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#465073 - 11/04/05 09:10 AM Re: All about flowers [Re: shen shui]
garthy Hybridised Registered: 22/04/02 Loc: Bristol, England	Damn it Garthy stop talking about flowers* An animated classic flower with lock outs. http://www.homeofpoi.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3528&nocache=1 To stir things up a bit........ The antispin flower in KaelGotRice picture doesn't have lockouts? Discuss! I'll post an animated picture of a antispin flower with and without lockouts and see what you think? [EDIT:] here she is http://www.homeofpoi.com/gallery/showpho...=500&page=1 Edited by garthy (11/04/05 09:16 AM) _________________________ "*grumblespuriouswindmillsgrumble*" - Coleman "if poi was only for girls there wouldnt be many good poi spinners...." - Nx
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#465074 - 11/04/05 10:59 AM Re: All about flowers [Re: garthy]
KaelGotRice Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode Registered: 21/07/03 Loc: Angel's Landing, USA	So that's antispin without lockouts, what about with? This is really a very helpful visualization, so thank you for it. _________________________ To do: More Firedrums 08 video? Wildfire/US East coast fire footage LA/EDC glow/fire footage Fresno fire <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ubbrollsmile.gif" alt="" />
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#465075 - 11/04/05 01:49 PM Re: All about flowers [Re: KaelGotRice]
Stout veteran Registered: 12/05/04 Loc: Victoria,Canada	Those graphics are amazing,,I always wondered what lockouts were, Thanks
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#465076 - 11/04/05 02:30 PM Re: All about flowers [Re: Stout]
MikeIcon Pooh-Bah Registered: 27/03/03 Loc: Philadelphia, PA - USA	Those lockouts are sorta like the linear isolations I posted about... Though, Id like to see someone who can actually pull that anti-spin flower with lockouts off... Seems like its one of those things thats possible, but not likely. _________________________ Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes. We'll blaze a new trail, and torch the rough patches. -Me
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#465077 - 11/04/05 08:57 PM Re: All about flowers [Re: MikeIcon]
coleman big and good Registered: 29/08/02 Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay	agrees with icon that antispin flower with lockout has lots of hardcore isolation needed in between the lockouts. i think lockouts just 'feel' like lockouts but aren't really ever there. if you see what i mean. cole. x _________________________ "i see you at 'dis cafe. i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself. they do porridge." - tim westwood
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#465078 - 12/04/05 04:56 AM Re: All about flowers [Re: coleman]
ben_in_a_spin member Registered: 15/03/05 Loc: london / cambridge	when you're doing antispin flowers, the poi don't pull on your arms in the normal, comfortable way (centripetal/fugal/whatever) so they feel a bit weird. (with the aid of a spirograph i have sussed why this is ) but is it easier or harder, therefore, to do four or six beat antispin flowers? with four, they seem to move a bit fast for my liking... _________________________ please help keep the world clean - others may wish to use it
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#465079 - 12/04/05 05:05 AM Re: All about flowers [Re: ben_in_a_spin]
KaelGotRice Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode Registered: 21/07/03 Loc: Angel's Landing, USA	errrr... I don't know about you guys but when I started learning flowers I had lockouts or pauses, but I don't anymore now that I've smoothed them up. Therefore... _________________________ To do: More Firedrums 08 video? Wildfire/US East coast fire footage LA/EDC glow/fire footage Fresno fire <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ubbrollsmile.gif" alt="" />
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#465080 - 12/04/05 05:29 AM Re: All about flowers [Re: KaelGotRice]
arashi raised by sighthounds Registered: 21/03/02 Loc: austin,tx	WOW that's some cool stuff. garthy's my hero for this week. the things we can do with an army of nerds... i can do the anti-lockouts one but getting the straight line/ends of the semicircles joint to be all sharp like that is a biotch. gimmie a few months maybe naaaah i like girls too much
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#465081 - 12/04/05 08:55 AM Re: All about flowers [Re: arashi]
_khan_ old hand Registered: 17/11/04 Loc: San Francisco, California, USA	hmmm....i'm confused. i thought that by definition, flowers required lockouts. what are you doing if you're doing them without lockouts??? _________________________ taken out of context i must seem so strange ~ ani di franco
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#465082 - 12/04/05 02:01 PM Re: All about flowers [Re: _khan_]
KaelGotRice Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode Registered: 21/07/03 Loc: Angel's Landing, USA	Timing them? The poi heads are going a certain speed and your arms and poi need to be in a certain place at a certain time. The issue with antispin is getting used to how gravity throws your spin out and using your wrists to account for that, while defying physics naturally. Flowers without lockouts look so much cleaner IMO. _________________________ To do: More Firedrums 08 video? Wildfire/US East coast fire footage LA/EDC glow/fire footage Fresno fire <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ubbrollsmile.gif" alt="" />
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#465083 - 12/04/05 02:27 PM Re: All about flowers [Re: KaelGotRice]
garthy Hybridised Registered: 22/04/02 Loc: Bristol, England	OK play with this Flower drawing program...... http://cranbrookroad.homeip.net/pyflower.zip Hit reset button after playing with parameters of poi.. Lockouts are broken. I need to change the way I spin the poi and arms. They work with divisable numbers. for poi and arms. They only work at 90 degrees to! TODO: * Saving Animated gifs. (I did have this working but it needs improving * Save flower parameters * Sort out lockouts. This involves changing the way I calc stuff. * Ideas anyone? If it doesn't work run from a command prompt and PM me the output..... _________________________ "*grumblespuriouswindmillsgrumble*" - Coleman "if poi was only for girls there wouldnt be many good poi spinners...." - Nx
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#465084 - 12/04/05 02:37 PM Re: All about flowers [Re: garthy]
garthy Hybridised Registered: 22/04/02 Loc: Bristol, England	Things to try... (Remember to hit reset after settnig this up) Both arms +10 Both poi -5 Lockouts enabled Both arms +3 Both poi -9 Lockouts enabled Red arm 3 Red poi 3 Blue Arm 3 Bue poi -5 Lockout disabled Red arm 3 Red poi 3 Blue Arm 3 Bue poi -5 Lockout enabled Then go off and try to spin these! _________________________ "*grumblespuriouswindmillsgrumble*" - Coleman "if poi was only for girls there wouldnt be many good poi spinners...." - Nx
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#465085 - 12/04/05 02:47 PM Re: All about flowers [Re: garthy]
KaelGotRice Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode Registered: 21/07/03 Loc: Angel's Landing, USA	Practical application of flowers and turns. _________________________ To do: More Firedrums 08 video? Wildfire/US East coast fire footage LA/EDC glow/fire footage Fresno fire <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ubbrollsmile.gif" alt="" />
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#465086 - 13/04/05 12:42 AM Re: All about flowers [Re: KaelGotRice]
NYC NYC Registered: 26/08/01 Loc: NYC, NY, USA	This thread is unacceptably helpful. How will you guys ever maintain a level of elitism if you keep showing guys like me how to do things. _________________________ Well, shall we go? Yes, let's go. [They do not move.]
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#465087 - 13/04/05 02:46 AM Re: All about flowers [Re: NYC]
garthy Hybridised Registered: 22/04/02 Loc: Bristol, England	Written by: NYC This thread is unacceptably helpful. How will you guys ever maintain a level of elitism if you keep showing guys like me how to do things. Maybe we should add more words like crypto fascist, Anti - deconstructism - progression. I meen where are the cryptic threads I had to learn off like the classic.. Cyclic deconstructionism within the framework post-modernist poi _________________________ "*grumblespuriouswindmillsgrumble*" - Coleman "if poi was only for girls there wouldnt be many good poi spinners...." - Nx
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#465088 - 13/04/05 03:52 AM Re: All about flowers [Re: garthy]
fluffy napalm fairy Carpal \'Tunnel Registered: 12/12/01 Loc: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land	garthy you are a genius and I can't unjumble a word you are saying any more. I thought i understood.............. oh how wrong I was. how utterly wrong. Ah well. skips off to practice a 3 beat weave......... _________________________ Geologists do it in the dirt................
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#465089 - 13/04/05 06:45 AM Re: All about flowers [Re: fluffy napalm fairy]
Bird now available in "advanced" Registered: 25/08/03 Loc: Cornwall	So, on a simple level..... Spin your poi, then wave your arms around like a loon and eventually you'll come across a flower variation of some sort, is that how it works, or do I need to rethink my plan?? _________________________ My state of mind is not yours to define! There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
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#465090 - 13/04/05 06:49 AM Re: All about flowers [Re: Bird]
Skulduggery Pirate Pixie Crew Captain Registered: 12/08/04 Loc: Wales	I've downloaded that and ended up with a zip file with a whole bunch of stuff I don't know what to do with......... and for some reason my unzipping thing is all odd.......... I swear this computer has gremlins and faeries in it! _________________________ Feed me Chocolate!!! Feed me NOW!
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#465091 - 14/04/05 12:09 PM Re: All about flowers [Re: Bird]
munkypunks enthusiast, but not enthusiastic Registered: 21/01/05 Loc: Los Angeles, California	Written by: Bird So, on a simple level..... Spin your poi, then wave your arms around like a loon and eventually you'll come across a flower variation of some sort, is that how it works, or do I need to rethink my plan?? That's been my plan. I have the loon part down pretty well. The problem is the eventually part starts looking like 100 monkeys with 100 typewriters....trying to spin poi..... _________________________ You can't fall off the floor, but sometimes you need a chair to reach the cookie jar.
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#465092 - 14/04/05 01:39 PM Re: All about flowers [Re: Bird]
garthy Hybridised Registered: 22/04/02 Loc: Bristol, England	Written by: Bird So, on a simple level..... Spin your poi, then wave your arms around like a loon and eventually you'll come across a flower variation of some sort, is that how it works, or do I need to rethink my plan?? Yeap. That's about it. The secret is not hitting yourself and looking like you know what you're doing. And it;s so much fun!!! _________________________ "*grumblespuriouswindmillsgrumble*" - Coleman "if poi was only for girls there wouldnt be many good poi spinners...." - Nx
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