Spinning Magazine - would you buy one?

Now everyone is getting off the track here. The first idea was to make a fire magazine, now were talking about making a rave magazine. lol. One problem at a time.

I have just read the whole thread, every single line. While reading it i noticed that we have alot of people with alot of amazing different talents. Not just firetwirling, but also journalism, marketing, ect. So why dont we make a HOP group that can make this magazine. HOP is the biggest fire resource in the world by far. It has tens on thousands of members from all over the world. We have the resources to make this an amazing success.

This magazine idea can be the biggest success since HOP or can just be another crazy idea that just never got off the ground. It all depeneds on who the target audience is. We have already discovered that most of the HOP population dont think it is a good idea, so dont target them. Target the people who dont have the internet but do twirl. Or the people who have seen it done before and want to get into it. I know i know, it will have safety features in it.

It all depends on who the target audience is and how you market it. I would like to think that i am good at marketing/distributing, and would love to help in this way, or any way i could help because i have wanted this idea to come to life ever since i heard about it.

AHHHHH!!!!!! I want this to happen. I want a fire magazine, or a circus magazine. Something we as fire twirlers can be proud of.

Where were you planning to sell the magazine ben and orbit? Coz that could be your biggest mistake. It would be to hard to try to sell the magazine at a newsagency. It would just be another magazine crowded in the vast display of magazines. It would be better to find out about all the gatherings and sell magazines there, and also at the stores(firetwirling stores). i was thinking of talking to 'Off Ya Tree'. The store that many hippys go into. lol. I think that they would be more than interested in the idea if they got a good deal from it.

Well my time is up. I love you all.

Jai.

U cant sell it on the internet if your not aiming it at people who have internet access... xxx

I think the ideas got potetial, but poi spinning could be too limited to fill a whole mag and have enough demand. I, myself am a visual learner, so a magazine on spinning would be more helpful than the often confusing and unclear descriptions on here. If you did make it for beginners then bare in mind you would be compeating with the book, particularly with the excellent micheal Kahn book, and if I had to choose between a magazine with a bit of informatin, or a book with a hell of a lot of information but twice the price than I would get the book.

Bear in mind that most people buy these things on impulse, so you need to market it in places where this will be enabled. ie having it placed on a counter at circus toy shops or maybe on an internet shop that asks you if you would like to buy it at checkout or something.

Good luck, i think your probably going to need it!

you know ade, you are right, you could probebly sell it down at the local newsagency, but to do that you would need to publish tens of thousands of magazines, which would be an extremely expensive thing. i got a quote for 1000 and that was $6.50 a magazine, i mean you work it out. it was a minimum of that by the way. thats alot of money, now times that by 10.

i think that selling it at a newsagency would be a great idea. in the end it would probebly make twice as much money.

luv y'all

Jai.

getting away from the marketing for a minute, just my tuppence on what i'd like to see in a mag:

Lots of lovely juggling and spinny pictures in their own section
juggling/object manipulation (i.e from CJ to hat tricks) tips and tricks
spinning advice and tricks
safety advice
acrobatics advice
rerports on festivals
reviews of the latest equipment
alternative fire toys
articles written by guest spinners
DIY make your own toy section
a section on the alternative scene- concerning drumming or spinning at a rave/ whatever
a humour section with some cartoons/ jokes

in respect of the last section (cartoons/jokes) I did have an idea for a cartoon 'Staffman and PoiBoy', a couple of spinny superheroes who have various (mis)adventures. I can detail it a bit if anyone is interested..

I do keep on going to the newsagent in the hope of finding such a magazine, but all I can find is soft porn, cars and computer mags...

Did you really read everything I wrote? I bet I wrote something about this NOT being a fire magazine OR a juggling magazine...

Spinners in Oz and North America tend to think it's all about Fire, whereas UK spinners think it's all about juggling... with plenty of cross-over people in different places... but it's MORE than all that.

It's not just about the rave scene... just about object manipulation... just about festivals... etc etc.

It's a little bit of all of those things, and a whole lot about what's going on in all these different little communities and what we can all learn from each other.

Jai - you're right about having to fill shelves with copies you're not going to sell...

Right now, my energy is in editing a video that I'm planning to release as a DVD (teaser's coming)... but there seems to be a building wave of interest in the magazine as well.

Yes i did read everything Orbit, but by the time i got to the end of reading it all i couldnt remember all the stuff at the start. lol.

i think that you have some great ideas for the magazine LazyAngel. That cartoon idea sounds really funny.

well i lost the whole point of why i was replying to this. lol. i thought i had a point. ohh well i guess i dont.

love yall anyway.

Did I mention the "poi porn" section? Pictures of the "best" (okay, probably just the coolest looking) home-made poi.

this idea was brought up a while ago and i for 1 still think it should happen. does anyone know whats happning with this, has it happened and failed still in talks or what? lets start a campaing "bring out a fire mag" chanting whilst danceing around a fire

Well i spoke to a few printing places, there is alot of work involved in getting this sort of thing off the ground. You have to decide whether you want black and white, colour, gloss, size of print, ect. ect. ect.

Not only does it take alot of time and effort, it takes alot of money.

Orbit was talking about that video? I still want to buy one. I havnt seen it anywhere.

If anyone is serious about this and has ideas please IM me. Even if it is just to talk alot of non-sense about a magazine that never goes anywhere. I would rather work out that it is too hard than wondering what it couldve been like.

Peace.

Jai.

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just posted the latest incarnation of staffman and poigirl in my gallery. Please bear in mind i'm learning how to draw these figures still, but if you have any serious crits on them, I'd like to hear it!

http://www.homeofpoi.com/gallery/showpho...=500&page=1

Ta!

I wouldn't. I can find everything out in marie claire.

I certainly would if there's a HoP hottie poi-centerfold

for it to stand out in a newsagent putting a good but not too good fire pic on the cover would be good - everyone likes fire - also it would mean it would appeal to adavanced spinners and beginners.

IMHO i think this is a really good idea and i would definitely buy it if (hopefully when) it came out

that kind of magazine would be amazing!!! but than it has to come out around the hole globe!! i would buy it, even it costs around 6€/ 6$ or more. It would be very interessting to discover new technics or new spinning possibillities, like new products who are on the market.
in that magazine it would be very interessting to have:
-comments on different products to buy/use (different poi, different liquids to burn, like who is the best to use etc.)
-comments and interviews of good spinners
-news about meetings of spinninggroubs
-a pagesite for letters of the reader
-nice fire-, circus- etc. -wallpapers
-but also news about juggling, devilstick, staff and other circusstuff
-and maybe nice clothes (like a little fashionpage for spinners)
-a page with 'do & don'ts'of firespinning
-new techiques
-and more!!

such a magazine would be great!!

Well this idea has kinda just fazed into the horizon, but i want to bring it back.

We were actually getting somewhere with it. I am about to have alot of time on my hands and am still interested in this idea. Im going to do something about it. I want to get any like minded people who are really interested in putting the time and effort into this idea to get intouch with me. PM me and we can work something out.

I will not rest until this idea is sorted out, either way!

i haven't been following this thread closely but i am very interested being a part of or starting a poi, staff and juggling magazine. i have experience with graphic design, page layout and typography for anyone interested

I would buy it. And I am certain most of the twirlers I know would also. For sure.

In fact, I think it is such a great idea that I would be prepared to put some cash up to get it off the ground. Someone else mentioned previously that maybe a few investors could be dragged in - do this all properly, ie register as a company, (not a very difficult process at all) and I would gladly be a shareholder.

I think it would be brilliant to see something like this in a newsagent. It would be great having a printed magazine to throw in your bag to read on the bus/train/tube or whatever, you can't do that with all of the wonderful stuff that is available on the net!

Another section I think would be a good idea - photography - tips, hints, maybe have readers send in pics. Photo comps.

I think that in the couple of years since this thread was started, that the international fire community has grown in size so much that it would be a much more viable idea.

Someone please please do it!!