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Post deleted by PhreakArmada

My advice would be to ground down the edges! Training with live blades is foolish. No offence intended!

This is a very bad idea. Even the most experienced twirlers make mistakes where the ends of the staffs hit them, if you had machete blades attached you could be seriously injured or worse.

Josh

if you only know 6 moves id say put ur implement of death down and learn some contact staff its much more hardcore and less likely to cut your face off

............use a longer heavier staff....lose the blades..even in the martial arts live blades are only used once mastery is acheived......what your talking about is like...spinning spiked flail heads to learn poi.....

Yeah spinning with live blades doesn't make you cool or a hard man, because anyone can do it, but it makes you an idiot because everyone else can see how pointlessly dangerous it is, especially as it looks crap compared to spinning fire anyway. You don't get trails with blades, unless you're playing Soul Calibur.

I'm not calling you an idiot. Unless you're spinning with live blades.

erm, so while I agree that practicing with live blades is pointless, don't forget about fire knife dancing. Real blades, come to think of it, machete blades as well. I'm just saying remain respectful to that artform eh. But even fireknife practicioners(usually) work their way up from padded knives to real knives.

People can do what they like, but I believe that practicing with live blades is stupid. It's pointless and dangerous, and I don't think it should be encouraged in any form.

Sorry if that offends anyone but hey, if you disagree with me then my induvidual opinion shouldn't matter or upset you. I just think something so dangerous is pointless, because it doesn't have advantages over less dangerous forms. It looks the same as a dull blade, feels the same, but can seriously hurt you. I know people get a kick out of stuff like that but I think it's a stupid idea to risk damage to your body and to other people by playing with it.

i agree with everyone else

Well if you choose to take it that way, fine, but what I was trying to express is that if spinning live blades is something which appeals to you then my calling you an idiot is probably not going to upset you, as you are clearly beyond people calling you names if you're willing to spin a live blade around your head.

If you disagree with my opinion after reading my post then you're not going to stop doing it, thereby not observing the fact that I find it idiotic, and therefore not concerned that I think you're an idiot. Hence my opinion hasn't upset you enough to reconsider the action I deem idiotic, and it clearly doesn't matter that I think so as you're still spinning live blades.

If, however, you read my post and think "Man, this is obviously something pretty strong to evoke such an emotive reaction, perhaps I should think about it a bit" then job done on my part.

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all of u can die and when im making money for what i can do then i can look back and say with a big smile "[censored] YOU"

yes thats right everyone dies such is the nature of life

i did write u a long reply on moves u could learn relatively "safely" and the dangers etc but then i deleted it as such rude response doesnt deserve a useful answer

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all of u can die and when im making money for what i can do then i can look back and say with a big smile " YOU"

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Yeah.

Cause its all about the money

Mate! Some of us just didn't want you to hurt yourself!!!

Quite honestly, this is the best place you could have come to. If you had of gotten over your ego and wondered why it might not be the best idea to spin live blades, you might have learnt something.

I for one have known people who've dedicated their lives to such things as spinning bladed weapons and still can't make a living from it. So if you can.... please do and don't get hurt.

And when you're so rich! Please buy me a drink

Cheers!

So are we talking about practicing with live blades or performing with live blades?(live meaning sharp) because while I could understand using live blades in a performance, for some sort of dramatic effect. I cannot see the point of practicing witth a live blade on anywhere near the consistant basis required to be good at the art. While I hear the martial arts argument like it has been pointed out you master a weapon before you sharpen the blade. and as for any thought differently,, you are attempting to learn a form of performance art, not training to be some feudel warrior. I would definately practice with dull/flat blades (which could still seriously hurt you, so be careful) AFTER you have mastered it with no blades, and then if you so choose after you have recieved the number of headblows and accidental smacks to the face from the END of your staff it requires to learn any serious staff form, to perform with blades, I would then assume you truelly understand the risks involved with using live blades in any form of spinning context. I am not the definative expert on this but I would think anyone who has been spinning staff/poi/meteors/bolo/etc.. for any amount of time can tell you you hit yourself ALOT while you are learning and alot less when you get good but only if you stop learning and stick to what you know(eg: performance), however practice is a time to learn new moves, transitions, etc... and while you are learning/practicing you will still hit yourself. think about it do you want to smack yourself in the face with a live blade? or in the neck, shoulder, back, leg, arm, or hand? I can't really think about anywhere in particular I want to get smacked with a blade traveling (insert top speed here 65mph?? I think or somewhere close depending on the length of the staff).
if you choose to learn with knives remember that saying...

"master the weapon before you sharpen the blade"

The small fire performance troupe that I work with have over the last few months finally gotten around to looking at fight sequences with six foot bow staff and 6 foot fire staff, we're all 'experienced' staff'ists, and where we're heading with this is towards 'partially' choreographed fire staff martial arts routine, and then possibly to fully un-choreographed martial arts sequenecs, it really depends how far we're going to take this particular performance routine,

We've been looking into Boken, with a logical progression to fire sword martial arts again firstly heavily choreogrpahed then less choreographed, the general consensus was to look at using samuri swords converted to fire, the question was raised about live versus non live blades, and the general consensus was who in the audience would be able to tell if you were using live or dull blades, so why exactly would you want to add the extra hazard of working with something that will detatch body parts.

mark

Well, I think there was a lesson in that for all of us

I think the most salient point I got out of it was that what difference does it make if youre using a dull blade, unless you are actually chopping stuff up?

Josh