Hybrid Moves

yep, OLOS poi are easy to loop. a bit frustrating at first, cause the short wne wants to unwrap really quickly, but once you're got past that not so bad. however, offsetting your loop would be much trickier to control (as in, both long, but creating an OLOS effect with the position of the tangle)

OK, so there seem to be 3 variations;

1. Olos poi, tangled with the long poi isolated, creating an olos hybrid hyperloop.

2. Bolo poi with an offset tangle, with the long section isolated, creating an olos hybrid hyperloop.

3. Bolo poi, tangled normally, with one of them isolated, creating a bolo hybrid hyperloop.

Number 3 is crazy-hard to do because it releases some tension from the nexus and it all goes floppy.

Ooh, and I suppose there's also...

4. Olos poi with an offset tangle, creating a normal, non-hybrid bolo hyperloop.

That one isn't as tough as I thought it'd be. It's probably easier with non-stretchy cones too, since the main problem I've found with it stems from the long poi being bouncier than the short one.

Right, I should really do some work.

I was talking about #2

hybrid inside atomic weave anyone?

Good idea and it looks crazy!!!
Very funny I'm going to playing it!!!
Thanx Tom!!!

Acciaio

mmm, last night i managed to pull of an antispun bolo hybrid. you sort of have to move your hands in a large triangle, then get them onto the other side of your body quickly. i might get round to making a quick vid... eventually

get on it pete!

im getting there... ish. trying to get this antispun hybrid going a bit better at the moment

is it a fountain like move?

uhm... hold on for maybe 15mins, you shall see

and, utilizing HoPs fancy new feature:


is that self explanatory enough, or should i write some more details?

the flower thing is cool, not sure about the anti-spin yet...

im wondering if antispin hybrids should be butterfly... ?

T

yeh, antispin was giving me a bit of a hassle, wasnt too sure about it but put it on as an idea anyway

hmm, i hadnt even thought about butterfly hybrids yet

Hey pete, I really like the flower thing. Really nice illusion!!

Have been messing myself with trying to pull the hybrid behind my head a lá some kind of staff antispin movement.. hits you on the head lots but feels weird!

To everyone: Been trying the atomic (kinda) weave where you hold your hands together and spin the poi at a ninty degree angle and then pushing them into hybrids.. Kinda make the poi jump in an unnatural way..

Much Hello's!!!!
Rob

Ooh, the flowery thing is lovely. The problem with antispin stuff sems to be that ithe pattern doesn't give you a gap to cross through. Butterfly would probably give you that, but my head will explode if I try to figure put how that'd work. Must do some bloody work. This thread is ruining my degree!

"Hybrid hyperloops"? From the little I've played around with this sort of thing i'm not sure i'd consider it a hybrid either... but then again my hypers aren't up to much.
Is there a difference in the motions/actions/"driving styles" your hands make once the hyperloop has been established?
Does it make your face twitch?

In fact I'd say if you aren't twitching somewhere (or at least while you were learning the move) you're not doing a hybrid!

Also loving your hybrid floweryness mr pineapple


Back to the when's a hybrid not a hybrid question...
...is anytime you open up your spinning by doing an extension/longarm circle considered a hybrid?

Is that the most basic form of hybrid?

no, i think the base definition is when one poi isolates and the other dosnt, so that my moving your hands in paralell time you produce a spit time effect.

T

I am talking about basic as in simplist or easiest, as I would consider the "andy stylee" hybrids among the most difficult I have tried.

If the definition has evolved to any 2 different driving styles what is the most basic/simple "hybrid" possible?

Has the term hybrid become too broad and vague?

thankee ronopotatomus, im quite a fan of the flower too.

in other news.. temporarily abandoned antispin hybrids in search of new flowers

I think [Nx?]'s definition covers it in as simple terms as possible. Simplified any further it wouldn't be a hybrid.

Perhaps this diagram what I made might help.

In each case the 'hands' could be substituted for a nexus. I found olos hybrids easiest to learn, because the extended poi doesn't have to go as fast to keep up with the isolation.

edit: because what I'd written didn't make any sense!