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#488416 - 15/02/05 03:02 AM oval chain cords vs wire...
wildgirl Offline
newbie

Registered: 08/02/05
Loc: Europe
Hi there,
I just did a search, but most discussions were about ball chains...
I like to see your opinions. Itīs time for a new pair of poi chains and I think of getting me wire instead of chain. Any experience with that? Anyone? What about SAFETY? Has anyone see a wire fail? (Iīm gonna buy some here on this site! No more self-made experiments...too many kids around in the audience - and burnable tents ...!!)
The other one I like (thats about what I got now) is the 3mm twist oval chain cords. But mine arenīt welded, so I like the safety aspect of those I can get here
I donīt like ball chains, no matter how good they maybe are...but I donīt trust them . I can never be sure if there is no frizz inside a ball..and if it will make my poi fly off into the people... I can live pretty good with burning myself...but I donīt have the money or insurance to pay if others get burned or worse!
Hope to hear some ideas!!! Come on !!

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#488417 - 15/02/05 05:19 AM Re: oval chain cords vs wire... [Re: wildgirl]
nearly_all_gone Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 03/08/04
Loc: Southampton
Chains every time Wire is quite restrictive, in my opinion. Plus it kinks.. = bad
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#488418 - 15/02/05 06:56 AM Re: oval chain cords vs wire... [Re: nearly_all_gone]
anonomatos Offline
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Registered: 19/01/05
Loc: Utrecht [NL]
I'm only a fire-newbie (2 fire swings), so don't trust me... but I can't imagine my firepoi with something else than a steel cable.

It's 2mm thick, highly adjustable (just unscrew the 'clips'), strong (afaik) and VERY light.
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#488419 - 15/02/05 04:32 PM Re: oval chain cords vs wire... [Re: anonomatos]
TheBovrilMonkey Offline
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Registered: 03/09/01
Loc: High Wycombe, England
My first set of fire poi were cable.
- Once they've kinked they never quite spin right.
- They tear out hair if you wrap somewhere like your arms
- It doesn't take much to break a strand of cable. When that happens you're spinning around a broken piece of wire with 2 very sharp bits that can quite easily slice bits of you open.

Since I've spun with chains, there's no way that I'm going back to any poi made with cables. Not even if they were free.
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#488420 - 15/02/05 06:16 PM Re: oval chain cords vs wire... [Re: TheBovrilMonkey]
Singed Piper (formerly Mark1) Offline
resident bagpiper

Registered: 12/07/03
Loc: Vermont, USA
done both, use chains... for the love of god, use chains... had a bad experience with an airwrap...

ballchain is my pref
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#488421 - 15/02/05 06:42 PM Re: oval chain cords vs wire... [Re: Singed Piper (formerly Mark1)]
_Poiboy_ Offline
bastard child of satan

Registered: 12/01/04
Loc: Raanana, Israel
ball\oval chains are the best... in a few words...
WIRES SUCK!!
It's very hard to do hyperloops/airwraps with them... and you can't do wraps with them... hurts alot (it can cut your skin...)... and I think they transfer heat if you do buzzsaws

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#488422 - 15/02/05 08:09 PM Re: oval chain cords vs wire... [Re: _Poiboy_]
mtbeer Offline
ARRRR!

Registered: 11/08/04
Loc: Charlotte, NC, USA
Ditto to what the others have said. Your first choice should be ball chain or twisted oval link chain. If you are concerned about safety and longevity then the welded twisted oval link chain is the answer. Ball chain will last for months of spinning but after that it's anyones guess as to when they will fail. Twisted oval link chain is slightly more difficult for hyperloops and does not swivel as well as ball chain. It's basically a tradeoff between performance and observable dependability. Either way (ball chain or oval link) you will have the best poi chains for the job.
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#488423 - 16/02/05 03:21 AM Re: oval chain cords vs wire... [Re: mtbeer]
wildgirl Offline
newbie

Registered: 08/02/05
Loc: Europe
Thankyou!! So Iīll go again with oval link chains!! ...welded this time! Actually I fell in love with some Iīve seen on here, although theyīre more than $ 60!! But looks like they are worth it!!
Take care!!

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#488424 - 16/02/05 08:27 AM Re: oval chain cords vs wire... [Re: wildgirl]
Lurch Offline
old hand

Registered: 01/11/03
Loc: Oregon
Even though you're determined not to make your own, I've got dog choker chain collars on mine, comes in various sizes and still welded and strong.. I'd only spin ballchain on practice poi but thats just because I'm paranoid of catastrophic failure with fire. Stick with the curb chain
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#488425 - 16/02/05 09:17 AM Re: oval chain cords vs wire... [Re: Lurch]
UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot Offline
Silly Chavs

Registered: 17/04/02
Loc: Possibly Romania
Ive had the same ball chain for over a year now. and its tiny. the balls are about 2mm big.

and they are strong.


yes, they have broken when ive been using them, but only after I have accidentally hit one of them on the floor hard.

I love ball chain, and I would go exactly with Bovril on not even using wire cahin even if it was free.


Edited by Unattractive Cranky Old Freud (16/02/05 09:17 AM)
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#488426 - 16/02/05 12:55 PM Re: oval chain cords vs wire... [Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
DoktorSkell Offline
addict

Registered: 11/01/05
Loc: Van Diemans Land


There is also one other thing.

Whatever material you could buy that home of poi endorse (i guess if they sell it they endorse it) wether it be wires or chain or balls.
its going to be good for poi and the rest is up to personal preference.

My personal choice is Stainless steel oval chain. its strong, looks good and is nice and heavy the way i like it.

But please please please use quality equipment especially when working with fire. thats all i will say. at my local spin there are some people that have home made poi with cheep hardware store thin tiny chains with fishing swivels and otherbudget items.

I cannot stress this enough. You are working with FIRE please use good quality equipment and really you cant go wrong
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#488427 - 17/02/05 09:32 PM Re: oval chain cords vs wire... [Re: DoktorSkell]
Lurch Offline
old hand

Registered: 01/11/03
Loc: Oregon
That's like going rock climbing with the keychain carabiners..... Stupid, but where theres a way, stupid people will find it.
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#488428 - 18/02/05 09:16 AM Re: oval chain cords vs wire... [Re: Lurch]
Dunc Offline
playing the days away

Registered: 19/08/03
Loc: The Middle lands
stainless steel ball chain is the only way to go....size dependant on head size.
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#488429 - 21/02/05 09:38 PM Re: oval chain cords vs wire... [Re: Dunc]
DoktorSkell Offline
addict

Registered: 11/01/05
Loc: Van Diemans Land
Written by: Dunc


stainless steel ball chain is the only way to go....size dependant on head size.




Maybe i will have to make a ball chain poi set.

I seem to be the only spinner who doesnt use them
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