F'in word men

not being a word man and i hate most word men(sorry ladies you to are included), espeacailly there ablity to have their worrds looking all proper and what not. envy, a sin, shut up word wo-man.

so i start this thread for all those who have problems with various word phases the english language picked over the years, that make no sense or piss the fuck out of you. my staring phase is "a picture paints a thousands words" it fuckin doesn't (sorry malcom and other veiwers who should be exposed to such 'words'). a picture doesn't paint words, thats why its a picture. some dumb word man (maybe it was a woman) has got us thinking pictures can be turned into words when its just not the case. enough already.

can i also say what a blessing it is to be back in the greatest nation on earth, the home of poi.

Hey Dan. How you doing? I've missed you. I bet Malcolm, Charles and mistress Flash Fire haven't. But I have.

How's the world of foreign treating you?

Still grumpy i notice.....

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C@ntus

If it's any consolation i'm drunk and can barely type. . .

<<<<<hugs>>>>>>>>>

& sprinkly fairy dust to you Itsgottab....

Smiley, smiley, smile...

Just OOC itsgottab, do you have any pictures you've ever shown a friend? Maybe old embarassing baby pictures.. hehe I'm sure your mommy would have a thousand or more words to say about those.

And the phrase is "A picture is worth a thousand words," in case you cared... please clarify this whole "word (wo)man" concept for me? You talking about people who come up with catchy phrases? Or people who have to make a little aphorism out of everything they hear? Cuz I can understand the second type getting a little irritating.

One new word trend that gets under my skin is the use of "a'ight." Perversions of a language make the speaker sound like an embecile.

What does OOC mean?

In the world of role play OOC means Out Of Character, any how Itsgottab whats been goin on??? How's Korea treating you. Must be good because you can affored the alcohol hehe I am broke so my drinking habbets are next to null hehe. Toss one down for me man!!!

thats nice malcom. rozi thankyou for that hug. c@ntus seeing you flatter me with such kind words i'll try a become more regular. ray alot has happened since we talked war for so long. i've even pass though your country for a couple of months and it was surprisingly cool, rated much higher than the mother country mainly due to glorious weather. a word wo-man is someone who who is clever with the words and usually belittle those who don't have such training.

no one has the annoying phase thing a. well i have another 'you can't have your cake and eat it to' whats the point in haveing a f'in cake for then. word men you gotta love'm for their twisted veiw of things

erm... brody.... it's "imbecile"

sorry to kill that nice point.

i like most language weird stuff (case in point) but a'ight does bug me.

"you always find it in the last place you look!"

*Argh*...why would you keep looking after you've found it!

Actually.. you dont keep looking... see coz you found it... in the last place to check, like i did today... where the hell is my phonebook now????

Flat as a tack... most tacks ive seen are slightly dome shape

Dead as a doornail... well its an objects so its neither dead nor alive.... go figure.

arrgghhh why do you like to confuse me *cries* lmao

Fee

Kyrian, what would I do without sweeties like you here to correct me

What does everyone think about American Southern drawl? Think like characters from "King of the Hill," Boomhauer (sp) in particular.

Interesting......

I'd say more, but I'm flat out like a lizard drinking at the moment, so I gotta make like a tree.

Or make like a bird and get the flawk outta here.

quotes, proverbs, sayings are wisdom distilled.
they are a small number of words that summarise a large bounty of understanding.
this wisdom is only useful when applied appropriately.
it incites us to grow by challenging us to reflect on them - an increible asset when and if unlocked.

I do agree that many phrases are contextually sensitive. That being purpose built, they lose all significance when they are applied to an irrelevant topic - or is spoken to a deaf ear.
No-one is holding a gun to your head to grow - it is your freedom to not listen.
But to lash out against this outlet of wisdom is to by extension lashing out at wisdom outright.

Intolerance stifles spiritual, intellectual, and ultimately emotional growth.
Better to ignore something you don't appreciate rather than to disown it.
(This i find to be a major problem with religion - that so few teach tolerance and peace over hatred and spite of other religions. Bhuddist teachings offer:"if a man overcomes fear, he acquires clarity of mind")

many who examine their subconciousness often reveal the fear(of others, of themselves, of failure, of inadequacy), intolerance, vanity(in being correct), dishonesty(in denying their truths) etc buried under their everyday actions.
If you challenge your fear, confront it on a moment to moment basis, the reward with be a waking peace without the deeply hidden, unaddressed turmoil of latent fear, intolerance.

You have nothing to fear from wisdom - it is a confrontation that you forces you to grow with every thought.
with fear diminished, you begin to appreciate the hidden immensity of it's hindrance to your own growth:

quote:

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Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, and faboulous?' Actually, who are not to be? You are a child of God. Yor playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing so enlightening about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are born to make manifest the glory of god which is within us. It is not in just some of us, it is in all of us. And as we let our own light shine, we unconciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fears, our presence automatically liberates others.
-Nelson Mandella

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I used to teach English at a refugee hostel here in Auckland, and have to agree with Itsgottab and Malcolm, some of our sayings are just plain wierd and impossible to figure out.

When teaching conversational english, the first thing I do is identify commonly used sayings and explain to the students that "I'll be there with bells on" doesn't actually mean anyone will be wearing bells.

This prevents a lot of confusion later on.

Although, the use of the word F*CK also fits into these categories, and so I wouldn't use it when complaining about word men...

PS Good to see you again Itsgottab!

Bender, yet again has completely smashed it.
Sorry, for those of you moody 'non-word' people, That means he's totally summed it up for me.

I, like itsgottab, don't consider myself to have the capabilities of some others to play with words as I would like. Do I resent or condemn these people? Far from it.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Languge is an artform. One that not only conveys individuality (personal slang), but also a sense of culture. For example, wordplay such as cockney rhyming slang, is an integral, and I think an important part of Englands linguistical development. It's history. Yes, it is in many ways pointless and can be confusing, but it's fun.
I've studied other languages and have found many examples of such wordplay in each. Old sayings that seem to have no relevance to the topic discussed are part of the countries speech culture. Your example of 'a picture paints a thousand words', I'm sorry, but it's true. And for me, a word, or saying, writes a thousand more. Learning such sayings gives further insight to that cultures traditions, thus, a better understanding of the language itself.
Words are there to play with, why suppress development? What are you afraid of? No-one ever learned anything by refusing information. If you don't understand something, just ask. Atleast that way you won't be confused in the future.

xxx

When I first arrived at an American uni I was at lunch with some Americans when I announced that I ws going outside to "smoke a fag". The look of horror on their faces made me realise they thought I might be going outside to kill someone who's gay! so even without phrases there's enough confusion, even between two English speaking languages!

[ 13 August 2002, 03:28: Message edited by: pyrophile ]

What did the man say? "America and England are two countries separated by a common language." Your story is proof positive.
Wherever 'english' is spoken you will find major deviations and oddities in the language, both written and spoken. (And I'm sure that's true of most languages.) Our lingusitic quirks show an evolution of the language reflecting ourn culture, our society, our fears and our truths.
Although I agree that some of these insights are merely 'distilled wisdom,' as Bender so eloquently put it, some of our phrases make absolutely no sense, and that is irritating. I realize some have unique or forgotten origins, or hidden meanings, but I used to become incensed whenever I heard my teachers or parents remark: "You can't compare apples to oranges." In fact I hear that one on this board a lot. And all I can say is...Oranges are orange and round; apples are red and distictly non-spherical
As far as "a'ight" is concerned, I begrudgingly accept that as another evolutionary step in the language stairway. It's one I myself am going to skip. Another example. Forte, referring to a style or genre used to be pronounced "fort." Not "for-tay." Sometimes common usage will actually change meanings. "Axe is in the dictionary now as 'an inquiry.' May I 'axe' you a question? It was cute, for about an hour, now it's policy.
Remember that language is not sacred and it will change whether you want it to or not. At best you can merely boycott the ones you don't like. A'ight?