#373676 - 03/11/04 02:40 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
[Re: mcp]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 12/06/03
Loc: Adelaide
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the other way is nang man  english is fuuuuuuunnee ado-p come to london already, or ed when i go up
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#373677 - 03/11/04 02:56 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
[Re: ben-ja-men]
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Flying Water Muppet
Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
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It's well nang. But I'll bet it will look barry when I can do it. 
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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
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#373678 - 03/11/04 03:00 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 12/06/03
Loc: Adelaide
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barry ? what the hell is a barry what does that even mean you deviant you
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#373679 - 03/11/04 03:04 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
[Re: ben-ja-men]
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Flying Water Muppet
Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
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barry is a real word!
I made up nang. Or I possibly subconsicously borrowed it from penny arcade.
Barry means excellent in ned speak.
<goes off to check penny arcade...>
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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
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#373680 - 03/11/04 03:06 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
[Re: mcp]
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Ninjaneer
Registered: 13/05/04
Loc: Galway/Ireland
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GET OUT OF MY THREAD!!!!!!  Ben, Lookin at late January for week long UK trip starting in Ed and anywhere else where people will have me. Flights are 99p. Yay for budget travel.
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#373682 - 03/11/04 03:19 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
[Re: mcp]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 12/06/03
Loc: Adelaide
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dont be so selfish u think that just cos you started it and its got your name on it that its yours huh punk huh HUH!!  well if the stars line up right i may see u then
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#373683 - 03/11/04 03:30 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
[Re: ben-ja-men]
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Flying Water Muppet
Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
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Okay you have it then! I never liked it anyway! 
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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
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#373684 - 03/11/04 04:05 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
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ZORT!
Registered: 09/04/03
Loc: Jo'burg, South Africa
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i hear you mcp! it occurred to me recently that i steve, backspin, and matrix all in the same direction!  although its much easier learning the second time  ado - a handy hint with the half steves which helped me enormously - if you stand straight up for the move - its more likely to backspin off the shoulder rather than wrap around the neck, but if you hunch your neck forwards as it first hits the neck its much easier to wrap around the neck half steve style. cheers!
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#373685 - 03/11/04 04:34 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
[Re: Dentrassi]
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Flying Water Muppet
Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
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I can steve blindfolded in both directions.
That's the kind of thing you learn when you have too much time on your hands.
(and shows that the steve is a true contact move)
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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
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#373686 - 03/11/04 04:55 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
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Ninjaneer
Registered: 13/05/04
Loc: Galway/Ireland
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mcp
dentrassi.
sweet, will try that.

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#373687 - 04/11/04 12:03 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
[Re: ado-p]
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Ninjaneer
Registered: 13/05/04
Loc: Galway/Ireland
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So, went to see the boys and girls at the cork community circus yesterday. kickin myself that i didnt do this 10 months ago. These people are choc full of uber. Staff lessons included: 1 beats, loosens up those wrists good. My first venture into double too....yay for doubles!!! 6 beats (may have to take up yoga for these). Dragon7 I finally understand your staff lockup vid..  combos. a shotgun wrist turn cut in half with a one beat. its still two beats but looks completly different from a figure of 8. apparently there is a seventh beat? Anybody? Same hand catch behind back from halo roll. I'm thinking its possible to dot his whole move behind the back with arms entering and catching on opposite sides. ? Staff isolations (very hard, very cool), isolating the flame, not the center. had a bit more luck with fish tails. dropping my hand down a little seems to help. steve seems to have left me for the moment (dont you hate that). though Dentrassi, your advice has helped alot. When i lean a little the staff is in contact with more of my body so i can feel where it is much better and even give a nidge in the right direction with a little shoulder shimmy. My first shimmy eh... is this the road to contact? Yay!!! 
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#373688 - 05/11/04 12:59 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
[Re: ado-p]
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Ninjaneer
Registered: 13/05/04
Loc: Galway/Ireland
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ok you crazy kids, need some help here.
i've tried everything and i cant get this thing to spin.
back of neck roll (turn body 180) to halo roll (pivot?) I though i was doin it but the staff is not actually rotating on my back at all. its just fallin over really. an it don look so good.
mcp: cant find this in your uber book.
so how does it work?
seems like the shoulder had to push up to get the staff to rotate more. dunno, tis not happinin
oh and a jesus? (front halo part) do you need boobs to do this or what? its keeps falling down, coz of gravity like....
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#373690 - 05/11/04 01:17 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
[Re: Dr_Molly]
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Flying Water Muppet
Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
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Yeah I need some clarification too... Obviously you're doing a vertical neck wrap of some kind... Are you doing a vertical neck wrap where you bend your neck down in front of you wrap the staff over it, turn your back into it and do a halo, then turn more and come out on your elbows? Can that would be a pivot with a neck wrap entrance... Jesus is not hindered by bosoms, but it's not exactly helped either... You go into a jesus, wheelplane, under the opposite arm and the staff wraps that arm/shoulder, one end attempts to fall down inbetween your arms, then the rotation of the staff forces it to wrap the other arm. But I would recommend moderation in all things. You've only just started... learn some flo with the moves you've got, clean them up a bit. (Cleanliness is next to Godliness...) come back to the hard combo moves later and you'll find you understand them more and get them quicker... 
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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
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#373691 - 05/11/04 01:17 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
[Re: Dr_Molly]
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Ninjaneer
Registered: 13/05/04
Loc: Galway/Ireland
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insert 'vertical neck wrap' where i was talkin nonsense above.
i was thinkin that boobage would give the stick something to roll on. could be that im not leaning back enough though.
*looks around for padded bra*
*realises he's in work and will probably get sacked and arrested if it goes any further*
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#373692 - 05/11/04 01:18 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
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enthusiast
Registered: 24/02/04
Loc: Edinburgh, UK
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To quote the cat over here, Written by: bluecat
i think the jesus is hard if you've bosoms miss bam. (omg, the implications in that sentence! )
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#373693 - 05/11/04 01:22 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
[Re: mo-seph]
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Ninjaneer
Registered: 13/05/04
Loc: Galway/Ireland
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youse is right mis mcp, about the moderation like
im not really worried about jesus for now. I've been trying to work out that pivot with neck wrap entrance, exactly as you described above, for about four months now though.
tis driven me 'craaaazzzzzzy' *sang in band boy voice
thankin you moseph, i leave off with the bra then 
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#373695 - 05/11/04 01:54 AM
Re: Elbow, Arm, Arm Elbow Roll
[Re: Dr_Molly]
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Flying Water Muppet
Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
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Bluecat with boobs? To quote eminem: Yuck!
Well the tips I can give you for the pivot are: Obviously coming out of a neck wrap the stick is going to be right on your neck, make sure it stays there, as you don't want it wandering around your shoulder. Halo rolls take place on the back of your neck. This is where the staff must be for a pivot. Not messing around on your shoulder.
Turn on the spot. Stepping backwards into the staff is what I did for a while and not only is it plane breaking, it's going to puch the staff away from you and generally result in fallage of staff or hurtage of you. Turn on the spot and turn FAST... (depending how fast the stick is going) The stick needs some momentum for this trick to work...
I think the window cleaners are here. I'm glad the blind is down so they can't see my red nose.
The timing has to be good. Try doing the horizontal version continuously to get the timing. Try doing it from elbow wraps (making sure to place the staff right on your neck) this may be easier. (or it may give you a fresh perspective.)
hope that helps...
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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
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