down to 8000hz from 44000
bloody deinterlacing still pissing me off tho
AND that bloke from fyrefli.


rantranrantrant.
get my pm?

thank-you to everyone for tips, advice and settings.

will attempt a few test renders tonight and report back tomorrow (if i can get access to the net).




cole. x

rob i use tmpgenc http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html

to deinterlace all my stuff, very powerfull prog to use for free!

takes me about 1 minute to get vids compressed. i love my uberfast pootah.

tyhanks mech, i got it now.

smiles
R

right, i'm getting a 'can't load p3package.dll' any ideas?

R

well, i'm no expert but i reckon you're missing a dll called 'p3package'...

*runsoff*


cole. x

biyatch.

you're getting a serious punchhugging when i see you next.

*doofdoof**doofdoof*

you are mising a dll file from tmpgenc?

try downloading the file again, if not ill sned you a file tomorrow, so you can download my copy...